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Yes, was looking forward to that one!
It does sound a bit muddy, but the ppv boot had the same. Or in fact most SBS from that tour. Compare NY 1994 to St. Louis 1997
Very odd since you can hear the out of key destruction and the overdubbed solo at same time, it's like they didn't bother to mute the flubbed solo.
The cure for SFTD solo is funny, though.
Absolutely, and that's what what struck me too when I compared. Either they did not bother to dig out the original multitrack tapes again for this release and just tried to fiddle the EQ on a less than perfect old stereo mix tape or Clearmountain's replacement has no ears to mix the Stones and was just used because he offered to do the job much cheaper.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-11-18 15:18 by retired_dog.
Time for a new Series (after Vault, Uncut) then: 'Restored' - Music as it was intended to be recorded / to be heard ....
I watched about half the show yesterday and I did enjoy it, sound issues aside. Sparks Will Fly was actually the biggest revelation for me...never really enjoyed the album version but live, Keith and Ronnie really let it fly on the guitars.
Live With Me...the vocals were very jarring. Sheryl's voice just blared out on top of everything.
they did a pretty good job! – compared to the remastered versions of the 1971-onwards remasters
Yeah Sparks was very good, and the quality is much better than my Tuff Bites bootleg. No real complaints...
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Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by:
fuwa
()
Date: November 18, 2018 05:18
Sounds OK to me and I have good equipment. Watched the bluray twice. The original source was probably not that good to begin with. I wasn’t expecting IMAX Steel Wheels quality. The Voodoo Lounge concert in Oakland on Halloween night was one of my favorite concert experiences. Watched the NJ concert tape sold at the show that night with my cat Cuddles by my side and then went to bed and got up for work the next day.
Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by:
35love
()
Date: November 18, 2018 05:18
I bought it, amassing a collection for someone who doesn’t collect
I don’t watch them either I wanted CD’s for my auto
which is stuck on Brussels TD ‘ooh la la, ooh la la’ says Mick after
anyway back to Voodoo Uncut it sounds flat on Spotify (brickwalled!)
I am banking on the CD’s sounding richer for sure
and after internal debate decided
no reserve left
to check out/
‘Beast of Burden’
in spectacular blu buff Mick glory. Uh-uh. Nor the exquisite guitars.
Nope. I cannot take anymore smoke and fire ha ha ha
I don’t watch them either I wanted CD’s for my auto
which is stuck on Brussels TD ‘ooh la la, ooh la la’ says Mick after
anyway back to Voodoo Uncut it sounds flat on Spotify (brickwalled!)
I am banking on the CD’s sounding richer for sure
and after internal debate decided
no reserve left
to check out/
‘Beast of Burden’
in spectacular blu buff Mick glory. Uh-uh. Nor the exquisite guitars.
Nope. I cannot take anymore smoke and fire ha ha ha
Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: November 18, 2018 06:56
It's not uncut - Keith's destruction of SFTD's solo is missing.
Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by:
Rik
()
Date: November 18, 2018 12:53
Quote
GasLightStreet
It's not uncut - Keith's destruction of SFTD's solo is missing.
Yes, was looking forward to that one!
It does sound a bit muddy, but the ppv boot had the same. Or in fact most SBS from that tour. Compare NY 1994 to St. Louis 1997
Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by:
slewan
()
Date: November 18, 2018 13:57
the recording sounds muffled like the mics have been behind some curtain. It doesn't have anything to do with 90s technology – the recordings of the 95 club shows are brilliant; they sound crisp and clear
I made a somehow better sounding recording of a Voodoo Louge show with a simple tape recorder than the VL uncut recording
Or is there something wrong with my ears…?
(sorry if it has been discussed before)
I made a somehow better sounding recording of a Voodoo Louge show with a simple tape recorder than the VL uncut recording
Or is there something wrong with my ears…?
