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Oh funny you guys are funny!

I try to monitor what goes into my head. What am I doing here indeed, ha ha ha
One day I’ll watch it.

Oh you gotta see it. It's Mick at his absolute best.

Agreed. It is not an easy film. It has depth. That is why you got people like Rocky and Rockman still talking about it 50 years later. I think someone tuning in waiting to see Mick in the buff, and hopping around may be disappointed. well, you do get that, just not in the way you expect it.

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Oh funny you guys are funny!

I try to monitor what goes into my head. What am I doing here indeed, ha ha ha
One day I’ll watch it.

Oh you gotta see it. It's Mick at his absolute best.

Agreed. It is not an easy film. It has depth. That is why you got people like Rocky and Rockman still talking about it 50 years later. I think someone tuning in waiting to see Mick in the buff, and hopping around may be disappointed. well, you do get that, just not in the way you expect it.

If I tuned in just to see Mick in the buff, I’d have already tuned in, I was joking about it earlier. Has Keith ever seen it? Anyway, I do depth, I do films, no biggie, I’ll get to it!

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Has Keith ever seen it?

I have seen that photo, but actually had not really registered thatyes, Keith has seen it. I thought that was a really good question.

If Jagger hadn't been in it no one would have remembered it. Seems to have a cult status. Mostly known these days for Jagger having sex in it. Arty, intellectual or pseudo-intellectual.
Typical of its time. Dare I say I'm not a fan. I wonder what Keith's initial reaction was when first watching this?

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If Jagger hadn't been in it no one would have remembered it.

Ranked as the 48th best British film of all time according to the British Film Institute...
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(I've actually seen a different list where it was ranked, I think, 28th, but can't find it at the moment). Personally, I think it's a really interesting film and Jagger is actually the weakest link, though he's obviously interesting from a Stones fan perspective (and as emblematic of a certain cultural moment, but his acting is meh).

syrel

Sure, Syrel. But the Jagger part is what most people remember. Not the acting per se but the fact that he took part in it. To be fair, change no one to very few then.



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I wonder what Keith's initial reaction was when first watching this?

I don't know if it's a truthworthy source, but Victor Bockris in his biography of Keith has a few disturbing pages regarding the shooting of the film. I mean, you have to imagine what it must have been like for Keith, regarding what was going on between Mick and Anita. Bockris explains that Keith did retaliate by refusing to record "Memo From Turner" with Mick...

Here's Anita's point of view according to Bockris:
« Marianne left after a while because she couldn’t stand the Brazilian climate and felt sick, so it was Mick, Keith, and me staying on this ranch in the middle of nowhere. It was quite a creative time. That’s where they wrote ‘You Can’t Always Get What You Want’ and ‘Let It Bleed.’ Mick wanted me to split with him after we had done Performance. I definitely remember that I didn’t want to have anything to do with Mick Jagger. I did not want to be his girlfriend. I never did. But Mick and me still had this kind of secret, or thought we did, so for me it was exciting because I thought I was in the middle of this high drama. And Keith was willing to go along with it. He could have just said, ‘No, I don’t want to know. You do whatever you want to and that’s it.’ But Keith was willing to go along with it. Me and Mick would jokingly talk about all those things and it was like, you can’t always get what you want. »

By the way, the book claims that the premiere was on January 4, 1971.

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Sure, Syrel. But the Jagger part is what most people remember. Not the acting per se but the fact that he took part in it. To be fair, change no one to very few then.

Yeah, I'm sure it's what most people remember - and he's not uninteresting, as Jagger is really playing Jagger (when he tries to plays something not Jagger, eg Ned Kelly, it hasn't ended well...). I just think the film is actually quite a good film (coming from someone that really doesn't like films very much, though I am probably arty and intellectual ;-) )

, Syrel!

Can't really imagine the film without Mick. From the soundtrack through to the promotion, it was about Mick and what a danger decadent anti-establishment androgynous rock stars seemed at the time. Cammell deserves credit for seeing the connection to the mob and showing both sides of Turner from creative bohemian to respectable businessman. The film is similar to SUNSET BLVD. in that both have a young man on the run seeking asylum in the strange home of a reclusive retired star. Both are about death and how the strange intersection of celebrity and unchecked hedonism often result in tragedy. The public wants celebrities to be wild and weird, but not too weird or they'll turn on them just as the media directs them to do. The irony of a young gangster who has murdered and tortured people for the sake of money and power looking down upon the decadent rock star is also wonderfully pointed satire.

