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True. Thats pretty much what I meant by...oh wait, I didn't even write all that. I meant to say that bands have also learned more about their own internal politics; and how to co exist.
But - again I wonder if that all really makes good art. too much neatness in place just isn't good for good rockn roll. Take that embarassing film Metallica did. I mean that film is as much a farce as Spinal Tap is. Or Aerosmith. All the ways to do the right thing wrong..Back to Brian though - I do believe that the Stones and Brian had reached the point of no return. They needed to split up.
What would Brian have become? Someone in the vein of John Cale? Or more like Stevie Priest? LOL
I thought, it was one of Allen Klein's henchman, so as avoid a £100k payout?
Only joking, of course.
From what I remember of the pretty awful Stoned movie,life at no 1 was depicted as one long party. Brian pretty much out of it...and lots of hangers on having a great time. A bit of S and M also.
How disgusting!
"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"
I 2nd this question
It`s nice to be here, .....
Looks like Brian already had a flat-screen in '1968. Always ahead of the times.
This is a really good point. In an interview a few years back, Bill mentioned that people have tended to exaggerate Brian's qualities, good and bad, and that, "He was just a guy." I've mentioned this before, but that comment really put things in perspective in a certain way. It was jarring to realize that there are so few people around who actually knew him.
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Re: Brian Jones: No.1 Courtfield Road, SW7 - Photos, footage and words
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Date: March 3, 2019 18:07
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His Majesty
Nah. I drive a Picanto.
This beauty was parked near our hotel in Earls Court last time I was there. Seemed a very apt thing to see on the way to Courtfield Road.
Re: Brian Jones: No.1 Courtfield Road, SW7 - Photos, footage and words
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Palace Revolution 2000
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Date: March 3, 2019 18:32
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Like Mick has said, and many know - much was still unchartered territory.
Sure. But, following bad advice, Brian intentionally distanced himself. I think that's a different thing to dealing with addiction etc.
He put himself on the outside rather than keeping close. Creating oddities on top of the other developing problems.
True. Thats pretty much what I meant by...oh wait, I didn't even write all that. I meant to say that bands have also learned more about their own internal politics; and how to co exist.
But - again I wonder if that all really makes good art. too much neatness in place just isn't good for good rockn roll. Take that embarassing film Metallica did. I mean that film is as much a farce as Spinal Tap is. Or Aerosmith. All the ways to do the right thing wrong..Back to Brian though - I do believe that the Stones and Brian had reached the point of no return. They needed to split up.
What would Brian have become? Someone in the vein of John Cale? Or more like Stevie Priest? LOL
Re: Brian Jones: No.1 Courtfield Road, SW7 - Photos, footage and words
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Date: March 3, 2019 18:58
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Re: Brian Jones: No.1 Courtfield Road, SW7 - Photos, footage and words
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Date: March 3, 2019 20:34
It would have saved his life because the workmen who did him in worked at Redlands at that time. Keith knew all of them.
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Date: March 3, 2019 20:42
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Re: Brian Jones: No.1 Courtfield Road, SW7 - Photos, footage and words
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Date: March 3, 2019 20:52
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paulspendel
... the workmen who did him in...
Allegedly.
I thought, it was one of Allen Klein's henchman, so as avoid a £100k payout?
Only joking, of course.
From what I remember of the pretty awful Stoned movie,life at no 1 was depicted as one long party. Brian pretty much out of it...and lots of hangers on having a great time. A bit of S and M also.
How disgusting!
Re: Brian Jones: No.1 Courtfield Road, SW7 - Photos, footage and words
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paulspendel
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Date: March 3, 2019 20:54
Ofcourse we can have a different opinion on this. No problem. But the stories the remaining workmen told me speak volumes. And Hotchner was spot on with his witness Marty. Keylock had to call his brother Frank Keylock, a Scotland Yard CID officer to sort out the mess. Frank called his London boss Wally Virgo, Virgo pulled rank on Thomas Williams, the head of Sussex Police and Williams pulled rank on DCI Marshall. All in a three hour time frame.
