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bye bye johnny
Van Halen and shows seems mutually exclusive. Their own website hasn't been updated since 2015.
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GAFF
It's too bad Shidoobee is on life support. I spent 18 years on that board and never saw the kind of toxic and adversarial arguments there that seem to be so prevalent here. I just don't see why some people can't be more civil in their debates with others. Sad sad sad
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Oh dear I am morbidly small giggle San Diego Zip story guy takes his gal first Stones show, and somebody DID pass away next to them (I’m sorry)
they were in seated....
ambulance medics came removed body
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GAFF
It's too bad Shidoobee is on life support. I spent 18 years on that board and never saw the kind of toxic and adversarial arguments there that seem to be so prevalent here. I just don't see why some people can't be more civil in their debates with others. Sad sad sad
Well said Gaff![/quote
Sh...life support? Please fill me in.
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Paddy
I hadn’t been on here in a day or two and saw this thread had grown by 2 pages, I was a tad excited, thought BV might have posted something, alas it’s 2 pages of pissing and moaning with the odd wise word thrown in. Bollocks anyway!
My take on gigs at this point is promoters pester bands with offers, they offer X amount of money and the band says yes. The promoter shafts the punter more than the band. Ticketbastard don’t help either with their fees. The Licky Dip tickets is likely the bands input and idea. The ticket prices are mental, for gigs in general. Guns N Roses VIP tickets cost $1500 and you don’t meet the band. I met Slash for @#$%& all outside a club in Vancouver after a $75 gig. Record sales are dead compared to what they were, rock music has not been the choice of youth since the early 90s. Touring is where the money is now. I was lucky to see The Stones from GC, GA, Seated right down the back, PIT & GC. So every vantage point. The best was right down the back night 2 London. The PIT was LD, GC was LD, sitting full price, GC full price. I got a £400 ticket for £30 (thanks to roadster32) and a GC ticket for £30 (thanks to Lady William)
Live music is not going to get cheaper, the last years of rock music are coming, the last wave of bands like Oasis, Pearl Jam are already entering their 50s. The who, u2, Neil young, Dylan, the stones, it’s all over in 20/25 years. We will be screwed between now and then. Guns N Roses reissued Appetite For Destruction last month and it costs $1000 for the super deluxe version. Gigs are expensive and getting more so... The shirts, Lithos are a new form of extortion, signed CDs, etc etc.
At this point The Stones are the most valuable Rock N Roll band on the planet. They’re still alive and still playing live. A promoters dream.
I expect a guy like Keith Richards is going to mug me and rob me. He carries guns, knives & was a junkie for years. I expect a guy who went to the London School of Economics to rip me off. It what he wanted to learn. How to make money.
This is the world now. Live music as a thing people did at the weekends is long over. I don’t like it, it pisses me off. I saw The Stones in the point depot twice in 03 and it was GA. Whoever wanted to get close queued from early that day. The real fans got to the front. A better system is a pit and the first on the queue gets a wristband. You can go for a piss and get a drink and some food.
The things I remember from the shows I saw earlier this year and other years are the people I met, places I was, people who were with me, sometimes the support act and how good the band was. How great it is to still hear this band play live, and forget about life while they are onstage. That’s worth £30 and more to me.
There’s shite everywhere, sidestep it and move on. We don’t have these guys at whatever price for much longer.
Now I’ve pissed and moaned
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bv
It is the usual story about the "half full" or "half empty" beer glass.
There are millions of Stones fans, and thousands post here on IORR. Some are super positive and see half full beer glasses and opportunities everywhere. Others see the problems and challenges with Stones tours. Money, travel, health, family, time, mixed emotions.
You want to go but you hate to spend time and money on it. May be loving the Stones got into a habit, just like smoking or drinking, the habit stays but you can't understand why you got other priorities. It is natural to be confused.
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keefriff99Springsteen, U2, Metallica...just three standing stadium shows I've been to in the last few years.Quote
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Now that you mention it, I can't think of any stadium shows in the US that have had standing in decades.
Springsteen.
Good to know, and maybe there's hope the Stones will follow suit and get rid of all the unnecessary chairs for the upcoming tour.
If people really need a seat for whatever reason, there's plenty of them available off of the field.
Don't count on the Stones following suit. I think the lack of GA concerts in the US (probably) has something to do w/ insurance costs. Probably costs more for GA insurance-wise....especially b/c over here in the US we love to sue anybody and everybody for everything. Some old geezer dies of heat-stroke in the GA pit and his family will blame it on the venue, the Stones and anybody else they can think of...the lawyers don't give a s__t if the case is valid or not...sue, sue, sue.
Stones will probably say "why pay more for insurance if we don't have to?"
Sad, but true....to reference Metallica.
Disclaimer: No idea if any of this is true, just speculating.
