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DandelionPowderman
I think there are examples of both. Sometimes, the unfinished versions are better (Keep Up Blues and some of the SW-tracks spring to mind).
However, LIS and YGMR really got a good makeover that improved the songs, imo.
I find it fascinating to listen to the development of their tunes as well. Some of the the early attemps are very long (the SG-tracks, Flip The Switch, YGR, for instance). We can litterally hear them searching for sweet stuff to add and trying out different things. Surprisingly, they often keep the backing tracks of many of those versions for the finished version. Then, they edit them down and do the overdubs and the final touches.
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keithsman
It's just about finished, this isn't Keith noodling, pity Keith didn't keep this to himself as we could have had a Keith single from the Stones. It's about time, hoping for more Keith tracks on the new album, 3 or 4 to give it more depth and keep it interesting. Blue And Lonesome was missing Keith's vocals, one of the reasons it was so one dimensional, can't believe Keith didn't get one track of his choice to do a blues vocal.
Yeah i heard this before, sounds like Mick took the guts out of this one, certainly he didn't improve it. Keith's is potent, with more passion, stronger, and it's being driven harder imho.
Will we ever hear Keith singing One More Shot, now that would be nice, Steve Jordan had the impression Keith's version was better.
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keithsman
It's just about finished, this isn't Keith noodling, pity Keith didn't keep this to himself as we could have had a Keith single from the Stones. It's about time, hoping for more Keith tracks on the new album, 3 or 4 to give it more depth and keep it interesting. Blue And Lonesome was missing Keith's vocals, one of the reasons it was so one dimensional, can't believe Keith didn't get one track of his choice to do a blues vocal.
Yeah i heard this before, sounds like Mick took the guts out of this one, certainly he didn't improve it. Keith's is potent, with more passion, stronger, and it's being driven harder imho.
Will we ever hear Keith singing One More Shot, now that would be nice, Steve Jordan had the impression Keith's version was better.
Good post. But I don't think Mick took the guts out of it. Keith is a fine singer of his own style; and by doing his solo albums I think he really found his strenghts, and discovered what to use and what not etc. But he is not close to Mick, who is one of the great singers in music, one of the great interpreters, story tellers. Just on LIS, the way Mick stays low and gloomy, a bit threatening for the verses; and then opens it up for the chorus. That implied "mmm" before "what are you scared of baby" - those are class deliveries.
Its intriguing what you say about Keith doing a vocal on B&L. I had never even thought about that.
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DandelionPowderman
Here's 11 brilliant minutes with Keith's You Got Me Rocking, while we're at it:
[www.youtube.com]
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GivenToFly15
Voodoo Brew-Stew-Residue all show the richness of this era, musically speaking. So many gems, even with unfinished songs. And for once the mix/mastering was so natural and clean (wish the Stones would go back to it).
By the way, does anyone know the story behind such a giant leak?
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GivenToFly15
Voodoo Brew-Stew-Residue all show the richness of this era, musically speaking. So many gems, even with unfinished songs. And for once the mix/mastering was so natural and clean (wish the Stones would go back to it).
By the way, does anyone know the story behind such a giant leak?
I have this theory the leaks come from Keith himself.
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Doxa
Thank you both of you for sharing these. For a Stones nerd like me it is always interesting to hear works in progress, and thereby witnessing the whole creativity process of the Stones (especially that of Jagger/Richards colloboration).
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DandelionPowderman
Here's 11 brilliant minutes with Keith's You Got Me Rocking, while we're at it:
[www.youtube.com]
Wow - never heard that before. Brilliant.
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Doxa
Thank you both of you for sharing these. For a Stones nerd like me it is always interesting to hear works in progress, and thereby witnessing the whole creativity process of the Stones (especially that of Jagger/Richards colloboration).
Doxa
Especially when the leaked bootleg tunes are better than the final official MJ/KR-sanctioned release...
Said differently I never heard a working version of a song from the golden (68-72) era that was better than the official version, which proves that during these years the Twins' flair was unparalleled. They made NO mistakes.
Now (and it's my opinion) the release of the "Voodoo Brew/Stew/Residue" around 1996/97 proved that the Twins had lost quite a fair share of their flair : they were putting 2nd rate material on the album and were putting away embryos of songs that had a great potential (like "You Got It Made").
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DandelionPowderman
Check out If You Can't Rock Me.
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GivenToFly15
Voodoo Brew-Stew-Residue all show the richness of this era, musically speaking. So many gems, even with unfinished songs. And for once the mix/mastering was so natural and clean (wish the Stones would go back to it).
By the way, does anyone know the story behind such a giant leak?
I have this theory the leaks come from Keith himself.
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DandelionPowderman
Check out If You Can't Rock Me.