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Any comments on Keith's playing here?
I mean, any anal ytical 5 pages long discussion on Keith's playing based on this?
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No its not your wine, what Ronnie and Keith just achieved there was immense, i am just in awe, what are they doing saving there best till last, weaving like never before ?, i've never heard Wood play like this, its as though every time he goes out on stage its for the last time, as though time is almost out and he's going to do it one more time better than ever , he is a man possessed right now, i know he makes a mess of the odd solo but his interlocking playing with Keith is like a glorious never ending solo that lasts two hours.
Yes maumau this sort of guitar work in GS deserves 5 pages of in depth praise.
In fact i'm pleased Sasha is turned down so i can her it all properly, it doesn't even need a vocal on it, its beautiful , full of emotion and depth, just love Ronnie and Keith's face and expression of concentration, oh i just can't wait to see them Tuesday.
Yes me too was happy to hear the music over her voice
have nothing against her but dont like particularly her style, miss lisa though I have become a bit tired in the years of the gs gimmick and choreography
so yeah this is something that strikes me too in the coventry clip, the fact that I realized there's no need no vocal in that coda
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The end of the article:
"Nights like these, with icons of music, might be lost in years to come, so we must seize upon these opportunities to create lasting memories..".
120% true...
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That's absolute rubbish. Why would Mick keep her if he didn't think she was any good? Surely the stones could have any singer they want? Why would they choose and then keep one who they don't like. Sorry, but sometimes people say the most stupid things on this forum and this is a prime example.
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Why during this tour Keith didn't do his usual greeting before starting to sing his set list? did anyone notice that?
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Why during this tour Keith didn't do his usual greeting before starting to sing his set list? did anyone notice that?
The watershed is 10.30, the Stones come on at 8.30 to do a two hour show, doesn't leave Keith much time to address the audience.
I've noticed him shun a chorus of "olay! olay! olay! olay!" twice already, he just gets on with the show.
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That's absolute rubbish. Why would Mick keep her if he didn't think she was any good? Surely the stones could have any singer they want? Why would they choose and then keep one who they don't like. Sorry, but sometimes people say the most stupid things on this forum and this is a prime example.
Oh so you think the engineers turned her down three shows in a row by mistake and no one noticed and no one mentioned it to anyone. Funny that we can hear her perfectly the rest of the show doing back up vocals. I already explained my theory , Mick doesn't want to sing too hard while duetting with her and understandably so, it was while Mick was duetting with Florence during Wild Horses that his voice began to crack, Micks voice has struggled towards the end of the last few shows according to people that attended the shows and i just think he doesn't want to get drawn into over reaching .
Just my view, i'm probably wrong.
It's possible even feasible Mick may have requested it for this reason to the engineers, i'm not being an idiot about it, and its a bit late to get rid of anyone now, i said just now that her job of BACK UP vocals is irreplaceable. My God some people on here get all excited and insulting over an opinion that differs to theirs.
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Sasha is an extremely talented singer and the vocals she does in this spot are great. As BV says in his review, much more like the original Merry Clayton version snd much more down to earth than the Lisa versions in recent years where it just seemed like she was bored with the song. Don't get me wrong, Lisa was great but I want to hear Sasha.
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Why during this tour Keith didn't do his usual greeting before starting to sing his set list? did anyone notice that?
The watershed is 10.30, the Stones come on at 8.30 to do a two hour show, doesn't leave Keith much time to address the audience.
I've noticed him shun a chorus of "olay! olay! olay! olay!" twice already, he just gets on with the show.
yes you're right, i was reffering also to his ritual of touching his head,heart and genitals with punches
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That's absolute rubbish. Why would Mick keep her if he didn't think she was any good? Surely the stones could have any singer they want? Why would they choose and then keep one who they don't like. Sorry, but sometimes people say the most stupid things on this forum and this is a prime example.
Oh so you think the engineers turned her down three shows in a row by mistake and no one noticed and no one mentioned it to anyone. Funny that we can hear her perfectly the rest of the show doing back up vocals. I already explained my theory , Mick doesn't want to sing too hard while duetting with her and understandably so, it was while Mick was duetting with Florence during Wild Horses that his voice began to crack, Micks voice has struggled towards the end of the last few shows according to people that attended the shows and i just think he doesn't want to get drawn into over reaching .
