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I believe during the '81 tour Keith almost kicked Ronnie out of the band due to his use of freebase...
I believed that was only a rumour (and it was Mick, not Keith).
However, Keith supposedly pulled a gun on Ronnie, because of his freebasing
Yes!
I guess it depends on who you choose to believe.
Keith: (W)e're at the Fairmont Hotel, which looks a bit like Buckingham Palace, with an east wing and a west wing. I was in one wing and Ronnie was in the other. And I heard there was a big freebase party going on in Ronnie's room. He was being irresponsible to the max. He had promised me he wouldn't be doing that shit on the road. The red curtain came down. So I went downstairs, marched through the central lobby of the Fairmont. Patti was saying, don't go mad, don't do it.... I got there, he opened the door and I just socked him. You @#$%&, boom. So he fell backwards over the couch and the rest of my punch carried me over on top of him, the couch fell over and we both nearly fell out the window. We scared ourselves to death... After that I don't really remember much. I'd made my point.
Ron: I was missing one day and Keith met my old lady and she was crying, and she had a go about me to Keith. He said, That bastard! He thought I was fooling around with other women because I was missing, and he also thought I'd gone over to these really shady people's place to do drugs. So he got this posse, a search party, and they're all tearing down the corridor and finally found me in a friend's room on another floor. I'd just had an argument with the old lady, and went and sat with this old friend for a few hours. I hear this posse coming down the corridor, Keith walks in and smashes a bottle and comes at me and I did a quick serve on him and elbowed him in the gut (laughs). Then there was a fist in the genitals, and fist in the face, and he nearly went out the window, actually. I was equally livid 'cause they'd got it all wrong! So it was just one of those misunderstandings on the tour where everything gets blown out of proportion for a bit. So he was dragged off and we were yelling obscenities at each other, and then a couple of hours later we were back to normal.
[timeisonourside.com]
That's in San Francisco! And that would explain why the 1981 tour shows that took place in that city are so bland and boring!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2019-04-04 21:33 by dcba.
I only recently listened to Ivan's solo album "My ancestors.." - Excellent album.
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Ivan Neville on sobriety and the Stones guest spot that wasn't
Posted by:
bye bye johnny
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Date: November 10, 2018 23:39
Balancing music, sobriety: How Ivan Neville, Anders Osborne got sober and now help others
BY KEITH SPERA | Nov 7, 2018
Harold Owens, left, who for the past 20 years has worked with the Grammy organization's MusiCares to help musicians get sober, with Ivan Neville, center, and Anders Osborne, at the Uptown rehab center Imagine Recovery on Tuesday, November 6, 2018.
Owens assisted both Neville and Osborne in their journeys to sobriety.
[www.theadvocate.com]
BY KEITH SPERA | Nov 7, 2018
Harold Owens, left, who for the past 20 years has worked with the Grammy organization's MusiCares to help musicians get sober, with Ivan Neville, center, and Anders Osborne, at the Uptown rehab center Imagine Recovery on Tuesday, November 6, 2018.
Owens assisted both Neville and Osborne in their journeys to sobriety.
[www.theadvocate.com]
Re: Ivan Neville on sobriety and the Stones guest spot that wasn't
Posted by:
gotdablouse
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Date: November 11, 2018 03:01
Thanks for the link. A...sobering story ! I didn't know Ivan Neville was considered for a larger role within the Stones in 1994, I mean they'd done all the rehearsing without him ? Did Keith have doubts about Ol' Chuck even before he claimed he was the Stone's musical director and got uninvited for the B2B sessions ? ;-)
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Re: Ivan Neville on sobriety and the Stones guest spot that wasn't
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
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Date: November 11, 2018 08:50
I used to know Rueben Williams. Good dude.
Anders... I saw Anders at Tips, eons ago. He didn't seem to be out of it... but I was used to being with people that were out of it. I never did drugs, would drink quite a few beers, and the people I've been around over the years have done drugs but were, ha ha, normal. More recreational than every day.