(sorry if it has been discussed before)
Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by:
TheBlockbuster
()
Date: November 18, 2018 13:58
Quote
GasLightStreet
It's not uncut - Keith's destruction of SFTD's solo is missing.
Very odd since you can hear the out of key destruction and the overdubbed solo at same time, it's like they didn't bother to mute the flubbed solo.
Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by:
ironbelly
()
Date: November 18, 2018 14:41
Second this. Too much Mick and Charlie (and in places - Darryl). Everything else sounds from under the veil.Quote
keefriff99
The drums are crisper and louder but it seems to be at the expense of the guitars and horns, and Mick is so far out in front of the mix that he sounds like he's performing on a different stage.
And Keith's botched SFTD solo is still skillfully excised.
The cure for SFTD solo is funny, though.
Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by:
retired_dog
()
Date: November 18, 2018 15:17
Quote
nick
The frustration in some opinions on it's sound is justified. The live I Go Wild on the 1995 single is from the PPV and ALL of it is in your face.
Absolutely, and that's what what struck me too when I compared. Either they did not bother to dig out the original multitrack tapes again for this release and just tried to fiddle the EQ on a less than perfect old stereo mix tape or Clearmountain's replacement has no ears to mix the Stones and was just used because he offered to do the job much cheaper.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-11-18 15:18 by retired_dog.
Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by:
Irix
()
Date: November 18, 2018 15:30
Quote
retired_dog
Either they did not bother to dig out the original multitrack tapes again for this release and just tried to fiddle the EQ on a less than perfect old stereo mix tape or Clearmountain's replacement has no ears to mix the Stones and was just used because he offered to do the job much cheaper.
Time for a new Series (after Vault, Uncut) then: 'Restored' - Music as it was intended to be recorded / to be heard ....
Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by:
retired_dog
()
Date: November 18, 2018 15:35
Quote
IrixQuote
retired_dog
Either they did not bother to dig out the original multitrack tapes again for this release and just tried to fiddle the EQ on a less than perfect old stereo mix tape or Clearmountain's replacement has no ears to mix the Stones and was just used because he offered to do the job much cheaper.
Time for a new Series (after Vault, Uncut) then : 'Restored' - Music as it was intended to be recorded / to be heard ....
Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by:
retired_dog
()
Date: November 18, 2018 15:42
On a more serious note, one has to ask why there's obviously no quality control from the band anymore...is there any input from the band at all in projects like this or just a "sign the deal, grab the royalties and let third parties do whatever they want with the material"-attitude?
Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by:
Testify
()
Date: November 18, 2018 15:55
Who knows, maybe Clearmountain or someone close to him reads this forum, in fact I can not even explain the quality of the sound on these concerts. We are in 2018 and I can not explain the reason for the sound of certain Stones concerts!
Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by:
ironbelly
()
Date: November 18, 2018 16:25
They will need new slogan. 'Meant to be heard' was already used for 2002 SACD/ABKCO campaignQuote
IrixQuote
retired_dog
Either they did not bother to dig out the original multitrack tapes again for this release and just tried to fiddle the EQ on a less than perfect old stereo mix tape or Clearmountain's replacement has no ears to mix the Stones and was just used because he offered to do the job much cheaper.
Time for a new Series (after Vault, Uncut) then: 'Restored' - Music as it was intended to be recorded / to be heard ....
Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by:
keefriff99
()
Date: November 18, 2018 16:39
Certainly seems that way.Quote
retired_dog
On a more serious note, one has to ask why there's obviously no quality control from the band anymore...is there any input from the band at all in projects like this or just a "sign the deal, grab the royalties and let third parties do whatever they want with the material"-attitude?
I watched about half the show yesterday and I did enjoy it, sound issues aside. Sparks Will Fly was actually the biggest revelation for me...never really enjoyed the album version but live, Keith and Ronnie really let it fly on the guitars.
Live With Me...the vocals were very jarring. Sheryl's voice just blared out on top of everything.
Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by:
philrock90
()
Date: November 18, 2018 16:43
Wish they released the new jersey bonus as audio i love shattered and cant get next to you from that show
Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by:
slewan
()
Date: November 18, 2018 16:43
Quote
ironbellyThey will need new slogan. 'Meant to be heard' was already used for 2002 SACD/ABKCO campaignQuote
IrixQuote
retired_dog
Either they did not bother to dig out the original multitrack tapes again for this release and just tried to fiddle the EQ on a less than perfect old stereo mix tape or Clearmountain's replacement has no ears to mix the Stones and was just used because he offered to do the job much cheaper.
Time for a new Series (after Vault, Uncut) then: 'Restored' - Music as it was intended to be recorded / to be heard ....
they did a pretty good job! – compared to the remastered versions of the 1971-onwards remasters
Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by:
runrudolph
()
Date: November 18, 2018 18:00
Monkey man stands out for me.
Thanks to LISA... One SEXY Woman as hell.
Gezzz beautiful
All in all, the guitars are way too soft in the mix. no. i dont like this release. there are some good bits, like Rocks off, and Lisa.
But thats it.
Jeroen
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-11-18 18:09 by corriecas.
Thanks to LISA... One SEXY Woman as hell.
Gezzz beautiful
All in all, the guitars are way too soft in the mix. no. i dont like this release. there are some good bits, like Rocks off, and Lisa.
But thats it.
Jeroen
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-11-18 18:09 by corriecas.
Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: November 18, 2018 18:42
They sucked the life out of the original recording with this one. The sound comes and goes, the guitars wander in and out of the soundscape. The punch is gone.
Listen to the DF intro!
Well done...
Listen to the DF intro!
Well done...
Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by:
RollingTbilisiStones
()
Date: November 18, 2018 18:57
Hi all
I would like to buy this live which finally relesed complete version and i have one question, what you think sd blu ray would sound better or DVD? thanks
Best regards rts
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-11-18 18:58 by RollingTbilisiStones.
I would like to buy this live which finally relesed complete version and i have one question, what you think sd blu ray would sound better or DVD? thanks
Best regards rts
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-11-18 18:58 by RollingTbilisiStones.
Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by:
Stoneage
()
Date: November 18, 2018 19:15
Well, the merchandise is great anyway. You can buy this in 50 ways. And probably 50 ways more. A completist's nightmare..
Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by:
keefriff99
()
Date: November 18, 2018 19:19
It's ironic that they fixed my biggest complaint with the original, which was that the drums were too quiet, and in doing so broke almost everything else.Quote
DandelionPowderman
They sucked the life out of the original recording with this one. The sound comes and goes, the guitars wander in and out of the soundscape. The punch is gone.
Listen to the DF intro!
Well done...
Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by:
ironbelly
()
Date: November 18, 2018 19:28
You will have the same mix. The only difference Bluray = lossless, DVD = lossy. If you can hear differences, lets say, between wav and mp3 320kb/sec - head for Bluray.Quote
RollingTbilisiStones
Hi all
I would like to buy this live which finally relesed complete version and i have one question, what you think sd blu ray would sound better or DVD? thanks
Best regards rts
Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by:
35love
()
Date: November 18, 2018 19:47
I just listened to CD ‘Beast of Burden’ 3x
The guitar playing, I have to see it tonight on the blu ray.
I will be cleaved like I was watching ‘Totally Stripped’ BOB Keith acoustic
This particular RS composition with it’s lilts sounds driving to the trance of it for years.
I am quite pleased to hear and own this version.
I give thanks this Thanksgiving that
I GOT BEAST OF BURDEN AT TWICKENHAM 2018
The guitar playing, I have to see it tonight on the blu ray.
I will be cleaved like I was watching ‘Totally Stripped’ BOB Keith acoustic
This particular RS composition with it’s lilts sounds driving to the trance of it for years.
I am quite pleased to hear and own this version.
