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Slightly OT: Why Modern Music Is Awful
Posted by: drewmaster ()
Date: June 12, 2018 17:06

[www.youtube.com]

Very interesting what he says up till the idea that listeners can be brainwashed into liking bad music by constantly hearing the same song, and by implication that good music is instantly likeable. Sometimes the best music is very complicated and takes a long time -- many, many listenings -- to appreciate.

Drew

Re: Slightly OT: Why Modern Music Is Awful
Posted by: BluzDude ()
Date: June 12, 2018 20:18

Modern music is awful because the guitar solos have (all but) disappearedsmoking smiley

Re: Slightly OT: Why Modern Music Is Awful
Posted by: ThePaleRider ()
Date: June 12, 2018 22:09

Bands don't sit around in a studio all night composing songs and lyrics on actual instruments...with a bottle of jJck in the corner. Wasn't the best rock music created in a basement somewhere in France?

Re: Slightly OT: Why Modern Music Is Awful
Posted by: Ladykiller ()
Date: June 12, 2018 23:01

Modern Music Is NOT Awful. You listen to the wrong bands. Today, we have still great artists, but they are not famous. They play in clubs for 50 - 200 people.


Check out for example The Lazys from Australia.

Re: Slightly OT: Why Modern Music Is Awful
Posted by: stonehearted ()
Date: June 12, 2018 23:53

As with life itself, music appreciation is a subjective experience.

Re: Slightly OT: Why Modern Music Is Awful
Posted by: NICOS ()
Date: June 13, 2018 00:00

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BluzDude
Modern music is awful because the guitar solos have (all but) disappearedsmoking smiley
And all the voices sounds the same to me

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Re: Slightly OT: Why Modern Music Is Awful
Posted by: Deltics ()
Date: June 13, 2018 00:10

I gave up at "algorithms". Do computers have better ears than people?
Why compare Justin Bieber with The Beatles?
Why not with Dave Dee, Dozy, Mick and Tich who were one of the best selling singles acts in the UK from 1966-68?
Good music is still (and always will be) out there, but in this day and age with so much available you have to trust your ears.


"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"

Re: Slightly OT: Why Modern Music Is Awful
Posted by: buttons67 ()
Date: June 13, 2018 01:39

my ears tell me modern music is crap.

and i believe them.

basically people can believe what they want if they think theres a good enough reason to.

Re: Slightly OT: Why Modern Music Is Awful
Posted by: Maindefender ()
Date: June 13, 2018 02:09

Quote
Ladykiller
Modern Music Is NOT Awful. You listen to the wrong bands. Today, we have still great artists, but they are not famous. They play in clubs for 50 - 200 people.


Check out for example The Lazys from Australia.

Totally agree with you..thumbs up DIY creative artists are out there, making new music and playing their new songs live. Ticket prices and atmosphere are fantastic.

Re: Slightly OT: Why Modern Music Is Awful
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: June 13, 2018 02:17

Check out Amyl & The Sniffers live .......RAW STUFF and youll laugh AND love

ROCKMAN

Re: Slightly OT: Why Modern Music Is Awful
Posted by: Koen ()
Date: June 13, 2018 04:48

Quote
Ladykiller
Modern Music Is NOT Awful. You listen to the wrong bands. Today, we have still great artists, but they are not famous. They play in clubs for 50 - 200 people.

Exactly.

Go see bands at your local pub and let them surprise you. Stop listening to the same sjit in the radio.

Re: Slightly OT: Why Modern Music Is Awful
Posted by: ryanpow ()
Date: June 13, 2018 06:48

Now more than ever music is a "product", and that's the type of stuff he's talking about. But there's still plenty of music being made that's worth listening to.

Re: Slightly OT: Why Modern Music Is Awful
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: June 13, 2018 09:26

Modern music is not crap. If you're expecting music from 1972 to reappear, you are delusional. Rock and roll is dead, except for an occasional burp here and there. There's plenty of good music our there from around the world, but you have to open your mind and your ears.

Re: Slightly OT: Why Modern Music Is Awful
Posted by: Strike ()
Date: June 13, 2018 09:48

Quote
24FPS
Modern music is not crap. If you're expecting music from 1972 to reappear, you are delusional. Rock and roll is dead, except for an occasional burp here and there. There's plenty of good music our there from around the world, but you have to open your mind and your ears.