*very interesting (and horrid/ sue sue sue people).
But, a folding chair is okay to heat stroke out?
Oh dear I am morbidly small giggle San Diego Zip story guy takes his gal first Stones show, and somebody DID pass away next to them (I’m sorry)
they were in seated....
ambulance medics came removed body
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reg thorpe
Go ahead, bite the Big Apple, don't mind the maggots
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saltoftheearth
being a Stones fan is not being a fanatic but living with a band for over 40 years with ist ups and downs. They need our critizism as much as they need our adoration. It's as simple as that.
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bv
The tour in Europe this summer gave us some of their best shows. Just read the reports. They toured North America in 2013 and 2015, with a few bonus shows in 2012 and 2016. When they tour North America next year it will be for the first tour in four - 4 - years. I would advice any Stones fans in the area to spend a day and go see them. No Stopping, they say, but we don't know where they will be another four years on. Satisfaction guaranteed.
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bv
The tour in Europe this summer gave us some of their best shows. Just read the reports. They toured North America in 2013 and 2015, with a few bonus shows in 2012 and 2016. When they tour North America next year it will be for the first tour in four - 4 - years. I would advice any Stones fans in the area to spend a day and go see them. No Stopping, they say, but we don't know where they will be another four years on. Satisfaction guaranteed.
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bv
The tour in Europe this summer gave us some of their best shows. Just read the reports. They toured North America in 2013 and 2015, with a few bonus shows in 2012 and 2016. When they tour North America next year it will be for the first tour in four - 4 - years. I would advice any Stones fans in the area to spend a day and go see them. No Stopping, they say, but we don't know where they will be another four years on. Satisfaction guaranteed.
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bv
The tour in Europe this summer gave us some of their best shows. Just read the reports. They toured North America in 2013 and 2015, with a few bonus shows in 2012 and 2016. When they tour North America next year it will be for the first tour in four - 4 - years. I would advice any Stones fans in the area to spend a day and go see them. No Stopping, they say, but we don't know where they will be another four years on. Satisfaction guaranteed.
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bv
The tour in Europe this summer gave us some of their best shows. Just read the reports. They toured North America in 2013 and 2015, with a few bonus shows in 2012 and 2016. When they tour North America next year it will be for the first tour in four - 4 - years. I would advice any Stones fans in the area to spend a day and go see them. No Stopping, they say, but we don't know where they will be another four years on. Satisfaction guaranteed.
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bv
The tour in Europe this summer gave us some of their best shows. Just read the reports. They toured North America in 2013 and 2015, with a few bonus shows in 2012 and 2016. When they tour North America next year it will be for the first tour in four - 4 - years. I would advice any Stones fans in the area to spend a day and go see them. No Stopping, they say, but we don't know where they will be another four years on. Satisfaction guaranteed.
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SomeTorontoGirl
Hoping we Canucks get a good handful of dates this time. My wallet would sure appreciate it! Also hoping to lure another wicked little international band here for a club gig...
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bv
The tour in Europe this summer gave us some of their best shows. Just read the reports. They toured North America in 2013 and 2015, with a few bonus shows in 2012 and 2016. When they tour North America next year it will be for the first tour in four - 4 - years. I would advice any Stones fans in the area to spend a day and go see them. No Stopping, they say, but we don't know where they will be another four years on. Satisfaction guaranteed.
Hoping we Canucks get a good handful of dates this time. My wallet would sure appreciate it! Also hoping to lure another wicked little international band here for a club gig...
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Nate
I certainly hope you get some shows as I would love to attend as I’m banned from entering Trumps backyard.
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35love
Oh dear I am morbidly small giggle San Diego Zip story guy takes his gal first Stones show, and somebody DID pass away next to them (I’m sorry)
they were in seated....
ambulance medics came removed body
Outrageous. If I die at a Stones show, please prop me up until the final bows - need to get my money's worth.
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bv
The tour in Europe this summer gave us some of their best shows. Just read the reports. They toured North America in 2013 and 2015, with a few bonus shows in 2012 and 2016. When they tour North America next year it will be for the first tour in four - 4 - years. I would advice any Stones fans in the area to spend a day and go see them. No Stopping, they say, but we don't know where they will be another four years on.
Satisfaction guaranteed.
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potus43
Tour announced Nov-Dec my sources confirmed
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Tour announced Nov-Dec my sources confirmed
While it is sounding more likely that the US could be next, I'm still holding onto hope that Australia is also on the cards. If an announcement were made in November that would be 5 years to the month when the 14 on Fire Australian leg was announced (with the shows originally planned for March).
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bye bye johnny
Van Halen and shows seems mutually exclusive. Their own website hasn't been updated since 2015.
I follow Van Halen News Desk.
Anything current that happens is on there, and lotsa good flashbacks for the history books!