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keithsman
Jeez we are all guilty of that Rocky, most of us are still seeing the Stones live because we can't get over how good they were between 67' to 74' about 90% of live shows rest heavenly on the past.
Lets be honest, creatively , music, film and comedy will never be what it was, not in this mainstream must make maximum profit environment, on top of that the political correctness restricts comedy subject matter immensely on all levels.
When i think of films like One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest, that film wouldn't have a chance to be made today for cinema release, films now have to have maximum appeal, that incredible film was about a man in a mental hospital, but is was so much more than that, it showed you can't beat the system, it's all a game and it's rigged was the message.
I find myself going over old episodes of Fawlty Towers for laughs, those comedy series would never be aired today, far too politically incorrect.
Nothing wrong with Johnny Depp loving and hankering for the past, i don't watch TV, refuse to buy a licence, haven't for years on principle, all these 24 hour news channels, so depressing, indoctrinating mind control at it's worse.
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keithsman
Jeez we are all guilty of that Rocky, most of us are still seeing the Stones live because we can't get over how good they were between 67' to 74' about 90% of live shows rest heavenly on the past.
Lets be honest, creatively , music, film and comedy will never be what it was, not in this mainstream must make maximum profit environment, on top of that the political correctness restricts comedy subject matter immensely on all levels.
When i think of films like One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest, that film wouldn't have a chance to be made today for cinema release, films now have to have maximum appeal, that incredible film was about a man in a mental hospital, but is was so much more than that, it showed you can't beat the system, it's all a game and it's rigged was the message.
I find myself going over old episodes of Fawlty Towers for laughs, those comedy series would never be aired today, far too politically incorrect.
Nothing wrong with Johnny Depp loving and hankering for the past, i don't watch TV, refuse to buy a licence, haven't for years on principle, all these 24 hour news channels, so depressing, indoctrinating mind control at it's worse.
We're on the same side, Keithsman. My point was the exploitative journalist seems a fair bit more worse to me than the rather sad figure of Johnny Depp apparently circling the abyss. I hope he bounces back, cleans up, and gets on his feet.
As for political correctness, growing up in the same era as you, I resented censorship of music and film and books. I had zero interest in Salman Rushdie, but I knew which side I stood on when it came to THE SATANIC VERSES. I never would have dreamed Western Liberalism, with all its desire for freedom of expression, would fall prey to being bluenoses from a different direction. I watched it turn 180 degrees from church ladies and moral majority and mothers against music for young people (maybe Tipper Gore should have "tipped" me off) to watching people that fight for tolerance and an end to bigotry turning around and neutering comedy unless it is lowest common denominator and fighting for greater censorship than my parents' generation ever knew (and they grew up during WWII).
Anyway, as Ray Davies said, "It gets worse the older that you get."
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You go to any ‘No Filter 2’ Rockman?
More than anything I wanted a new Stones album …..
But No Filter ..... no 35 ….. I pulled back but who knows theres still a chance
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Watchin Johnny interviews over the last few years I often
find meself asking … Will The Real Johnny Please Stand-Up....
A million scarves.... 50 rings on each hand …..belts ...skulls ... the drawl
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keithsman
Jeez we are all guilty of that Rocky, most of us are still seeing the Stones live because we can't get over how good they were between 67' to 74' about 90% of live shows rest heavenly on the past.
Lets be honest, creatively , music, film and comedy will never be what it was, not in this mainstream must make maximum profit environment, on top of that the political correctness restricts comedy subject matter immensely on all levels.
When i think of films like One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest, that film wouldn't have a chance to be made today for cinema release, films now have to have maximum appeal, that incredible film was about a man in a mental hospital, but is was so much more than that, it showed you can't beat the system, it's all a game and it's rigged was the message.
I find myself going over old episodes of Fawlty Towers for laughs, those comedy series would never be aired today, far too politically incorrect.
Nothing wrong with Johnny Depp loving and hankering for the past, i don't watch TV, refuse to buy a licence, haven't for years on principle, all these 24 hour news channels, so depressing, indoctrinating mind control at it's worse.
We're on the same side, Keithsman. My point was the exploitative journalist seems a fair bit more worse to me than the rather sad figure of Johnny Depp apparently circling the abyss. I hope he bounces back, cleans up, and gets on his feet.
As for political correctness, growing up in the same era as you, I resented censorship of music and film and books. I had zero interest in Salman Rushdie, but I knew which side I stood on when it came to THE SATANIC VERSES. I never would have dreamed Western Liberalism, with all its desire for freedom of expression, would fall prey to being bluenoses from a different direction. I watched it turn 180 degrees from church ladies and moral majority and mothers against music for young people (maybe Tipper Gore should have "tipped" me off) to watching people that fight for tolerance and an end to bigotry turning around and neutering comedy unless it is lowest common denominator and fighting for greater censorship than my parents' generation ever knew (and they grew up during WWII).