Your´re so right! I can´t stand people talking like this. The only thing they know, is the music of their glory days when they were in their twenties.
There is so much great music out there, go for it!

Re: Slightly OT: Why Modern Music Is Awful
Posted by: Green Lady ()
Date: June 13, 2018 09:54

Modern music is always awful. It was awful in 1963 and it's awful now. It was probably awful in 1922 as well.

Re: Slightly OT: Why Modern Music Is Awful
Posted by: Bastion ()
Date: June 13, 2018 10:34

I cringe every time this thread comes up.
Most of the posters on this site are stuck in the 70s anyway.

Best albums of 2018 so far:

Amen Dunes - Freedom
Kali Uchis - Isolation
Parquet Courts - Wide Awake
Beach House - 7
The Voidz - Virtue
Jon Hopkins - Singularity
Arctic Monkeys - Tranquility Base Hotel & Casino
Daniel Avery - Song for Alpha
Unknown Mortal Orchestra - Sex & Food
Car Seat Headrest - Twin Fantasy
A.A.L - 2012-2017
Young Fathers - Cocoa Sugar

Re: Slightly OT: Why Modern Music Is Awful
Posted by: MartinB ()
Date: June 13, 2018 10:42

I suspect that young people today think that our (old) music is crap.

Re: Slightly OT: Why Modern Music Is Awful
Posted by: undertheradar ()
Date: June 13, 2018 12:49

Even though I have my Favourite bands/genre, for me era's or style of music bear no relation to me liking it or not.

I don't mind who plays/sings it or the date it was first released.

My motto is.. A good song is a good song!.

*****
Undertheradar
Disclaimer: I was drunk when I wrote this ;-)

Re: Slightly OT: Why Modern Music Is Awful
Posted by: MWasilewski ()
Date: June 13, 2018 13:08

Quote
Bastion
I cringe every time this thread comes up.
Most of the posters on this site are stuck in the 70s anyway.

Best albums of 2018 so far:

Amen Dunes - Freedom
Kali Uchis - Isolation
Parquet Courts - Wide Awake
Beach House - 7
The Voidz - Virtue
Jon Hopkins - Singularity
Arctic Monkeys - Tranquility Base Hotel & Casino
Daniel Avery - Song for Alpha
Unknown Mortal Orchestra - Sex & Food
Car Seat Headrest - Twin Fantasy
A.A.L - 2012-2017
Young Fathers - Cocoa Sugar

I really enjoyed AAL and Beach House. I find Jon Hopkins latest to be worse than the previous one.

But back to the topic - I suppose the problem is as old as the Earth. Apparently we cannot learn from the previous generations' mistakes and accept that new stuff is not bad but it requires some effort from us to appreciate it.

Re: Slightly OT: Why Modern Music Is Awful
Posted by: drewmaster ()
Date: June 13, 2018 14:34

Interesting comments here. I too think it's way too broad to say "modern music is awful" -- there has always been good music and shite, in every era of mankind -- but I think the guy's point is that the music that you hear on the radio and in shopping malls is usually shite and the good stuff rarely is heard.

That being said, some of the stuff that's popular is also very good IMO, e.g. ...

[www.youtube.com]

Drew

Re: Slightly OT: Why Modern Music Is Awful
Posted by: kowalski ()
Date: June 13, 2018 16:02

There's always been some kind of formula behind popular music. Remember the Brill Building ? Remember Holland-Dozier-Holland ? Remember Tin Pan Alley ?

Re: Slightly OT: Why Modern Music Is Awful
Posted by: keefriff99 ()
Date: June 13, 2018 16:18

Quote
Strike
Quote
24FPS
Modern music is not crap. If you're expecting music from 1972 to reappear, you are delusional. Rock and roll is dead, except for an occasional burp here and there. There's plenty of good music our there from around the world, but you have to open your mind and your ears.

Your´re so right! I can´t stand people talking like this. The only thing they know, is the music of their glory days when they were in their twenties.
There is so much great music out there, go for it!
Absolutely right. Thank you.

People always think they're being deep and edgy by spewing stodgy "get off my lawn" sentiments about how modern-day pop culture sucks.