Just my view, i'm probably wrong.
It's possible even feasible Mick may have requested it for this reason to the engineers, i'm not being an idiot about it, and its a bit late to get rid of anyone now, i said just now that her job of BACK UP vocals is irreplaceable. My God some people on here get all excited and insulting over an opinion that differs to theirs.
I didn't mean to insult anyone but the reasoning makes no sense. I could understand it on the duet parts but not the solo. A more likely scenario is that it sounds ok from the sound desk but not elsewhere. It's not just that she was a bit quiet. She was practically inaudible. If Mick had conspired to do that on purpose then my opinion of him would nosedive considerably as it is really unprofessional. But I don't believe that's the case.
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In addition, the out front mix has no bearing at all on Mick, how he sings or "competes".
The on stage monitoring is all separate and done from a different set of engineers on a different desk.
If Mick wants, he can ask for his monitor feed to have none of her vocals in during the solo part, bearing in mind he stays back on the main stage when she does her stuff.
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Sasha is an extremely talented singer and the vocals she does in this spot are great. As BV says in his review, much more like the original Merry Clayton version snd much more down to earth than the Lisa versions in recent years where it just seemed like she was bored with the song. Don't get me wrong, Lisa was great but I want to hear Sasha.
Totally agree with you and bv on all counts, and the times I've seen Sasha sing the solo part I've been blown away in it's purity and authenticity.
Not knocking Lisa, but she turned it all into an operatic thrill ride - sounding like Mariah Carey hitting the highest notes.
A shame they've turned her down if true, and if Mick can't keep up with her that reflects badly on him and not Sasha.
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It is a puzzle, interesting to see if its rectified in Manchester, i think four times in a row would mean its on purpose.
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Why during this tour Keith didn't do his usual greeting before starting to sing his set list? did anyone notice that?
The watershed is 10.30, the Stones come on at 8.30 to do a two hour show, doesn't leave Keith much time to address the audience.
I've noticed him shun a chorus of "olay! olay! olay! olay!" twice already, he just gets on with the show.
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It is a puzzle, interesting to see if its rectified in Manchester, i think four times in a row would mean its on purpose.
Already four times (London 1 & 2, Southampton and now reportedly Coventry). Not sure about Dublin. But it was the same at all three shows I attended.
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In addition, the out front mix has no bearing at all on Mick, how he sings or "competes".
The on stage monitoring is all separate and done from a different set of engineers on a different desk.
If Mick wants, he can ask for his monitor feed to have none of her vocals in during the solo part, bearing in mind he stays back on the main stage when she does her stuff.
Bearing that in mind i think my theory sucks now, sorry about that.
But Mick surely still needs to sing harder to come across to the audience when Sasha is going full pelt regardless of Micks on stage monitoring from a different set of engineers. He still needs to compete unless Sasha is turned down.
Reading BV's review and a few other reviews i got the impression they thought Sasha had been deliberately turned down and was asking for her to be turned up at the next show.
Anyway great review BV and Dean and some of those pictures were amazing, thank you to all concerned.
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In addition, the out front mix has no bearing at all on Mick, how he sings or "competes".
The on stage monitoring is all separate and done from a different set of engineers on a different desk.
If Mick wants, he can ask for his monitor feed to have none of her vocals in during the solo part, bearing in mind he stays back on the main stage when she does her stuff.
Bearing that in mind i think my theory sucks now, sorry about that.
But Mick surely still needs to sing harder to come across to the audience when Sasha is going full pelt regardless of Micks on stage monitoring from a different set of engineers. He still needs to compete unless Sasha is turned down.
Reading BV's review and a few other reviews i got the impression they thought Sasha had been deliberately turned down and was asking for her to be turned up at the next show.
Anyway great review BV and Dean and some of those pictures were amazing, thank you to all concerned.
I don't think there ous anything wrong with Mick's voice on this. The only issue is that the out front mix is wrong.