Ivan Neville making Keith feel strange... that says something.
Anders... I saw Anders at Tips, eons ago. He didn't seem to be out of it... but I was used to being with people that were out of it. I never did drugs, would drink quite a few beers, and the people I've been around over the years have done drugs but were, ha ha, normal. More recreational than every day.
Ivan Neville making Keith feel strange... that says something.
Re: Ivan Neville on sobriety and the Stones guest spot that wasn't
Posted by:
CousinC
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Date: November 11, 2018 14:09
It's a long and winding road . .
Re: Ivan Neville on sobriety and the Stones guest spot that wasn't
Posted by:
jlowe
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Date: November 12, 2018 20:09
Keith to Neville: "What's wrong with you. Get it together"
You just wonder if anyone said that to Keith...and if so what response they got.
You just wonder if anyone said that to Keith...and if so what response they got.
Re: Ivan Neville on sobriety and the Stones guest spot that wasn't
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: November 12, 2018 20:43
Keith always hated crack..
Re: Ivan Neville on sobriety and the Stones guest spot that wasn't
Posted by:
Hairball
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Date: November 13, 2018 01:37
Ronnie was known to be a heavy freebase user (a more glamorous term for crackhead)- wonder if Keith ever said anything to him...
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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Re: Ivan Neville on sobriety and the Stones guest spot that wasn't
Posted by:
erad
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Date: November 13, 2018 01:51
Quote
Hairball
Ronnie was known to be a heavy freebase user (a more glamorous term for crackhead)- wonder if Keith ever said anything to him...
I believe during the '81 tour Keith almost kicked Ronnie out of the band due to his use of freebase...
Re: Ivan Neville on sobriety and the Stones guest spot that wasn't
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: November 13, 2018 10:56
Quote
eradQuote
Hairball
Ronnie was known to be a heavy freebase user (a more glamorous term for crackhead)- wonder if Keith ever said anything to him...
I believe during the '81 tour Keith almost kicked Ronnie out of the band due to his use of freebase...
I believed that was only a rumour (and it was Mick, not Keith).
However, Keith supposedly pulled a gun on Ronnie, because of his freebasing
Re: Ivan Neville on sobriety and the Stones guest spot that wasn't
Posted by:
hopkins
()
Date: November 13, 2018 12:53
yep them the rules
guns for freebasing
the blade for smack
that's just the way it is with outlaws.
there's a code you see
i mean, knowing the ronster so closely, as I do, i'm just sures he
was gonna pass the pipe right over to k, but you know...
that boy is alittle spoiled since that movie star thing...
he walks in front of micks dressing room with his fly open
dramatically reading the box office from HOllywood Reporter,
"Oh did Johnny call me? I need another 3 million dollars for
an afternoon's work in that HIT arggggghhhhh oh hi mick i didn't
see your door open.
guns for freebasing
the blade for smack
that's just the way it is with outlaws.
there's a code you see
i mean, knowing the ronster so closely, as I do, i'm just sures he
was gonna pass the pipe right over to k, but you know...
that boy is alittle spoiled since that movie star thing...
he walks in front of micks dressing room with his fly open
dramatically reading the box office from HOllywood Reporter,
"Oh did Johnny call me? I need another 3 million dollars for
an afternoon's work in that HIT arggggghhhhh oh hi mick i didn't
see your door open.
Re: Ivan Neville on sobriety and the Stones guest spot that wasn't
Posted by:
Kurt
()
Date: November 13, 2018 12:56
Great read...thank you for posting.
Sobriety rocks.
Sobriety rocks.
Re: Ivan Neville on sobriety and the Stones guest spot that wasn't
Posted by:
Palace Revolution 2000
()
Date: November 13, 2018 13:08
I didn't know the extent of Ivan Neville's addiction. I always was convinced when I saw him w/ the Winos that he was on another planet, but then so did Charlie Drayton and Babi look like it.