Anyway, as Ray Davies said, "It gets worse the older that you get."
I hear you Rocky, definitely on the same side, and i didn't mean to sound annoyed with you for saying Johnny was living in the past, i realize you were reflecting the view of the Rolling Stone journalist.
Not to get too political but yes i agree with all the above, Ronald Reagan once said if fascism ever raises its ugly head again it will come in the name of liberalism, and that's whats beginning to happen in the western world today.
Back to Depp, i'm not sure he is an alcoholic, that's rather like saying Keith is an alcoholic, they are both looking good on it if you ask me, Depp is the wrong side of 50 and doesn't have a line on his face, Keith is almost 75 and still performing two hour stadium Rock. Rather they are drinkers who at bad times in life turn to the booze more than usual.
According to many Americans you're an alcoholic if you go out on a Saturday night and sink 6 beers. That's nats piss to the average Brit on the piss
Its part of our culture, stems from ridiculous licensing laws from when we were in our teens and 20's, we used to get as many beers in as possible before last orders at 11. It causes binge drinking, i'm happy to say i don't drink these days, realized i'm not Keith Richards, finally grew up, don't think even Keith Richards is Keith Richards these days.
Who is that agreeable cheerful old man up their on stage playing Keith's guitars. he looks like him but he certainly don't move like him.
You realize the Gores were conservative Southern Democrats back in the '80s, and the whole ridiculous PMRC was made up of two Democratic women and two Republican women.Quote
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keithsman
Jeez we are all guilty of that Rocky, most of us are still seeing the Stones live because we can't get over how good they were between 67' to 74' about 90% of live shows rest heavenly on the past.
Lets be honest, creatively , music, film and comedy will never be what it was, not in this mainstream must make maximum profit environment, on top of that the political correctness restricts comedy subject matter immensely on all levels.
When i think of films like One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest, that film wouldn't have a chance to be made today for cinema release, films now have to have maximum appeal, that incredible film was about a man in a mental hospital, but is was so much more than that, it showed you can't beat the system, it's all a game and it's rigged was the message.
I find myself going over old episodes of Fawlty Towers for laughs, those comedy series would never be aired today, far too politically incorrect.
Nothing wrong with Johnny Depp loving and hankering for the past, i don't watch TV, refuse to buy a licence, haven't for years on principle, all these 24 hour news channels, so depressing, indoctrinating mind control at it's worse.
We're on the same side, Keithsman. My point was the exploitative journalist seems a fair bit more worse to me than the rather sad figure of Johnny Depp apparently circling the abyss. I hope he bounces back, cleans up, and gets on his feet.
As for political correctness, growing up in the same era as you, I resented censorship of music and film and books. I had zero interest in Salman Rushdie, but I knew which side I stood on when it came to THE SATANIC VERSES. I never would have dreamed Western Liberalism, with all its desire for freedom of expression, would fall prey to being bluenoses from a different direction. I watched it turn 180 degrees from church ladies and moral majority and mothers against music for young people (maybe Tipper Gore should have "tipped" me off) to watching people that fight for tolerance and an end to bigotry turning around and neutering comedy unless it is lowest common denominator and fighting for greater censorship than my parents' generation ever knew (and they grew up during WWII).
Anyway, as Ray Davies said, "It gets worse the older that you get."
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ROPENI
I read the article and is very sad,people liKe Johnny and Keith have lots of talent for their craft but somehow they are always surrounded by leechers and enablers and they never seem to can or want to get rid of them,l mean it took Keith to fall of that tree to get his act together or so it seems,maybe J.D will have a similar Epiphany that will set him straight,l hope so otherwise his demons will get the best of him,I met Johnny one time when he was here in Puerto Rico filming "The Rum Diary" they were shooting in the parking lot of one my business,and he was very nice,humble and shy,actually l gave him one of my cd's a Keith compilation and a T shirt from my restaurant,it was a brief encounter,but super cool,hope he makes it thru all the shit he is going thru....
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I really can't @#$%& stand this place sometimes.
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I read the article and is very sad,people liKe Johnny and Keith have lots of talent for their craft but somehow they are always surrounded by leechers and enablers and they never seem to can or want to get rid of them,l mean it took Keith to fall of that tree to get his act together or so it seems,maybe J.D will have a similar Epiphany that will set him straight,l hope so otherwise his demons will get the best of him,I met Johnny one time when he was here in Puerto Rico filming "The Rum Diary" they were shooting in the parking lot of one my business,and he was very nice,humble and shy,actually l gave him one of my cd's a Keith compilation and a T shirt from my restaurant,it was a brief encounter,but super cool,hope he makes it thru all the shit he is going thru....
On the contrary, Keith went completely off the rails after the tree incident, he became completely consumed by alcohol after that accident, look at some of the live footage during 06' 07'
For personal reasons he nearly lost everything dear to him in 07' but incredibly his epiphany came shortly after in 08' i'm very pleased to say, or he wouldn't be with us today.
