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Is it a computer loop or does Chuck play the melody on UMT?

He (or is it Tim?) plays the "marimba"-parts

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Stoneage
Is it a computer loop or does Chuck play the melody on UMT?

He (or is it Tim?) plays the "marimba"-parts

Probably Matt Clifford.

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DP, do Matt and Chuck play any "guitar rhthym sound" ?

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A tight, solid performance, not a bad show really — there isn’t a bad Rolling Stones show, for that matter — but I felt something was thin, if not entirely missing. Call it the fifth element or whatever you name it.

I don’t think they were phoning it in or going through the motions. But in Manchester, I got the impression the band gave everything, and then some. What I felt lacked from their Edinburgh show is that some portion, a special something.

Maybe it’s just me. Maybe it’s because of the crap nosebleed seat I hit on with my LD.

I had been dying to hear She’s A Rainbow for years and years — the moment those three words were projected on the gigantic, monolithic screens as the vote winner, I was so glad. Yet when they finished it, I found I was slightly disappointed. It just doesn’t work live that brilliantly. Clearly one of those numbers whose value rely on their rare outings in live performance rather than the actual on stage dynamics. Don’t get me wrong, I was delighted to hear it for sure. But once is enough.

The whole experience has left me in a somewhat anticlimactic state of mind. Just another night for me.

My two cents.

Arrived at home yesterday lately. I read your comment and agree with. I'm looking forward to hear She's a Rainbow, but I was also disappointed.

My opinion is, that there is no "red thread" of the setlist. Very mixed up. Some songs should change their position in the set.

I can also complain on the sound. It was the third time after Dusseldorf, Desert Trip 2 and now Edinburgh, that the guitars were louder adjusted than anything elso. I like it loud, but the sound wasn't good again.

I can also agree that the Band may played "usual as Business". But nothing special.

OT: Edinburgh the first time. What a city. What a landscape. Beautiful. Top!

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DP, do Matt and Chuck play any "guitar rhthym sound" ?

No, but Matt was awfully close on the 89/90 tours (Can't Be Seen and Rock And A Hard Place + the awful interlude on 2000 Light Years From Home).

On Steel Wheels you can hear a keyboard with an acoustic guitar sound on CBS and RAAHP (tn the bridges).

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A tight, solid performance, not a bad show really — there isn’t a bad Rolling Stones show, for that matter — but I felt something was thin, if not entirely missing. Call it the fifth element or whatever you name it.

I don’t think they were phoning it in or going through the motions. But in Manchester, I got the impression the band gave everything, and then some. What I felt lacked from their Edinburgh show is that some portion, a special something.

Maybe it’s just me. Maybe it’s because of the crap nosebleed seat I hit on with my LD.

I had been dying to hear She’s A Rainbow for years and years — the moment those three words were projected on the gigantic, monolithic screens as the vote winner, I was so glad. Yet when they finished it, I found I was slightly disappointed. It just doesn’t work live that brilliantly. Clearly one of those numbers whose value rely on their rare outings in live performance rather than the actual on stage dynamics. Don’t get me wrong, I was delighted to hear it for sure. But once is enough.

The whole experience has left me in a somewhat anticlimactic state of mind. Just another night for me.

My two cents.

Arrived at home yesterday lately. I read your comment and agree with. I'm looking forward to hear She's a Rainbow, but I was also disappointed.

My opinion is, that there is no "red thread" of the setlist. Very mixed up. Some songs should change their position in the set.

I can also complain on the sound. It was the third time after Dusseldorf, Desert Trip 2 and now Edinburgh, that the guitars were louder adjusted than anything elso. I like it loud, but the sound wasn't good again.

I can also agree that the Band may played "usual as Business". But nothing special.

OT: Edinburgh the first time. What a city. What a landscape. Beautiful. Top!

After all, the same old story here again — while a number of people had a weekend of lifetime, some — like you and me — went home unimpressed. Human factor, that is. There isn’t a 100% perfect Rolling Stones show that satisfies everybody who is there.

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A tight, solid performance, not a bad show really — there isn’t a bad Rolling Stones show, for that matter — but I felt something was thin, if not entirely missing. Call it the fifth element or whatever you name it.

I don’t think they were phoning it in or going through the motions. But in Manchester, I got the impression the band gave everything, and then some. What I felt lacked from their Edinburgh show is that some portion, a special something.

Maybe it’s just me. Maybe it’s because of the crap nosebleed seat I hit on with my LD.

