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...let's hope not! I love Miss You played live, it's one of the best moments of the concert, wonderful versions of Miami 94.

Yeah, Time to have a piss and get some water.
jeroen

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...let's hope not! I love Miss You played live, it's one of the best moments of the concert, wonderful versions of Miami 94.

Yeah, Time to have a piss and get some water.
jeroen

I never went to the toilet during a concert or even to the bar, with what it costs me I want to enjoy everything, it does not last 5 hours and I can hold myself for 2 hours I'm not a child or a 90-year old!

Review by German HiFi-Magazine STEREO - 2/2019, p.157:



Music/Content: 3.5 out of 5 Stars, Audio-Quality: 2 out of 5 Stars, Picture-Quality: 1.5 out of 5 Stars

"In so weithin verunglücktem Murks-Mix wurde noch kein Auftritt der Rolling Stones vorgelegt: Mick Jagger ist absurd laut in den Vordergrund gemischt, die Instrumente hingegen sind oft akustisch 'unterbelichtet' bis unhörbar. Immerhin wartet die Setlist des Konzerts vom November 1994 mit live selten musizierten Songs und Auftritten von Bo Diddley (bei 'Who Do You Love') und Robert Cray (sehr gelungene Deutung von Robert Johnsons 'Stop Breaking Down'-Blues) auf. Die immer wieder unscharfe Optik unterbietet in ihrer 'historischen' Qualität noch die des Pariser 'Paradiso'-Mitschnitts von 1995."

I still don't think the sound is bad .

It just suits the minority taste ...including mine.

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Review by German Hifi-Magazine STEREO - 2/2019, p.157:



Music/Content: 3.5 out of 5 Stars, Audio-Quality: 2 out of 5 Stars, Picture-Quality: 1.5 out of 5 Stars

"In so weithin verunglücktem Murks-Mix wurde noch kein Auftritt der Rolling Stones vorgelegt: Mick Jagger ist absurd laut in den Vordergrund gemischt, die Instrumente hingegen sind oft akustisch 'unterbelichtet' bis unhörbar. Immerhin wartet die Setlist des Konzerts vom November 1994 mit live selten musizierten Songs und Auftritten von Bo Diddley (bei 'Who Do You Love') und Robert Cray (sehr gelungene Deutung von Robert Johnsons 'Stop Breaking Down'-Blues) auf. Die immer wieder unscharfe Optik unterbietet in ihrer 'historischen' Qualität noch die des Pariser 'Paradiso'-Mitschnitts von 1995."

Looks like they have been reading our moans here
And concerning 'minority tastes'. I was trying hard to dig the sound, but no. The whole thing does not sound right to me. No matter what I did - even playing it loud and focusing on Lisa's appearance on the screen

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Review by German Hifi-Magazine STEREO - 2/2019, p.157:



Music/Content: 3.5 out of 5 Stars, Audio-Quality: 2 out of 5 Stars, Picture-Quality: 1.5 out of 5 Stars

"In so weithin verunglücktem Murks-Mix wurde noch kein Auftritt der Rolling Stones vorgelegt: Mick Jagger ist absurd laut in den Vordergrund gemischt, die Instrumente hingegen sind oft akustisch 'unterbelichtet' bis unhörbar. Immerhin wartet die Setlist des Konzerts vom November 1994 mit live selten musizierten Songs und Auftritten von Bo Diddley (bei 'Who Do You Love') und Robert Cray (sehr gelungene Deutung von Robert Johnsons 'Stop Breaking Down'-Blues) auf. Die immer wieder unscharfe Optik unterbietet in ihrer 'historischen' Qualität noch die des Pariser 'Paradiso'-Mitschnitts von 1995."

Unfortunately the rating is fair. This release is disappointing.

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I still don't think the sound is bad .

It just suits the minority taste ...including mine.

See I agree and actually like it sound and audio !

Nice to have confirmed that there is nothing wrong with my ears then...



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I love this release on CD’s for my car. It’s a blast. Maybe 1 day I will view the DVD :-)

In the acoustic set Ronnie was great with his acoustic guitar, I love his solo in Dead Flowers! Ronnie played well in this concert.

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In the acoustic set Ronnie was great with his acoustic guitar, I love his solo in Dead Flowers! Ronnie played well in this concert.

The acoustic set was very good and Ronnie played his tail off and ditto for Keith and Micks vocals and harp playing on Sweet Virginia along with Bobby Keys killer sax solo which is to die for !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well I think it's awful. I actually threw it in garbage (not kidding) jut like A Bigger Bang.

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Well I think it's awful. I actually threw it in garbage (not kidding) jut like A Bigger Bang.

You're such a cool guy!

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Well I think it's awful. I actually threw it in garbage (not kidding) jut like A Bigger Bang.

