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Mick, Keith and Bill talk Grammys - 1985 footage
Posted by: snorton ()
Date: February 6, 2019 07:04

[youtu.be]

Bill provides the most rational commentary.

And here is the presentation.

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2019-02-08 02:29 by snorton.

Re: Mick, Keith and Bill talk Grammys - 1985 footage
Posted by: gotdablouse ()
Date: February 6, 2019 08:28

Thanks, would be 1986 though. I was a bit shocked to find out recently that according to Rocky Dijon CBS had "bought" this award for the Stones!

Re: Mick, Keith and Bill talk Grammys - 1985 footage
Posted by: jlowe ()
Date: February 6, 2019 12:52

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snorton
[youtu.be]

Bill provides the most rational commentary.

Probably because he was the only one who hadn't been drinking and drugging.

Re: Mick, Keith and Bill talk Grammys - 1985 footage
Posted by: runrudolph ()
Date: February 6, 2019 18:39

Haha the old men in 1986...guess they must be..
Jeroen

Re: Mick, Keith and Bill talk Grammys - 1985 footage
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: February 6, 2019 19:38

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gotdablouse
Thanks, would be 1986 though. I was a bit shocked to find out recently that according to Rocky Dijon CBS had "bought" this award for the Stones!

They might have won it eventually on their own merits, but maybe not.
Makes you wonder about the Blue and Lonesome grammy, though that was an untelevised minor category.
Can't trust those awards shows - everything is rigged!

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"Rip this joint, gonna save your soul..."

Re: Mick, Keith and Bill talk Grammys - 1985 footage
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: February 6, 2019 19:50

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jlowe

Probably because he was the only one who hadn't been drinking and drugging.

Bill had a different kind of vice. eye popping smiley

"What I really want is a 14 year old." - Bill Wyman, 1964.

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Re: Mick, Keith and Bill talk Grammys - 1985 footage
Date: February 6, 2019 23:13

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His Majesty
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jlowe

Probably because he was the only one who hadn't been drinking and drugging.

Bill had a different kind of vice. eye popping smiley

"What I really want is a 14 year old." - Bill Wyman, 1964.

Nostradamus would be jealous. spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

Re: Mick, Keith and Bill talk Grammys - 1985 footage
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: February 6, 2019 23:25

Commander, tongue and cheek, keeping the distance. Bill, like a chartered accountant. Keith, not listening to Bill, arms all over, chortling. Business as usual.
Tour hair on. Why does US news anchor always have helmet hairdos? Are they all bald and put on those helmets in the morning?

Re: Mick, Keith and Bill talk Grammys - 1985 footage
Posted by: jlowe ()
Date: February 7, 2019 00:30

KEITH : 'Young bands these days think to have all the group in the studio together is a revolutionary idea'.

That was mid 1980s Keith talking. I guess he eventually changed his mind on that one.

MICK: 'Theres nothing new, it's all been done before...so we just offer the same thing as before and hope they like it'

That's the Businessman taking not a creative musician/writer. Look at the cv's of David Bowie, Paul Simon and many others to see that you don't have to stand still, creativily speaking.

Re: Mick, Keith and Bill talk Grammys - 1985 footage
Posted by: keefriff99 ()
Date: February 7, 2019 01:08

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Stoneage
Commander, tongue and cheek, keeping the distance. Bill, like a chartered accountant. Keith, not listening to Bill, arms all over, chortling. Business as usual.
Tour hair on. Why does US news anchor always have helmet hairdos? Are they all bald and put on those helmets in the morning?
The '80s news anchor helmet hair is a hilarious look.

Re: Mick, Keith and Bill talk Grammys - 1985 footage
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: February 7, 2019 02:25

I think they should get an award simply for standing up there live so long. I lost interest in their stage act 20 years ago, but it's still pretty amazing. 57 years live. I'm not sure who's beaten it, even Duke Ellington at this point, though I'm sure he did a higher number of gigs.

Re: Mick, Keith and Bill talk Grammys - 1985 footage
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: February 7, 2019 03:52



Ya should see the bunch of goody - goody's we
gotta wake up to down here …. Great if ya wanna hear dopey Deb Knight
or Georgie Gardner talkin' shit about baby-powder or Celine Dion fave handbag..... YAWN....