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Date: March 3, 2019 21:00
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Re: Brian Jones: No.1 Courtfield Road, SW7 - Photos, footage and words
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paulspendel
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Date: March 3, 2019 21:09
Your observation is right. Last week I got hold of Nicky Kremer. He could tell great stories about the 1967 Courtfield Road scene but doesn’t want to be interviewed.
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Date: March 4, 2019 02:14
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Re: Brian Jones: No.1 Courtfield Road, SW7 - Photos, footage and words
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paulspendel
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Date: March 4, 2019 10:50
That would be so great to explore.
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Date: March 4, 2019 12:53
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Re: Brian Jones: No.1 Courtfield Road, SW7 - Photos, footage and words
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Deltics
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Date: March 4, 2019 13:11
"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"
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Date: March 4, 2019 16:47
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Re: Brian Jones: No.1 Courtfield Road, SW7 - Photos, footage and words
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jlowe
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Date: March 4, 2019 16:52
Yes Brian most certainly had his foot on the 'pleasure pedal'.
And 'the punishment centre' according to some of the more lurid biographies.
And 'the punishment centre' according to some of the more lurid biographies.
Re: Brian Jones: No.1 Courtfield Road, SW7 - Photos, footage and words
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Date: March 10, 2019 14:20
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Date: March 10, 2019 15:18
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Re: Brian Jones: No.1 Courtfield Road, SW7 - Photos, footage and words
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Date: March 10, 2019 15:41
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Re: Brian Jones: No.1 Courtfield Road, SW7 - Photos, footage and words
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Date: May 17, 2019 20:01
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We filmed Stash in Italy for the upcoming Brian Jones documentary. A true friend of Brian.
Aah...any more information about the film, Paul?
I 2nd this question
Re: Brian Jones: No.1 Courtfield Road, SW7 - Photos, footage and words
Posted by:
lem motlow
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Date: May 18, 2019 09:10
If the sixties were in the Age of Aquarius we must now be in the Age of Sanctimonious.
Clenched teeth on the left and right looking for the devil behind every door ,rewriting history along the way.
Brian Jones was an entertainer by profession,pictures of him dressed in a Nazi uniform were there to provoke a reaction,outage,shock etc.
I’m gonna go out on a limb here and guess a guitar player for The Rolling Stones wasn’t up for committing crimes against humanity.
Brian was awesome,not only the founder of The Rolling Stones but the one who named the band,hustled to get them their first gigs and when they became famous was the focal point for the fans,especially the young women.
A fact Mick and Keith have spent decades downplaying.
Brian had his flaws but when you dig deeper,who were all these women he beat up?
he got physical with Anita,(the same Anita who Keith Richards punched in the face in the back of a limo when she attempted to claw his eyes out.)but was it a pattern?just asking.
This is a guy whose whole life was 27 damn years.never a chance to age and reflect,never a chance to make amends or apologize.
And yet he’s judged as someone who lived a full life but his accomplishments have been diminished and his shortcomings have been highlighted for 50 years.
Think about it, Brian was the first person Keith Richards ever saw play slide guitar in person.
RIP Brian,one of the baddest mthrfckrs ever.
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Clenched teeth on the left and right looking for the devil behind every door ,rewriting history along the way.
Brian Jones was an entertainer by profession,pictures of him dressed in a Nazi uniform were there to provoke a reaction,outage,shock etc.
I’m gonna go out on a limb here and guess a guitar player for The Rolling Stones wasn’t up for committing crimes against humanity.
Brian was awesome,not only the founder of The Rolling Stones but the one who named the band,hustled to get them their first gigs and when they became famous was the focal point for the fans,especially the young women.
A fact Mick and Keith have spent decades downplaying.