I know Harold Owens, and he is everything the article says he is.
I know Harold Owens, and he is everything the article says he is.
Re: Ivan Neville on sobriety and the Stones guest spot that wasn't
Posted by:
wonderboy
()
Date: April 4, 2019 01:13
Quote
Kurt
Great read...thank you for posting.
Sobriety rocks.
Yes!
Re: Ivan Neville on sobriety and the Stones guest spot that wasn't
Posted by:
MisterDDDD
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Date: April 4, 2019 01:14
Quote
wonderboyQuote
Kurt
Great read...thank you for posting.
Sobriety rocks.
Yes!
Re: Ivan Neville on sobriety and the Stones guest spot that wasn't
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: April 4, 2019 18:21
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
eradQuote
Hairball
Ronnie was known to be a heavy freebase user (a more glamorous term for crackhead)- wonder if Keith ever said anything to him...
I believe during the '81 tour Keith almost kicked Ronnie out of the band due to his use of freebase...
I believed that was only a rumour (and it was Mick, not Keith).
However, Keith supposedly pulled a gun on Ronnie, because of his freebasing
I guess it depends on who you choose to believe.
Keith: (W)e're at the Fairmont Hotel, which looks a bit like Buckingham Palace, with an east wing and a west wing. I was in one wing and Ronnie was in the other. And I heard there was a big freebase party going on in Ronnie's room. He was being irresponsible to the max. He had promised me he wouldn't be doing that shit on the road. The red curtain came down. So I went downstairs, marched through the central lobby of the Fairmont. Patti was saying, don't go mad, don't do it.... I got there, he opened the door and I just socked him. You @#$%&, boom. So he fell backwards over the couch and the rest of my punch carried me over on top of him, the couch fell over and we both nearly fell out the window. We scared ourselves to death... After that I don't really remember much. I'd made my point.
Ron: I was missing one day and Keith met my old lady and she was crying, and she had a go about me to Keith. He said, That bastard! He thought I was fooling around with other women because I was missing, and he also thought I'd gone over to these really shady people's place to do drugs. So he got this posse, a search party, and they're all tearing down the corridor and finally found me in a friend's room on another floor. I'd just had an argument with the old lady, and went and sat with this old friend for a few hours. I hear this posse coming down the corridor, Keith walks in and smashes a bottle and comes at me and I did a quick serve on him and elbowed him in the gut (laughs). Then there was a fist in the genitals, and fist in the face, and he nearly went out the window, actually. I was equally livid 'cause they'd got it all wrong! So it was just one of those misunderstandings on the tour where everything gets blown out of proportion for a bit. So he was dragged off and we were yelling obscenities at each other, and then a couple of hours later we were back to normal.
[timeisonourside.com]
Re: Ivan Neville on sobriety and the Stones guest spot that wasn't
Posted by:
dcba
()
Date: April 4, 2019 18:37
Quote
GasLightStreet
Keith: (W)e're at the Fairmont Hotel, which looks a bit like Buckingham Palace, with an east wing and a west wing.
That's in San Francisco! And that would explain why the 1981 tour shows that took place in that city are so bland and boring!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2019-04-04 21:33 by dcba.
Re: Ivan Neville on sobriety and the Stones guest spot that wasn't
Posted by:
wonderboy
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Date: April 4, 2019 19:55
Notice Keith is nearly always falling out windows during these punchups!
Re: Ivan Neville on sobriety and the Stones guest spot that wasn't
Posted by:
Palace Revolution 2000
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Date: April 5, 2019 16:19
I always have to roll my eyes when they talk about pulling guns on each other. If it weren't so dangerous with two highly intoxicated pampered rock stars fiddling around, trying to determine which end goes up, and what a safety is, it would be funny.Quote
wonderboy
Notice Keith is nearly always falling out windows during these punchups!
I only recently listened to Ivan's solo album "My ancestors.." - Excellent album.
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