Honestly ya'd have more fun readin the Weekly Times in a Terang coffee-shop....hhhaaa

ROCKMAN

Re: Mick, Keith and Bill talk Grammys - 1985 footage
Posted by: hopkins ()
Date: February 7, 2019 04:01

yep i agree w that bit w k and b talkin' that
maybe they'd get a 2nd Lifetime Achievemnt Award.
been 33 years. they were promoting dw. charlie wasn't there. hmmm.

let's go Grammy committe!

Re: Mick, Keith and Bill talk Grammys - 1985 footage
Posted by: CaptainCorella ()
Date: February 7, 2019 05:09

Quote
His Majesty

"What I really want is a 14 year old." - Bill Wyman, 1964.

You present that as an actual quote.

Can you provide a source for it please?

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50+ Years a Fan

Re: Mick, Keith and Bill talk Grammys - 1985 footage
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: February 7, 2019 11:38

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CaptainCorella
Quote
His Majesty

"What I really want is a 14 year old." - Bill Wyman, 1965.

You present that as an actual quote.

Can you provide a source for it please?

It is an actual quote, but I didn't keep the article it was in.

I think it was from their first trip to Australia, so from 1965 rather than 64.

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Re: Mick, Keith and Bill talk Grammys - 1985 footage
Posted by: CaptainCorella ()
Date: February 7, 2019 12:00

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His Majesty
Quote
CaptainCorella
Quote
His Majesty

"What I really want is a 14 year old." - Bill Wyman, 1965.

You present that as an actual quote.

Can you provide a source for it please?

It is an actual quote, but I didn't keep the article it was in.

I think it was from their first trip to Australia, so from 1965 rather than 64.

In view of the nature of the alleged quote, you'll need to do a lot better than that.

Obviously if anyone else can source this quote, that'd help a great deal.

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50+ Years a Fan



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2019-02-07 12:01 by CaptainCorella.

Re: Mick, Keith and Bill talk Grammys - 1985 footage
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: February 7, 2019 12:04

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CaptainCorella

In view of the nature of the alleged quote, you'll need to do a lot better than that.

Eh, no I don't.

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The Brian Jones Resource

Re: Mick, Keith and Bill talk Grammys - 1985 footage
Posted by: matxil ()
Date: February 7, 2019 12:04

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snorton
[youtu.be]

Bill provides the most rational commentary.

Actually, I think it's the first time I have seen Bill and Keith in the same interview (at least post early 60s). In some ways, they really are the most different persons in the band, it's kind of nice to see them together.

Re: Mick, Keith and Bill talk Grammys - 1985 footage
Posted by: CaptainCorella ()
Date: February 7, 2019 12:34

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His Majesty
Quote
CaptainCorella

In view of the nature of the alleged quote, you'll need to do a lot better than that.

Eh, no I don't.

I'll take that as agreeing that it was an invention.

If it was real, it's IMPOSSIBLE for it not to have been widely reported at the time (after all Jerry Lee had been thrown out of the UK for less), and it would have been reported when the Mandy Smith scandal was at its height, and it would have been reported when the Rolf Harris (etc) scandals were being revealed.

The vile gutter press have been stalking Bill for years, and if this wasw real we'd never have heard the end of it. And they are more vile than you could believe - I've seen them in action and heard utterly dreadful tales of what they do.

If you search online for the phrase, the only hit you get is this thread! Duh!

I'll take it all back and apologise if you, or anyone, can source it.

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Captain Corella
50+ Years a Fan

Re: Mick, Keith and Bill talk Grammys - 1985 footage
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: February 7, 2019 12:39

It's real alright, so no, not an agreement it was an invention. I think it was an article posted in Nico Zentgraf's facebook group.

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Re: Mick, Keith and Bill talk Grammys - 1985 footage
Posted by: CaptainCorella ()
Date: February 7, 2019 13:50

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His Majesty
It's real alright, so no, not an agreement it was an invention. I think it was an article posted in Nico Zentgraf's facebook group.

Change of story. Previously you wrote - exact quote here from your posting - "It is an actual quote, but I didn't keep the article it was in" and now you attribute it to Facebook.

Fine. Post a link to it.

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Captain Corella
50+ Years a Fan

Re: Mick, Keith and Bill talk Grammys - 1985 footage
Posted by: Rocky Dijon ()
Date: February 7, 2019 14:37

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gotdablouse
I was a bit shocked to find out recently that according to Rocky Dijon CBS had "bought" this award for the Stones!