Brian had his flaws but when you dig deeper,who were all these women he beat up?
he got physical with Anita,(the same Anita who Keith Richards punched in the face in the back of a limo when she attempted to claw his eyes out.)but was it a pattern?just asking.
This is a guy whose whole life was 27 damn years.never a chance to age and reflect,never a chance to make amends or apologize.
And yet he’s judged as someone who lived a full life but his accomplishments have been diminished and his shortcomings have been highlighted for 50 years.
Think about it, Brian was the first person Keith Richards ever saw play slide guitar in person.
RIP Brian,one of the baddest mthrfckrs ever.
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Re: Brian Jones: No.1 Courtfield Road, SW7 - Photos, footage and words
Posted by:
witterings
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Date: May 18, 2019 12:50
It`s nice to be here, .....
Re: Brian Jones: No.1 Courtfield Road, SW7 - Photos, footage and words
Posted by:
paulspendel
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Date: May 18, 2019 13:16
I could not agree more.
Re: Brian Jones: No.1 Courtfield Road, SW7 - Photos, footage and words
Posted by:
Palace Revolution 2000
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Date: May 18, 2019 17:39
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Deltics
Looks like Brian already had a flat-screen in '1968. Always ahead of the times.
Re: Brian Jones: No.1 Courtfield Road, SW7 - Photos, footage and words
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His Majesty
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Date: May 18, 2019 20:29
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Re: Brian Jones: No.1 Courtfield Road, SW7 - Photos, footage and words
Posted by:
hopkins
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Date: May 18, 2019 21:22
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lem motlow
If the sixties were in the Age of Aquarius we must now be in the Age of Sanctimonious.
Clenched teeth on the left and right looking for the devil behind every door ,rewriting history along the way.
Brian Jones was an entertainer by profession,pictures of him dressed in a Nazi uniform were there to provoke a reaction,outage,shock etc.
I’m gonna go out on a limb here and guess a guitar player for The Rolling Stones wasn’t up for committing crimes against humanity.
Brian was awesome,not only the founder of The Rolling Stones but the one who named the band,hustled to get them their first gigs and when they became famous was the focal point for the fans,especially the young women.
A fact Mick and Keith have spent decades downplaying.
Brian had his flaws but when you dig deeper,who were all these women he beat up?
he got physical with Anita,(the same Anita who Keith Richards punched in the face in the back of a limo when she attempted to claw his eyes out.)but was it a pattern?just asking.
This is a guy whose whole life was 27 damn years.never a chance to age and reflect,never a chance to make amends or apologize.
And yet he’s judged as someone who lived a full life but his accomplishments have been diminished and his shortcomings have been highlighted for 50 years.
Think about it, Brian was the first person Keith Richards ever saw play slide guitar in person.
RIP Brian,one of the baddest mthrfckrs ever.
Re: Brian Jones: No.1 Courtfield Road, SW7 - Photos, footage and words
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hopkins
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Date: May 18, 2019 21:24
Re: Brian Jones: No.1 Courtfield Road, SW7 - Photos, footage and words
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Date: June 7, 2019 23:50
Re: Brian Jones: No.1 Courtfield Road, SW7 - Photos, footage and words
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His Majesty
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Date: June 21, 2019 15:53
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Re: Brian Jones: No.1 Courtfield Road, SW7 - Photos, footage and words
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blivet
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Date: June 21, 2019 17:13
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lem motlow
This is a guy whose whole life was 27 damn years.never a chance to age and reflect,never a chance to make amends or apologize.
And yet he’s judged as someone who lived a full life but his accomplishments have been diminished and his shortcomings have been highlighted for 50 years.
This is a really good point. In an interview a few years back, Bill mentioned that people have tended to exaggerate Brian's qualities, good and bad, and that, "He was just a guy." I've mentioned this before, but that comment really put things in perspective in a certain way. It was jarring to realize that there are so few people around who actually knew him.
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His Majesty
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Date: June 21, 2019 17:39
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