I give thanks this Thanksgiving that
I GOT BEAST OF BURDEN AT TWICKENHAM 2018
Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by:
DEmerson
()
Date: November 18, 2018 19:58
I watched the DVD last night and totally enjoyed it. It’s a long show, which is a bonus, and what wouldn’t we give to see them do Stop Breaking Down these days? I didn’t notice any particular issues with the sound, but I wasn’t giving it too much scrutiny - just thought it was the perfect companion for a Saturday night’s viewing.
Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by:
HomerSimpson
()
Date: November 18, 2018 20:10
Hi all. I haven’t posted in a while (those damn cancer treatments). But I got the Blu-ray and cds yesterday and threw on the video right away. I don’t get this mix - esp in DTS surround. Charlie’s cymbals are barely audible. ESP the ride and crash cymbals. The guitars are waaay to low in the mix, and lacking “crunch”. The whole thing is Mick, Chuck and the snare drum way out front, everything else mashed into an indestinct mash-up of background noise.
Reminds me of the Tokyo Dome vault show. Another great one absolutely ruined by a dreadful mix.
Remix voodoo uncut so it sound crisp and clean like Brussels. And for gods sake, find a clip of Love is Strong - even just the music video as an extra. It was the lead / comeback single from the whole voodoo project!
Reminds me of the Tokyo Dome vault show. Another great one absolutely ruined by a dreadful mix.
Remix voodoo uncut so it sound crisp and clean like Brussels. And for gods sake, find a clip of Love is Strong - even just the music video as an extra. It was the lead / comeback single from the whole voodoo project!
Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by:
GivenToFly15
()
Date: November 18, 2018 20:57
Seriously, someone with contact should warn the Stones regarding this problem, otherwise it will go on with future releases. WHoever was in charge clearly did not bother with the sound (and we know because we have another mix to compare it with: the I Go Wild single). This does not do justice to their music, especially the guitar work (aren't the Stones a guitars band?).
Anyway I should receive the colored-vinyl package tomorrow. I will most certainly sell it because I won't be listening to this stuff very often... Such a pity.
Anyway I should receive the colored-vinyl package tomorrow. I will most certainly sell it because I won't be listening to this stuff very often... Such a pity.
Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by:
ComeOn
()
Date: November 18, 2018 21:29
Well maybe they should try hire Giles Martin for that kind of releases next time . He`s a clever guy who did a very nice remaster-job for another english band ..
Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by:
nick
()
Date: November 18, 2018 22:03
Clearmountain did the I Go Wild live single. Product A (single) to Product B (uncut) is night and day. There are no problems with multi's. For a "Top Shelf" band that has made a history of tweeking and overdubbing live songs in a studio, to let this go by is ridiculous. I can say this because I am more a purchaser of the BRAND and NOT a fan of the band. I see right through that crap of "they will buy anything". This is absolutely piss poor product. Period. You got to get a knowledgeable fan in there with them otherwise these releases going forward are going to go downhill in quality. Plenty of people on this board alone could handle it better than whats going on now.
Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by:
donvis
()
Date: November 18, 2018 22:13
I distinctly remember watching the pay per view of this show when it was originally broadcast and thought the sound was absolutely horrible. I have bought this new version but am in no hurry to watch it after what I have read here.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-11-22 15:57 by donvis.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-11-22 15:57 by donvis.
Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by:
Maindefender
()
Date: November 18, 2018 22:40
Quote
keefriff99Certainly seems that way.Quote
retired_dog
On a more serious note, one has to ask why there's obviously no quality control from the band anymore...is there any input from the band at all in projects like this or just a "sign the deal, grab the royalties and let third parties do whatever they want with the material"-attitude?
I watched about half the show yesterday and I did enjoy it, sound issues aside. Sparks Will Fly was actually the biggest revelation for me...never really enjoyed the album version but live, Keith and Ronnie really let it fly on the guitars.
Live With Me...the vocals were very jarring. Sheryl's voice just blared out on top of everything.
Yeah Sparks was very good, and the quality is much better than my Tuff Bites bootleg. No real complaints...
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