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Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by: eduardoacdc ()
Date: November 16, 2018 12:43

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StonedRambler
There is a strange background sound on the whole CD when the band ia not playing and the audience sounds really phasey and weird.

Yep, I noticed that too.

Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by: ironbelly ()
Date: November 16, 2018 12:48

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maumau
Shame on Amazon Italia, they have just changed my order from "delivering today" to "possible delivering december 24..." eye popping smiley

Falsely claimed the Bluray+2CD pack as available..

If they have told me even as late as yesterday I could have changed my order and still receive the bluray alone in time for the week end..

bad bad bad
FNAC in Portugal also announced a delay for 1 or 2 weeks for all formats.

But they had on the shelves 50th anniversary The Beatles (White Album) 2 days prior the official release date. GRRRR!!!!!!

Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: November 16, 2018 13:05


Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by: tomcasagranda ()
Date: November 16, 2018 13:18

HMV are having a special needs moment; I pre-ordered 3 weeks' ago, and it's status is held up. Deep joy !

Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by: runrudolph ()
Date: November 16, 2018 14:22

Got my copy today.gonna listen to it later today.
Jeroen

Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Date: November 16, 2018 14:24

On my way to the record store now. I have the bootleg cd and the official VHS, but, heck, it's the Stones! smoking smiley

Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by: tomcasagranda ()
Date: November 16, 2018 14:28

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corriecas
Got my copy today.gonna listen to it later today.
Jeroen

Is it 2cd format by any chance, because there's a significant pig's breakfast on this ?

Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by: runrudolph ()
Date: November 16, 2018 14:38

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corriecas
Got my copy today.gonna listen to it later today.
Jeroen

Is it 2cd format by any chance, because there's a significant pig's breakfast on this ?

Yeah, its the 2cd/dvd format.
Jeroen

Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by: tomcasagranda ()
Date: November 16, 2018 14:39

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corriecas
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corriecas
Got my copy today.gonna listen to it later today.
Jeroen

Is it 2cd format by any chance, because there's a significant pig's breakfast on this ?

Yeah, its the 2cd/dvd format.
Jeroen

How the Hell did you get that today ? HMV are Mongs

Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by: frankotero ()
Date: November 16, 2018 15:08

Strange, yesterday in Germany I was told no BLURAY-CD combination. Today I bought it in Media Markt. Can't get the video bitrate but I can say it's 42 GB compared to the 7.5 GB on the DVD. I'm happy!

Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by: floodonthepage ()
Date: November 16, 2018 16:24

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StonedRambler
There is a strange background sound on the whole CD when the band ia not playing and the audience sounds really phasey and weird.

That happens on my "Tokyo Dome 1990 - From the Vault" CDs too.

Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by: runrudolph ()
Date: November 16, 2018 16:25

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tomcasagranda
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corriecas
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corriecas
Got my copy today.gonna listen to it later today.
Jeroen

Is it 2cd format by any chance, because there's a significant pig's breakfast on this ?

Yeah, its the 2cd/dvd format.
Jeroen

How the Hell did you get that today ? HMV are Mongs

Www.bol.com.and i live in Holland.
Jeroen

Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Date: November 16, 2018 16:46

Keith's guitar intro on The Worst is panned to the left speaker!

Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by: StonedRambler ()
Date: November 16, 2018 17:01

Man, why don't they let Bob Clearmountain do the mixes anymore. Saving costs? Bob Clearmountain knows how to mix the Stones but this Sam Wheat does quite mediocre mixes in my opinion. Compare VL Uncut to Totally Stripped, that's a difference like day and night. And this way the same tour with the same miking, so the raw recording should around the same quality. This phasey weid audience sound on VL Uncut isn't even there on the Broadcast so the Engineer definitely messed up there. Apart from the general muddiness. If you don't hear that it's muddy, your ears probably can't hear the high frequencies well anymore. An frequency spectrum analyzer shows that there's not much above 15Khz on this release.

Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by: GivenToFly15 ()
Date: November 16, 2018 17:23

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StonedRambler
Compare VL Uncut to Totally Stripped, that's a difference like day and night.

Not a big fan of VL Uncut, but Totally Stripped is not such a good mix. Just compare the Stripped version of Angie with the mix of the same song on Totally Stripped (Olympia) : it is awfully bad.

Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by: StonedRambler ()
Date: November 16, 2018 17:35

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GivenToFly15
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StonedRambler
Compare VL Uncut to Totally Stripped, that's a difference like day and night.

Not a big fan of VL Uncut, but Totally Stripped is not such a good mix. Just compare the Stripped version of Angie with the mix of the same song on Totally Stripped (Olympia) : it is awfully bad.
Well, it's much more reverb on Totally Stripped than on Stripped because Stripped was mixed very dry to fit to the other songs from the studio sessions. In recent years they mixed many live albums with a lot of reverb and I even contacted Bob Clearmountain when SF Live came out and he wrote that Mick wanted it to sound that way. I think that's just a thing of preference. I really like those mixes when listening with headphones, not so much with speakers. But muddiness and phase cancellations that you can hear in VL Uncut are not a thing of preference. These are just signs of bad work.

Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by: ironbelly ()
Date: November 16, 2018 17:37

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StonedRambler
Man, why don't they let Bob Clearmountain do the mixes anymore. Saving costs? Bob Clearmountain knows how to mix the Stones but this Sam Wheat does quite mediocre mixes in my opinion. Compare VL Uncut to Totally Stripped, that's a difference like day and night. And this way the same tour with the same miking, so the raw recording should around the same quality. This phasey weid audience sound on VL Uncut isn't even there on the Broadcast so the Engineer definitely messed up there. Apart from the general muddiness. If you don't hear that it's muddy, your ears probably can't hear the high frequencies well anymore. An frequency spectrum analyzer shows that there's not much above 15Khz on this release.
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StonedRambler
There is a strange background sound on the whole CD when the band ia not playing and the audience sounds really phasey and weird.

That happens on my "Tokyo Dome 1990 - From the Vault" CDs too.

Slow down, guys! It seems that you are already at point #6
1. This is going to be the greatest thing ever!
2. I can't wait, look at that tracklisting!
3. I have pre-ordered 3 sets! (2 to be kept sealed)
4. It shipped!
5. Even better than I thought it was going to be!
6. It sucks.
7. A missed opportunity.
8. Looking forward to the 60th anniversary set.
But I do not have mine because there is a delay with the release here!
Encomenda ao editor, entrega em 1 a 2 semanas

Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by: runrudolph ()
Date: November 16, 2018 19:01

just watched the DVD. its good, really liked it. The Robert Cray and Bo Diddley bits wre fun. skipped Sheryl Crow, dont like her.
and Lisa.. yeah.. Im not gonna talk about Lisa.

She is so sexxy... so very beautiful..so ..
I want to marry her.

jeroen

Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by: glimmertwin1 ()
Date: November 16, 2018 19:09

I have streamed the whole concert from google play music and I really liked the mix so far hot smiley

My CD/DVD package arrived too ! Will check later.

So far the "best" sound for me of all these new From the Vaults, Deluxe ... releases.

foobar2000 1.4 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
log date: 2018-11-16 15:45:16

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Analyzed: The Rolling Stones / Voodoo Lounge Uncut
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR10 -0.22 dB -15.26 dB 1:43 01-Whoopi Goldberg Intro
DR9 -0.22 dB -12.51 dB 4:19 02-Not Fade Away
DR9 -0.22 dB -11.29 dB 4:49 03-Tumbling Dice
DR10 -0.22 dB -11.74 dB 3:56 04-You Got Me Rocking
DR8 -0.22 dB -10.47 dB 5:26 05-Rocks Off
DR9 -0.22 dB -10.57 dB 4:11 06-Sparks Will Fly
DR9 -0.22 dB -12.01 dB 5:01 07-Live With Me
DR8 -0.22 dB -10.27 dB 6:50 08-(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
DR11 -0.22 dB -13.43 dB 5:46 09-Beast Of Burden
DR13 -0.21 dB -16.03 dB 4:14 10-Angie
DR12 -0.21 dB -14.42 dB 4:11 11-Dead Flowers
DR11 -0.22 dB -14.36 dB 5:48 12-Sweet Virginia
DR10 -0.22 dB -11.70 dB 4:00 13-Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)
DR10 -0.22 dB -12.61 dB 4:38 14-It's All Over Now
DR10 -0.22 dB -12.23 dB 5:34 15-Stop Breakin' Down Blues
DR8 -0.22 dB -9.91 dB 4:23 16-Who Do You Love?
DR9 -0.22 dB -10.96 dB 7:29 17-I Go Wild
DR9 -0.22 dB -12.42 dB 13:36 18-Miss You
DR9 0.00 dB -11.30 dB 4:39 19-Honky Tonk Women
DR8 -0.02 dB -10.98 dB 4:43 20-Before They Make Me Run
DR13 -2.65 dB -19.29 dB 3:27 21-The Worst
DR9 -0.22 dB -11.43 dB 6:25 22-Sympathy For The Devil
DR9 -0.22 dB -11.78 dB 4:27 23-Monkey Man
DR8 -0.22 dB -10.41 dB 5:11 24-Street Fighting Man
DR8 -0.22 dB -10.21 dB 4:27 25-Start Me Up
DR8 -0.22 dB -10.10 dB 5:19 26-It's Only Rock'n'Roll (But I Like It)
DR7 -0.22 dB -8.42 dB 6:18 27-Brown Sugar
DR7 -0.22 dB -9.08 dB 6:15 28-Jumpin' Jack Flash
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Number of tracks: 28
Official DR value: DR9

