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crholmstrom
I saw a show at Century Link in Seattle in early-mid October toward the end of the Bigger Bang tour. Somewhat risky timing in Seattle but we totally lucked out. It was sweatshirt cold by the time the Stones came on. Not bad. Perfect football weather as we say around here. The worm can turn though. Here's a vid of Neil Young at the Gorge in September in Washington state. It was Neil vs God!
video: [www.youtube.com]
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crholmstrom
I saw a show at Century Link in Seattle in early-mid October toward the end of the Bigger Bang tour. Somewhat risky timing in Seattle but we totally lucked out. It was sweatshirt cold by the time the Stones came on. Not bad. Perfect football weather as we say around here. The worm can turn though. Here's a vid of Neil Young at the Gorge in September in Washington state. It was Neil vs God!
video: [www.youtube.com]
Was at that concert at Quest Field..
Seattle in late October would be pretty safe weather wise most any year (born and raised), while east of the mountains would not be most any year
Not to be too repetitive, but I would honestly be shocked if Seattle and/or Vancouver didn't make the list for the upcoming tour. With a combined "greater" population of nearly 7 million, and having not hosted them since 2006/07, I think one or both cities are sure bets this time around.
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Testify
I do not know if it has already been published, nor is it reliable, anyway ...
[www.jambase.com]
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PalaisRoyale
The Mini tours have been 14 shows for some time. If they feel confident about the new album would cracking the 20 show barrier be out of reach? The large cities such as NY, Chicago, Boston could get two shows. Given the circumstances, when will the Stones have this opportunity again to showcase a new album and tour in North America?
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PalaisRoyale
The Mini tours have been 14 shows for some time. If they feel confident about the new album would cracking the 20 show barrier be out of reach? The large cities such as NY, Chicago, Boston could get two shows. Given the circumstances, when will the Stones have this opportunity again to showcase a new album and tour in North America?
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PalaisRoyale
The Mini tours have been 14 shows for some time. If they feel confident about the new album would cracking the 20 show barrier be out of reach? The large cities such as NY, Chicago, Boston could get two shows. Given the circumstances, when will the Stones have this opportunity again to showcase a new album and tour in North America?
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Kurt
The Packers have a home game on Sunday...
Anyone in Green Bay?
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bv
May be they will do 14 shows East Coast now and then 14 shows phase two later, like they did Europe I and Europe II during 2017 and 2018, in 10 months time. We will see. It seems they have all dates prepared, many dates are for sure optional in case of slow sales, like they replaced Philly-3 with Washington in 2013, or the Manchester/Coventry/Southampton swaps this year. The core tour list should be ready by now, it is up to them when they announce the tour.
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jumpontopofmebaby
So possibly 2 mini tours. East then West
What is the dividing line.
To me Denver and Dallas are more West.
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bv
May be they will do 14 shows East Coast now. It seems they have all dates prepared, it is up to them when they announce the tour.
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DEmerson
And yet, Elton John just announced UK dates for 2020! And he's no spring chicken either. (Just saw him this week, and he was great BTW).
So why do all these other acts announce shows a year or more ahead of time, but the Stones (who probably MAKE more money per show than most anyone) have to leave it until the last minute?
With the banner teasers being dropped here in Nov., I'm wondering if maybe, from a pure business standpoint, that perhaps interest rates are up, and so they've decided the it's now worth announcing the tour sooner, and that extra interest $ with having the money sitting in the bank, now outweighs any risk?
Obviously, the Stones and their team know what they're doing. Tour announcements only weeks ahead of the dates do make things challenging though for us fans who want to try and plan travel in advance.
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bv
There are many reasons why they just play 14 shows or so per year, and announcing these shows just 2-3 months ahead of the tour start.
First of all a tour is a giant financial investment. On average, the income from a Stones show is usd 8 millon. With a tour of 14 shows that is more than 100 million us dollars. The insurance cost of such a tour will be depending on how far ahead the tour is anounced, and tickets are sold, also how many shows they will play.
If they announce 30 shows then they have to book insurance for more than 200 millon usd. IOf they announce half a year in advance it cost more than announcing 2-3 month ahead.
They may run teasers and stuff that do not tie up money or legal stuff, but once they sign the contract for a tour, the insurance is valid, and the cost is ticking.
May be the insurance companies have been impressed by the energy and the history of the Stones touring since 2012, after all they should be impressed. So may be they will accept better terms when announcing 4-5 months ahead. Still, they are simply bean counters, they work on risk. This is a band average age in the 70's. May be they lost just two shows, Hunter Valley and LV-2016, plus the Australian tour first time around, but they look at risk, and we will not see tours with 30 or 50 or 100 shows anymore.
May be they will do 14 shows East Coast now and then 14 shows phase two later, like they did Europe I and Europe II during 2017 and 2018, in 10 months time. We will see. It seems they have all dates prepared, many dates are for sure optional in case of slow sales, like they replaced Philly-3 with Washington in 2013, or the Manchester/Coventry/Southampton swaps this year. The core tour list should be ready by now, it is up to them when they announce the tour.
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bv
Please note that the press is reading IORR and spinning off stories, without references, pretending to be scooping stories. Then they add stuff that they invent on their own. Except for the EP stuff in Uk press, I would say that most of the news these days are second source variations of what is written here on IORR first hand. Don't take press info as confirmations, they are just copycats without proper references to IORR.