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vudicus
Just watched the blu-ray.
The Sound is dreadful.
Drums are loud but cymbals are not.
Guitars are often too low, sometimes barely audible.
The audience has phasing problems.
The mix on the Acoustic set is a joke. You can barely hear the guitars and the bass drum is louder than everything else.
I'm guessing the Stereo mix is a fold of the 5.1 and not a true Stereo mix.
The person who mixed this is clueless and should not be used again... by anyone... ever!!!
I also disliked the mixes on the Stripped box set.
Guitars also often too low, sometimes inaudible. Things getting cancelled out etc.
What a pile of crap.
Totally Stripped didn't bother me...I haven't watched the blu-rays in a couple of years but the accompanying audio CD sounds pretty good to my ears.Quote
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vudicus
Just watched the blu-ray.
The Sound is dreadful.
Drums are loud but cymbals are not.
Guitars are often too low, sometimes barely audible.
The audience has phasing problems.
The mix on the Acoustic set is a joke. You can barely hear the guitars and the bass drum is louder than everything else.
I'm guessing the Stereo mix is a fold of the 5.1 and not a true Stereo mix.
The person who mixed this is clueless and should not be used again... by anyone... ever!!!
I also disliked the mixes on the Stripped box set.
Guitars also often too low, sometimes inaudible. Things getting cancelled out etc.
What a pile of crap.
I totally agree. Both VL Uncut and Totally Stripped are bad mixes, especially regarding the guitars (especially Keith's side, I must say). I can't say I'm looking forward to hearing the Atlantic City 89 release: if the mixes are the same, you won't even be able to enjoy Kiff's solo on SFTD (which is something I would like very much, considering the way it was mixed on the Swinging Pig release)...
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StonedRamblerWell, it's much more reverb on Totally Stripped than on Stripped because Stripped was mixed very dry to fit to the other songs from the studio sessions. In recent years they mixed many live albums with a lot of reverb and I even contacted Bob Clearmountain when SF Live came out and he wrote that Mick wanted it to sound that way. I think that's just a thing of preference. I really like those mixes when listening with headphones, not so much with speakers. But muddiness and phase cancellations that you can hear in VL Uncut are not a thing of preference. These are just signs of bad work.Quote
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StonedRambler
Compare VL Uncut to Totally Stripped, that's a difference like day and night.
Not a big fan of VL Uncut, but Totally Stripped is not such a good mix. Just compare the Stripped version of Angie with the mix of the same song on Totally Stripped (Olympia) : it is awfully bad.
It's definitely DIFFERENT from the VHS/DVD copies I have...and slightly better, but still very flawed.Quote
frankotero
Hmm, I'm wondering what all the fuss is about. To my ears and eyes this is an improvement over existing bootleg audio and video. Plus it's cheaper than those to my memory. Someone mentioned maybe in another thread about how The Stones never seemed to care for their legacy by using quality methods. Maybe this is the answer? Anyhow I'm pleased with the bluray and looking forward to the Tokyo release, which I believe will be a stronger showing. My two cents.
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keefriff99It's definitely DIFFERENT from the VHS/DVD copies I have...and slightly better, but still very flawed.Quote
frankotero
Hmm, I'm wondering what all the fuss is about. To my ears and eyes this is an improvement over existing bootleg audio and video. Plus it's cheaper than those to my memory. Someone mentioned maybe in another thread about how The Stones never seemed to care for their legacy by using quality methods. Maybe this is the answer? Anyhow I'm pleased with the bluray and looking forward to the Tokyo release, which I believe will be a stronger showing. My two cents.
The drums are crisper and louder but it seems to be at the expense of the guitars and horns, and Mick is so far out in front of the mix that he sounds like he's performing on a different stage.
And Keith's botched SFTD solo is still skillfully excised.
Yeah, the solo is longer than on the edited release, but it sounds inaudible and chopped up at the beginning, which is when he screwed it up. The second half of the solo (which was on the edited release) is actually quite good.Quote
deardoctor
I listened to sympathy for the devil: the out of key-solo is still audible, but far in the back. There is another guitar durinf the same time much louder, maybe ronnie. So its really uncut, but kinda polished.
On the other side, the dysfunctional harp in the beginning of virginia is loud and clear...
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deardoctor
Heartbreaker: I never thought that I would ever say this: chuck is not loud enough in this song. I prever the mix of the boot.
I guess with Chuck's keyboards, it's a case of, "you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone." He is almost inaudible at times.Quote
bleedingman
Thanks to all for the reviews. This was the first one I've held off on and reading them makes me glad I did. Pass.
Chuck too low in the mix? You mean there's no "ONE!, TWO!, ONE TWO THREE FOUR!!!"? Definite pass.
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frankotero
Hmm, I'm wondering what all the fuss is about. To my ears and eyes this is an improvement over existing bootleg audio and video. Plus it's cheaper than those to my memory. Someone mentioned maybe in another thread about how The Stones never seemed to care for their legacy by using quality methods. Maybe this is the answer? Anyhow I'm pleased with the bluray and looking forward to the Tokyo release, which I believe will be a stronger showing. My two cents.