Re: Slightly OT: Why Modern Music Is Awful
Posted by: BowieStone ()
Date: June 13, 2018 16:28

If you think modern music is aweful, the problem is your attitude towards ‘new’ music, not the music itself. You’re probably stuck somewhere in time. Fine, but don’t blame the music...blame ageing.

As been stated, there was always good and bad. And also: what bad is for you can be really enjoyed by someone else.

Check out great 2018 albums from relatively young/popular/hip artists like Ashley Monroe, Kacey Musgraves, Kali Uchis, Brothers Osborne, Blackberry Smoke, Kanye West, Pusha T, Lake Street Dive, Ashley Campbell, Black Panther OST,...

Loads of great music to enjoy.

Re: Slightly OT: Why Modern Music Is Awful
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: June 13, 2018 19:11

Quote
MartinB
I suspect that young people today think that our (old) music is crap.

A few days ago I was in a café to get a quick fix of caffeine and I heard this playing on the P.A. :
[www.youtube.com] eye rolling smiley

The barely legal waitress let me know it was her choice and her playlist... So I'd tend to think bad music will always overwhelm good music and disco crap from the 80's can prevent young people from discovering good contemporary music.

Re: Slightly OT: Why Modern Music Is Awful
Posted by: keefriff99 ()
Date: June 13, 2018 19:38

Quote
dcba
Quote
MartinB
I suspect that young people today think that our (old) music is crap.

A few days ago I was in a café to get a quick fix of caffeine and I heard this playing on the P.A. :
[www.youtube.com] eye rolling smiley

The barely legal waitress let me know it was her choice and her playlist... So I'd tend to think bad music will always overwhelm good music and disco crap from the 80's can prevent young people from discovering good contemporary music.
Never even heard of these guys.

There are tons of older people now claiming the '80s was the greatest decade, when in the '90s it was considered a horribly garish and tasteless decade (neon colors, cheesy synthesizer music, tacky hair metal, etc.)

Everything happens in cycles. People become older and get nostalgic for their youth...it skews perceptions and you only tend to remember the good stuff.

Re: Slightly OT: Why Modern Music Is Awful
Posted by: Elmo Lewis ()
Date: June 13, 2018 19:46

Great live music everywhere, just none on the radio

Re: Slightly OT: Why Modern Music Is Awful
Posted by: More Hot Rocks ()
Date: June 13, 2018 20:00

Modern music is crap alright. Lousy musicians that think they are doing something new when it’s sll been done

Re: Slightly OT: Why Modern Music Is Awful
Posted by: BluzDude ()
Date: June 13, 2018 20:18

Quote
Koen
Quote
Ladykiller
Modern Music Is NOT Awful. You listen to the wrong bands. Today, we have still great artists, but they are not famous. They play in clubs for 50 - 200 people.

Exactly.

Go see bands at your local pub and let them surprise you. Stop listening to the same sjit in the radio.


I agree, but just because most of these bands are new, I wouldn't call it "Modern" music. I guess we have to define what modern music is. To me it is different than "New" music.

Re: Slightly OT: Why Modern Music Is Awful
Posted by: keefriff99 ()
Date: June 13, 2018 20:21

Quote
BluzDude
Quote
Koen
Quote
Ladykiller
Modern Music Is NOT Awful. You listen to the wrong bands. Today, we have still great artists, but they are not famous. They play in clubs for 50 - 200 people.

Exactly.

Go see bands at your local pub and let them surprise you. Stop listening to the same sjit in the radio.


I agree, but just because most of these bands are new, I wouldn't call it "Modern" music. I guess we have to define what modern music is. To me it is different than "New" music.
Well that's a good point. Greta Van Fleet, for instance, might be young and new but they aren't really modern...they're decidedly retro in sound.

Re: Slightly OT: Why Modern Music Is Awful
Posted by: ryanpow ()
Date: June 13, 2018 20:33

Quote
Elmo Lewis
Great live music everywhere, just none on the radio


The radio is horrible. All the stations now are owned by the same company. No matter what the genre is, It's just the same few songs being played to death and it seems like every year the list gets narrower and narrower of what they'll play. Even the stones make more effort in mixing things up on their set list.



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