Rubbish

Rod

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Well I think it's awful. I actually threw it in garbage (not kidding) jut like A Bigger Bang.

Anger issues?

I guess we all have different ears and likes ;-)
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»Das Material ließen die Stones restaurieren und neu mastern – der Klang punktet mit ausbalancierter Tonalität, guter Auflösung und breiter Stereobasis.« (Audio, Januar 2019)

Yeah "Stereo" and "Audio" claim the opposite - a classic

After reading several comments on this thread about this release, I have confirmation that my ears are fine, abet I suffer from some hearing loss, that this release is by far the worst of any of the previous vault releases. How did this get released with this quality. First, the sound level seems low compared to other concerts and the guitars are mixed way too low. You want proof as to how bad this is, just listen to Totally Stripped.

Very, very disappointing...…………..

SFTD

Corona time, 3rd week at home and time to listen to some CDs and DVDs I had purchased in the past and that had at first found their way into the shelf only.

I can’t believe how Chuck’s organ is so loud in the mix right at the start of Not Fade Away. Doesn’t make sense at all, as it always was a guitar song. You barely here the guitars.

Listened to some European boots of that tour, where things are back to normal and as I remember the song from the Voodoo Lounge tour. IMHO Not Fade Away was one of the best, if not the best, opening songs of any Stones tour.

Can’t beleive the boys are so indifferent about it releasing this recording.

So the consensus seems to be that this release has poor sound or at least poor mixing and mastering? I have the 3 LP set still unopened, I think it might get put away unopened. I was hoping for, no, expecting sterling sound and a pro mix.

jb

This release, as well as San Jose and both Bridges releases, make it pretty clear that they didn’t remix these for release. I don’t believe for a moment they’d have let these go out like this if they were mixing them from scratch, it’s just that in this case they either didn’t have the multi tracks or didn’t want to spend the money to mix them again, and they had existing serviceable mixes they could release.

I’m still glad we got these shows, especially San Jose, but it was a missed opportunity for sure.

So these are basically front-of-house stereo mix soundboard tapes?

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So these are basically front-of-house stereo mix soundboard tapes?

jb

I don’t know about that, but I’m confident these are the mixes as they were done in ‘94/‘98/‘99, rather than one done in 2019.

The mix is really really bad. I don't know when and who did it but it is horrible. I much prefer the mix on the Tokio Show, which was released in Japan only but is available as an import here in Germany via jpc.de

Yeah I can't stand the sound on Voodoo Lounge Uncut, however I am alright with the sounds on the '99 and the 2 B2B releases, although they're not as good as on Totally Stripped.

But I just adore the sound, the echo and the feeling you get on the b-stage from Buenos Aires, it sounds exactly as you would be there if you listen with headphones in front of the tv

It is possible that they will mix it up again, leaving the sound as the Bremen 88, by the way the next one will be known.

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This release, as well as San Jose and both Bridges releases, make it pretty clear that they didn’t remix these for release. I don’t believe for a moment they’d have let these go out like this if they were mixing them from scratch, it’s just that in this case they either didn’t have the multi tracks or didn’t want to spend the money to mix them again, and they had existing serviceable mixes they could release.

I’m still glad we got these shows, especially San Jose, but it was a missed opportunity for sure.

The mixes are nothing like the original TV broadcasts, they are new mixes from the multi-tracks.
All the hallmarks of modern excessive overly compressed mixes are there, nothing like the originals.


I doubt the Stones ever listen to these things before signing off on them.



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I did it long ago and can repeat it again
I Go Wild from CD single VSCDX 1539, 1995 (CD Made in UK by EMI Swindon)
[www.dropbox.com]
I Go Wild from Voodoo Lounge Uncut, 2018 (2CD+DVD version, CD manufactured by optimal media GmbH)
[www.dropbox.com]
This is the same track from the very same show. Just different approach to mastering 1995 vs. 2018.
Only about 1 minute is presented. You know, a sample.

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I did it long ago and can repeat it again
I Go Wild from CD single VSCDX 1539, 1995 (CD Made in UK by EMI Swindon)
[www.dropbox.com]
I Go Wild from Voodoo Lounge Uncut, 2018 (2CD+DVD version, CD manufactured by optimal media GmbH)
[www.dropbox.com]
This is the same track from the very same show. Just different approach to mastering 1995 vs. 2018.
Only about 1 minute is presented. You know, a sample.

I say this as an engineer with over 25 years experience, those are different mixes, with very different approaches to mixing and mastering.



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In the acoustic set Ronnie was great with his acoustic guitar, I love his solo in Dead Flowers! Ronnie played well in this concert.

Yes, Ronnie give us one of his best solos on Beast of Burden, unfortunately buried in this lousy mix. His solo is crisp and crystal clear on another mix I've got... One of my fav Ronnie-moments.