I had been dying to hear She’s A Rainbow for years and years — the moment those three words were projected on the gigantic, monolithic screens as the vote winner, I was so glad. Yet when they finished it, I found I was slightly disappointed. It just doesn’t work live that brilliantly. Clearly one of those numbers whose value rely on their rare outings in live performance rather than the actual on stage dynamics. Don’t get me wrong, I was delighted to hear it for sure. But once is enough.

The whole experience has left me in a somewhat anticlimactic state of mind. Just another night for me.

My two cents.

Arrived at home yesterday lately. I read your comment and agree with. I'm looking forward to hear She's a Rainbow, but I was also disappointed.

My opinion is, that there is no "red thread" of the setlist. Very mixed up. Some songs should change their position in the set.

I can also complain on the sound. It was the third time after Dusseldorf, Desert Trip 2 and now Edinburgh, that the guitars were louder adjusted than anything elso. I like it loud, but the sound wasn't good again.

I can also agree that the Band may played "usual as Business". But nothing special.

OT: Edinburgh the first time. What a city. What a landscape. Beautiful. Top!

After all, the same old story here again — while a number of people had a weekend of lifetime, some — like you and me — went home unimpressed. Human factor, that is. There isn’t a 100% perfect Rolling Stones show that satisfies everybody who is there.

It was a very nice weekend spent in Edinburgh. But yes, I saw better shows, where I was much more satisfied.
Yes, they're older. They are all in their 70ies. But compared to 1989/90 and 1994/1995 the last shows were a bit unimpressed for me. I can't explain why. Maybe I saw them 1995 for the first time and it was impressive to see THE STONES live. I got tears in my eyes to hear the songs for the first time live.
But the setlists at that time feel more "straight forward" than now.

Why paint it black is played between ycagwyw and honky tonk women or miss you between sympathy and midnight rambler?

And again. The sound was till 2006 much better than now. But yes, these are only my feelings and statements. Sorry.

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A tight, solid performance, not a bad show really — there isn’t a bad Rolling Stones show, for that matter — but I felt something was thin, if not entirely missing. Call it the fifth element or whatever you name it.

I don’t think they were phoning it in or going through the motions. But in Manchester, I got the impression the band gave everything, and then some. What I felt lacked from their Edinburgh show is that some portion, a special something.

Maybe it’s just me. Maybe it’s because of the crap nosebleed seat I hit on with my LD.

I had been dying to hear She’s A Rainbow for years and years — the moment those three words were projected on the gigantic, monolithic screens as the vote winner, I was so glad. Yet when they finished it, I found I was slightly disappointed. It just doesn’t work live that brilliantly. Clearly one of those numbers whose value rely on their rare outings in live performance rather than the actual on stage dynamics. Don’t get me wrong, I was delighted to hear it for sure. But once is enough.

The whole experience has left me in a somewhat anticlimactic state of mind. Just another night for me.

My two cents.

Arrived at home yesterday lately. I read your comment and agree with. I'm looking forward to hear She's a Rainbow, but I was also disappointed.

My opinion is, that there is no "red thread" of the setlist. Very mixed up. Some songs should change their position in the set.

I can also complain on the sound. It was the third time after Dusseldorf, Desert Trip 2 and now Edinburgh, that the guitars were louder adjusted than anything elso. I like it loud, but the sound wasn't good again.

I can also agree that the Band may played "usual as Business". But nothing special.

OT: Edinburgh the first time. What a city. What a landscape. Beautiful. Top!

After all, the same old story here again — while a number of people had a weekend of lifetime, some — like you and me — went home unimpressed. Human factor, that is. There isn’t a 100% perfect Rolling Stones show that satisfies everybody who is there.

It was a very nice weekend spent in Edinburgh. But yes, I saw better shows, where I was much more satisfied.
Yes, they're older. They are all in their 70ies. But compared to 1989/90 and 1994/1995 the last shows were a bit unimpressed for me. I can't explain why. Maybe I saw them 1995 for the first time and it was impressive to see THE STONES live. I got tears in my eyes to hear the songs for the first time live.
But the setlists at that time feel more "straight forward" than now.

Why paint it black is played between ycagwyw and honky tonk women or miss you between sympathy and midnight rambler?

And again. The sound was till 2006 much better than now. But yes, these are only my feelings and statements. Sorry.

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Bitter Sweet Symphony
Great performance by Richard Ashcroft in Edinburgh.
Very worth opening for the Stones!
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YCAGWYW is one of the 10 - 15 best Stones songs, IMO. It's a classic song for sure. An rock anthem, I would say. But here some folks are calling it "boring"... What can I say?

In Edinburgh I validated, once again, that the songs which make the audiences absolutely enthusiastic are ALL included in the "black list" of some IORRians. The "please, drop these" list... Fortunately,the Stones are not fools!

