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keefriff99
Here's some footage from opening night...
Detroit Rock City
Lick It Up
Do You Love Me?
Rock'n'Roll All Nite
01. Detroit Rock City
02. Shout It Out Loud
03. Deuce
04. Say Yeah
05. Heaven's On Fire
06. War Machine
07. Lick It Up
08. 100,000 Years
09. God Of Thunder
10. Cold Gin
11. Psycho Circus
12. I Love It Loud
13. Hide Your Heart
14. Let Me Go, Rock 'N' Roll
15. Love Gun
16. I Was Made For Lovin' You
17. Black Diamond
Encore:
18. Beth
19. Do You Love Me
20. Rock And Roll All Nite
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keefriff99
Here's some footage from opening night...
Detroit Rock City
Lick It Up
Do You Love Me?
Rock'n'Roll All Nite
01. Detroit Rock City
02. Shout It Out Loud
03. Deuce
04. Say Yeah
05. Heaven's On Fire
06. War Machine
07. Lick It Up
08. 100,000 Years
09. God Of Thunder
10. Cold Gin
11. Psycho Circus
12. I Love It Loud
13. Hide Your Heart
14. Let Me Go, Rock 'N' Roll
15. Love Gun
16. I Was Made For Lovin' You
17. Black Diamond
Encore:
18. Beth
19. Do You Love Me
20. Rock And Roll All Nite
Yes, numbers 4-13 take a serious dip, IMHO.
I like most fans like the stuff up through Love Gun best.
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More Hot Rocks
Did Simmons ever get better at playing the bass after all these years?
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RollingFreak
They never beat their 96 reunion setlist. It was basically perfect:
1. Deuce
2. King of the Night Time World
3. Do You Love Me
4. Calling Dr. Love
5. Cold Gin
6. I Stole Your Love
7. Shout It Out Loud
8. Watchin' You
9. Firehouse
10. Shock Me (with guitar solo and rockets and smoke)
11. Strutter
12. Rock Bottom
13. God of Thunder (with bass and drum solo and spitting blood and flying)
14. New York Groove
15. Love Gun
16. 100,000 Years
17. Black Diamond
Encore:
18. Detroit Rock City
19. Beth
20. Rock and Roll All Nite
Eddie Trunk talks about this a lot. It's difficult to say so much backing track is being utilized. There are times when Paul's voice is obviously live simply due to the fact that it's so ragged and hoarse.Quote
Kennedy
Pretty sure I saw evidence of a backing vocal track for Paul too. There is a quite a bit of evidence proving some degree of lip synching on YouTube recently, and it appears to be true.
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keefriff99Eddie Trunk talks about this a lot. It's difficult to say so much backing track is being utilized. There are times when Paul's voice is obviously live simply due to the fact that it's so ragged and hoarse.Quote
Kennedy
Pretty sure I saw evidence of a backing vocal track for Paul too. There is a quite a bit of evidence proving some degree of lip synching on YouTube recently, and it appears to be true.
They probably use some type of vocal blending algorithm using pre-recorded vocals to make them "less bad" (especially at higher pitches), but they can only do so much.
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SonicDreamer
Final tour and no "Firehouse". WTF.
Five adjustments would make this a much superior setlist:
1. Ditch "Say Yeah" and do "Firehouse"
2. Ditch "Psycho Circus"and do "Calling Dr. Love"
3. Ditch "War Machine" and do "Creatures Of the Night"
4. Ditch "Hide Your Heart" and do "King of the Night Time World"
5. Ditch "100,000 Years" and do "Strutter"
Cheers,
SonicD
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keefriff99
Detroit Rock City and Shout It Out Loud, Portland
LOL, just watch this video from last night in Portland...it's front-row, and the evidence of lip-syncing is all over the damn place.
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RollingFreak
My perfect KISS setlist would be:
1. Deuce
2. King Of The Night Time World
3. Room Service
4. Firehouse
5. Calling Dr. Love
6. Nothin' To Lose
7. C'mon And Love Me
8. Lick It Up
9. Shock Me
10. Christine Sixteen
11. Comin' Home (semi-unplugged)
12. Hard Luck Women (semi-unplugged)
13. Take It Off
14. Tomorrow And Tonight
15. I Want You
16. Hell Or Hallelujah (great new song and something recent)
17. Beth
18. God Of Thunder
19. Love Gun
20. Black Diamond
ENCORE: (side 4 of Alive with Detroit in for Rock Bottom)
21. Detroit Rock City
22. Cold Gin
23. Rock And Roll All Nite
24. Let Me Go, Rock N Roll
I'd pay good money to see even this pathetic excuse of KISS playing that set. Lip syncing and all. But to see what they do every year? Thats even more pathetic.
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keefriff99
Paul really was an AMAZING singer. He had a great range and a genuine charisma to his voice.
The comments section on the video I posted are mostly fans shouting down people pointing out the lip-syncing, saying all big bands do it and that they had a great time regardless.
Hey, if people are happy, then so be it. When I saw The Wall tour in 2012, it occurred to me that Roger was completely lip-syncing, but the spectacle of that show made up for it. Don't think you can say the same for KISS...their stage is cool, but not THAT cool.
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keefriff99
Dio, Glenn Hughes, Sammy Hagar, and Steven Tyler are who I think of when it comes to hard rockers still being able to deliver the goods in your 60s and even 70s.
Rob Halford and Bruce Dickinson are kicking ass as well, although Bruce can sound a little strained sometimes.
I have a lot of sympathy for singers who lose their voices simply due to age. It's really gotta be frustrating and depressing. It's not like playing an instrument (although things like arthritis can take a toll on that)...your BODY is your instrument, and it starts failing you.
But what gets me is Paul's arrogance and constant putting down of ex-members as if he's infallible. I know he has spoken somewhat honestly about his voice in recent interviews, but he still acts like he's above everyone else. I guess that's the false bravado you come to expect from KISS, but it still rubs me the wrong way.