Samplerate: 44100 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 16
Bitrate: 864 kbps
Codec: FLAC
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Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by: glimmertwin1 ()
Date: November 16, 2018 19:19

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StonedRambler
There is a strange background sound on the whole CD when the band ia not playing and the audience sounds really phasey and weird.

Still better than Ladies & Gentlemen ...

Honestly not really noticeable for me. Will check the CDs tomorrow.

Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by: mnewman505 ()
Date: November 16, 2018 19:45

Listening to the streaming version for now at work via Amazon music...

Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by: glimmertwin1 ()
Date: November 16, 2018 20:24

Micks voice is distorted at times ... are all sound engineers deaf nowadays ?

Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by: keefriff99 ()
Date: November 16, 2018 20:46

Just picked it up at lunch and listened to some of the CD on the drive back to work.

The mix is definitely weird...the drums sound better than on the old VHS mix, but the guitars and horns are less prominent now, and the crowd sound does have a weird unnatural sound to it.

Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by: hockenheim95 ()
Date: November 16, 2018 20:46

The Sound is so goddamn bad and the audience Sounds Like millions of Ants. The Band Intros are unlistenable. What a bullshit.

Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by: mnewman505 ()
Date: November 16, 2018 20:48

I prefer the Wolfgang's Vault steaming version over this official release.

[www.wolfgangs.com]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-11-16 20:53 by mnewman505.

Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by: keefriff99 ()
Date: November 16, 2018 21:04

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hockenheim95
The Sound is so goddamn bad and the audience Sounds Like millions of Ants. The Band Intros are unlistenable. What a bullshit.
I need to listen to the entire thing (only managed to listen to Not Fade Away, Tumblin' Dice and Satisfaction) but I may share your opinion.

I almost felt like I had cotton in my ears while listening in my car. The frequencies highlighted are really screwy.

Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by: TheGreek ()
Date: November 16, 2018 21:08

Why is Bob Clearmountain not behind the board ?

Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by: TooTough ()
Date: November 16, 2018 21:09

The guitar sound is shitty, like on the bootlegs that once came out.

Crow, Cray, Bo - great!

Live with Me is really fast,
so is Satisfaction in the middle.
A great move to put it there.
The acoustic set is very fine.

But the Voodoo Lounge inflatables are beyond desription.
The look hurts today even more than back then.

The crowd is lame.

Anyway, a great show!

Btw: The Giants Stadium bonus...I´m in the crowd somewhere smiling bouncing smiley

Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Posted by: keefriff99 ()
Date: November 16, 2018 21:16

It's a great version of Satisfaction...speedy and high energy.

Re: New dvd release: Voodoo Lounge Uncut
Date: November 16, 2018 21:18

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GivenToFly15
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StonedRambler
Compare VL Uncut to Totally Stripped, that's a difference like day and night.

Not a big fan of VL Uncut, but Totally Stripped is not such a good mix. Just compare the Stripped version of Angie with the mix of the same song on Totally Stripped (Olympia) : it is awfully bad.

Not the same versions of Angie, though..

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