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YCAGWYW is one of the 10 - 15 best Stones songs, IMO. It's a classic song for sure. An rock anthem, I would say. But here some folks are calling it "boring"... What can I say?

In Edinburgh I validated, once again, that the songs which make the audiences absolutely enthusiastic are ALL included in the "black list" of some IORRians. The "please, drop these" list... Fortunately,the Stones are not fools!

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YCAGWYW is one of the 10 - 15 best Stones songs, IMO. It's a classic song for sure. An rock anthem, I would say. But here some folks are calling it "boring"... What can I say?

In Edinburgh I validated, once again, that the songs which make the audiences absolutely enthusiastic are ALL included in the "black list" of some IORRians. The "please, drop these" list... Fortunately,the Stones are not fools!

Yes but if you take into account Miss You has been the stable diet live since 1978, it does become boring for concert attendees, there are so many equal if not better songs to play, not only that but a lot of fans who love Miss You would surely sacrifice it for two songs in its place such as Ruby Tuesday and Waiting On A Friend, even Memory Motel, the list goes on.

If i was Mick Jagger and i wrote the depth of songs that he and Keith have, i would be so proud of my work that i would want the world to hear as much of it as possible, especially live. I actually think Mick has little interest in the songs he has written as long as they earn him maximum profit at the box office, job done as far as he is concerned.

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I enjoyed the hell out of Miss You. Loved every second of it. So much better than on other tours.

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I enjoyed the hell out of Miss You. Loved every second of it. So much better than on other tours.

Well good for you, so why is Miss You so good this time compared to other tours ? why do you need to hear that particular song played live instead of other great songs that don't get a look in.
Would you not like to hear Mick sing Let It Loose, Sweet Black Angel, Memory Motel, Tops, Waiting On A Friend, Angie, Salt Of The Earth ? Mick could easily fit two of these songs in every other show to replace Miss You.
Miss You is my toilet break but unfortunately i didn't need to go last week so had to suffer it.

To be fair at Manchester the crowd sounded exited when we heard the start of MY, then after a couple minutes people appeared to get bored except for watching Ronnie and Keith meeting and greeting and grinning and grinning some more.
So when you go to see a Stones gig you want to hear the same songs over and over again, that's cool, i respect that, but why is it a problem that some of us are bored with Miss You. I don't mean you personally, just generally i feel like i am out of order for daring to say i'm bored with songs like that.
I can understand a casual fan wanting to hear Miss You and YCAGWYW but not a hardcore fan.
Don't get me wrong it's great song for playing to the audience but why can't it be replaced for equally good songs, now that we are all so familiar with Miss You.

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I enjoyed the hell out of Miss You. Loved every second of it. So much better than on other tours.

Well good for you, so why is Miss You so good this time compared to other tours ? why do you need to hear that particular song played live instead of other great songs that don't get a look in.
Would you not like to hear Mick sing Let It Loose, Sweet Black Angel, Memory Motel, Tops, Waiting On A Friend, Angie, Salt Of The Earth ? Mick could easily fit two of these songs in every other show to replace Miss You.
Miss You is my toilet break but unfortunately i didn't need to go last week so had to suffer it.

To be fair at Manchester the crowd sounded exited when we heard the start of MY, then after a couple minutes people appeared to get bored except for watching Ronnie and Keith meeting and greeting and grinning and grinning some more.
So when you go to see a Stones gig you want to hear the same songs over and over again, that's cool, i respect that, but why is it a problem that some of us are bored with Miss You. I don't mean you personally, just generally i feel like i am out of order for daring to say i'm bored with songs like that.
I can understand a casual fan wanting to hear Miss You and YCAGWYW but not a hardcore fan.
Don't get me wrong it's great song for playing to the audience but why can't it be replaced for equally good songs, now that we are all so familiar with Miss You.

Ofcourse i would like to hear tops and heaven. It is not up to us what songs they play. It is up to them. And if you dont like it (as you basicly say you would prefer a toilet break instead of having to endure the horror called miss you)you have the choice to not spend a small fortune.

On all four no filter shows i saw it was the turning point where the crowd got really going.

Anyway I just said i enjoy miss you. Not expected to having to defend myself for liking a stones song

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Yes i would prefer other songs. But i accept the fact that they decide the setlist and not me. Dont waste energy on things you have no control over.

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Miss You has grown in popularity in recent years among younger and newer Stones fans. Not playing it would piss people off, particularly folk who only go to one show.

Whereas if you go to multiple shows, a lot of setlist repetition is the price you're going to pay.

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Rock on my friend