PERFORMANCE isn't a film I could watch all the time, but it is a fascinating and artistic piece. THE MAN FROM ELYSIAN FIELDS is the only other Mick film that I think is really worth revisiting. The soundtrack is terrific and deserves to be part of any Stones collection. I'll take the Jagger solo single of "Memo from Turner" over the METAMORPHOSIS version any day.

For the record, the January 1971 date was the UK release. Stateside, it played in 1970 along with NED KELLY.

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Can't really imagine the film without Mick. From the soundtrack through to the promotion, it was about Mick and what a danger decadent anti-establishment androgynous rock stars seemed at the time. Cammell deserves credit for seeing the connection to the mob and showing both sides of Turner from creative bohemian to respectable businessman. The film is similar to SUNSET BLVD. in that both have a young man on the run seeking asylum in the strange home of a reclusive retired star. Both are about death and how the strange intersection of celebrity and unchecked hedonism often result in tragedy. The public wants celebrities to be wild and weird, but not too weird or they'll turn on them just as the media directs them to do. The irony of a young gangster who has murdered and tortured people for the sake of money and power looking down upon the decadent rock star is also wonderfully pointed satire.

PERFORMANCE isn't a film I could watch all the time, but it is a fascinating and artistic piece. THE MAN FROM ELYSIAN FIELDS is the only other Mick film that I think is really worth revisiting. The soundtrack is terrific and deserves to be part of any Stones collection. I'll take the Jagger solo single of "Memo from Turner" over the METAMORPHOSIS version any day.

For the record, the January 1971 date was the UK release. Stateside, it played in 1970 along with NED KELLY.

Yes, I take the Jagger single over the 'Metamorphosis" version; by far. It's the difference of being chauffeured in a Bentley vs. taking the bus. Both 'll get you there, but...

But hold it a minute - I am transfixed by that last sentence/ quote; is that a signature quote?

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But hold it a minute - I am transfixed by that last sentence/ quote; is that a signature quote?

It is, yeah. I was given it yesterday. It amused me at the time so I added it to a few earlier posts. Not sure if I'll keep it. It doesn't violate the rules, but my appreciation of such things is very much down to the mood I'm in from work.

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Well Michael, I think it's far past time you consider a sequel,
what do you say?

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"It’s 50 years since I filmed Performance & I’m happy to say that Jay Glennie is set to release the Performance 50 th large format book. Featuring interviews with me, James Fox, Sandy Lieberson, Nic Roeg and over 500 images, it’s a beauty!" http://www.performance-book.com



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Well that was unexpected. He's doing actual promotion for it.

What stadium is in the picture behind him?

Hope he signs that book for Rockman

Rockman can have the book I’d like the silk shirt please



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Hope he signs that book for Rockman ……


Hey yeah that'd be nice …….

Pretty sure Mick's interview in the book
is the first he has ever given about Performance …..



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Sure, Syrel. But the Jagger part is what most people remember. Not the acting per se but the fact that he took part in it. To be fair, change no one to very few then.

Yeah, I'm sure it's what most people remember - and he's not uninteresting, as Jagger is really playing Jagger (when he tries to plays something not Jagger, eg Ned Kelly, it hasn't ended well...). I just think the film is actually quite a good film (coming from someone that really doesn't like films very much, though I am probably arty and intellectual ;-) )

Actually, I always thought it was Mick playing Turner as a mix of Keith and Brian.
Cool (Keith) and tortured (Brian).
I never saw Mick (in his off stage persona) as being like Turner at all.

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What stadium is in the picture behind him?

Photo's from the 2006 Superbowl Halftime at Ford Field, Detroit.

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What stadium is in the picture behind him?

Photo's from the 2006 Superbowl Halftime at Ford Field, Detroit.

Thank you. I was 98% sure that was it, but knew someone here would be 100%

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Hope he signs that book for Rockman ……


Hey yeah that'd be nice …….

Pretty sure Mick's interview in the book
is the first he has ever given about Performance …..

Well I wonder what it says!
ETA: well, well, well, click the link and Mick says there were no stand ins...
His face, Anita’s face, stunning.
MICK JAGGER Rockman should get a signed copy please...



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He'll listen to you..
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Well I finally got assurance about that rare Jagger pic that I posted here years ago when none of us had seen it; and nobody was sure where it came from. It is one with black hair and Jagger smoking a cigar. IT is from Performance because a shot of Jagger and Roeg must have been taken minutes before or after.

Mojo magazine - February 2019

I haven’t seen the film in ages, just watched again: a true Cult Classic.

It is, but I still think Terry's version has scenes unavailable commercially.