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stonehearted
On the matter of Johnny Depp, his personal business/problems are his own business.
Never been a fan of his, although I did think he was good in Ed Wood -- but then everyone in that film was great, including and especially Martin Landau...
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Leonioid
I have always been amazed at his REAL acting... I think one of our generations best.
He actually acts ... unlike so many hollywood players these days, who dont really act, they just do what they are... I mean Bruce Willis plays a great Bruce Willis and Stallone is a great Stallone... etc etc...
and then there are those types like Ben AFFLACK!... who play every role, says every line, like he is eating Sunday dinner at his parents... I am at a loss for how he ever got work (I assume he was good on the casting couch)
Compare and contrast those people to Depp...
Depp disappears into so many roles.. at least he used to. I havew not seen much of his recent work. You mention Ed Wood, he was perfect in that... but add to it Pirates, Willy Wonka, Tonto, Blow, The Mad Hatter, Ichabod Crane, Raoul Duke, Donnie Brasco and so many more roles. Watching him in those movies I didn't see Depp... I saw acting, amazing acting.
I could not care less about his BS with Keef... or his woman troubles that gave him such bad publicity and cost him millions... that is all... who knows... Not me.
Now I see him out rocking with Alice and Joe... and living the life. And I saw good for him.
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Leonioid
I have always been amazed at his REAL acting... I think one of our generations best.
He actually acts ... unlike so many hollywood players these days, who dont really act, they just do what they are... I mean Bruce Willis plays a great Bruce Willis and Stallone is a great Stallone... etc etc...
and then there are those types like Ben AFFLACK!... who play every role, says every line, like he is eating Sunday dinner at his parents... I am at a loss for how he ever got work (I assume he was good on the casting couch)
Compare and contrast those people to Depp...
Depp disappears into so many roles.. at least he used to. I havew not seen much of his recent work. You mention Ed Wood, he was perfect in that... but add to it Pirates, Willy Wonka, Tonto, Blow, The Mad Hatter, Ichabod Crane, Raoul Duke, Donnie Brasco and so many more roles. Watching him in those movies I didn't see Depp... I saw acting, amazing acting.
I could not care less about his BS with Keef... or his woman troubles that gave him such bad publicity and cost him millions... that is all... who knows... Not me.
Now I see him out rocking with Alice and Joe... and living the life. And I saw good for him.
Well yes, I have to agree with you there. As far as disappearing into a character and acting so that you see the character and not the actor, as opposed to, say, Jack Nicholson, who is also great by the way in his own way, then yes, Johnny Depp has great talent.
Come to think of it, I also very much enjoyed Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.
Well, I like some of his early stuff, but like Stephen King, he kind of became a brand along the way.
Hope he recovers from this apparent dark period, and rediscovers what made him great to begin with -- not being seen with certain people, or becoming a cartoon figure of self-destruction a la Dee Dee Ramone, but just being great at making film characters come alive.
And he should forget about the rock-n-roll wannabe stuff with Alice and Joe.
Actors wannabe musicians, and musicians wannabe actors -- hell, in one 1976 interview, Charlie Watts even said he wanted to be a writer.
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dcba
Yeah that's my idea too. "If I ever hear you beat up your old lady I don't know you man". This is the Keith policy and it goes back to Brian Jones.
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I read the article and is very sad,people liKe Johnny and Keith have lots of talent for their craft but somehow they are always surrounded by leechers and enablers and they never seem to can or want to get rid of them,l mean it took Keith to fall of that tree to get his act together or so it seems,maybe J.D will have a similar Epiphany that will set him straight,l hope so otherwise his demons will get the best of him,I met Johnny one time when he was here in Puerto Rico filming "The Rum Diary" they were shooting in the parking lot of one my business,and he was very nice,humble and shy,actually l gave him one of my cd's a Keith compilation and a T shirt from my restaurant,it was a brief encounter,but super cool,hope he makes it thru all the shit he is going thru....
On the contrary, Keith went completely off the rails after the tree incident, he became completely consumed by alcohol after that accident, look at some of the live footage during 06' 07'
For personal reasons he nearly lost everything dear to him in 07' but incredibly his epiphany came shortly after in 08' i'm very pleased to say, or he wouldn't be with us today.
Keith was put on heavy duty medicine after his brain surgery.
That is why his imbalance during the remaining 2006/2007 tour.
That inclusive Patty's breast cancer.
He was in bad shape facing "brain treatment" and wife's cancer problems.
Not severe alcohol problems as people write here.
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dcba
Yeah that's my idea too. "If I ever hear you beat up your old lady I don't know you man". This is the Keith policy and it goes back to Brian Jones.
So, Keith doesn't know himself then? Or many of his musical heroes?