That's standard practice. Late in life when (usually unwilling) retired screenwriters or directors suddenly have liftime achievement awards heaped upon them (especially veterans who previously never received few if any nominations), it is the hard work of an agent or publicist on their client's behalf. They can't get them work so they get them accolades.

Record labels likewise lobby hard for recognition for artists on their roster. Did the Stones deserve a Lifetime Achievement after no wins, few nominations, and in the same year the Foundation recognized Segovia and Benny Goodman? Did "Just Another Night" deserve its Grammy nomination? What about "Old Habits Die Hard" winning a Golden Globe dspite the commercial failure of ALFIE in theaters and as a soundtrack album? There is a valid point to be made that as the committe became younger, they were more accepting of rock artists. Remember Jethro Tull winning the heavy metal Grammy? Does this seem like something that was recognized by the committee or was recognition done as a favor to their label but because they weren't top tier artists no one paid attention to the category until it was an industry joke?

Re: Mick, Keith and Bill talk Grammys - 1985 footage
Posted by: frankotero ()
Date: February 7, 2019 17:32

Bill was right when he said they're just getting into second gear. How could he have known the future, haha.

Re: Mick, Keith and Bill talk Grammys - 1985 footage
Posted by: jlowe ()
Date: February 7, 2019 23:48

Quote
CaptainCorella
Quote
His Majesty

"What I really want is a 14 year old." - Bill Wyman, 1964.

You present that as an actual quote.

Can you provide a source for it please?

14 year old metal detector, maybe?

Re: Mick, Keith and Bill talk Grammys - 1985 footage
Posted by: snorton ()
Date: February 8, 2019 01:55

This appears to be the segment of the remote award presentation, given by Clapton.
It's titled 2013, which is incorrect.

[www.youtube.com]



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Re: Mick, Keith and Bill talk Grammys - 1985 footage
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: February 8, 2019 11:20

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CaptainCorella

Change of story. Previously you wrote - exact quote here from your posting - "It is an actual quote, but I didn't keep the article it was in" and now you attribute it to Facebook.

Fine. Post a link to it.

Jeebus, are you being intentionally stupid?

An article possibly posted in a facebook group dedicated to old stones stuff. You have to be a member to view the posts.

Where it was posted I can't recall with certainty. That an article featured Bill saying such a thing is for sure.

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The Brian Jones Resource



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Re: Mick, Keith and Bill talk Grammys - 1985 footage
Posted by: mtaylor ()
Date: February 8, 2019 11:47

Quote
snorton
This appears to be the segment of the remote award presentation, given by Clapton.
It's titled 2013, which is incorrect.

[www.youtube.com]

Charlie high on something :-) in 1986

Re: Mick, Keith and Bill talk Grammys - 1985 footage
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: February 8, 2019 11:56

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mtaylor
Charlie high on something :-) in 1986

You're right. He's completely out of it. A disgrace really. Never seen anything like this. And - why accept awards if you don't want them? I'm sure there are people who would have been grateful for it.

Re: Mick, Keith and Bill talk Grammys - 1985 footage
Posted by: runrudolph ()
Date: February 8, 2019 12:09

yeah, Mick Taylor n Ian did not get mentioned. disgraceful and respectless indeed.
jeroen

Re: Mick, Keith and Bill talk Grammys - 1985 footage
Posted by: CaptainCorella ()
Date: February 8, 2019 12:34

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His Majesty
Quote
CaptainCorella

Change of story. Previously you wrote - exact quote here from your posting - "It is an actual quote, but I didn't keep the article it was in" and now you attribute it to Facebook.

Fine. Post a link to it.

Jeebus, are you being intentionally stupid?

An article possibly posted in a facebook group dedicated to old stones stuff. You have to be a member to view the posts.

Where it was posted I can't recall with certainty. That an article featured Bill saying such a thing is for sure.

Not at all. I'm being thorough.

You wrote something, presenting it as an actual quote. Quite a serious alleged remark by Bill Wyman. And I reckon that it's worth finding out its source.

After being pressed you changed your account of it's origin, and now you attempt to pass it off as "possibly" and cite an exclusive group on Facebook. And that you can't recall with certainty.

In the real world it's generally considered to be a rather bad idea to make a potentially egregiously offensive remark about someone, and not be able to substantiate it. You can't. And that's deeply regrettable.

So, until you (or someone else of course) can substantiate what you alleged Bill Wyman said, it has to be considered as unproved.

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Captain Corella
50+ Years a Fan

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