For information about how to use this forum please check out forum help and policies.
Quote
roller99Quote
keithsman
No offence taken roller99, you always explain yourself in an articulate way when pressed, its all good with me
Thank you kindly!
Quote
roller99
Anyone who was not present at this show has no place being in this thread.
Quote
roller99Quote
stoneheartedQuote
roller99
Anyone who was not present at this show has no place being in this thread.
That right there is just about the most offensive, antagonizing thing I've ever read on this forum.
People so full of themselves they feel entitled to elevate themselves above other fans.
Because of the price of a concert ticket.
The fan police.
Some people think they own the Stones.
"But, he can't be a man 'cause he doesn't smoke
The same cigarettes as me..."
Full of myself? Elevating myself? Rubbish. You cannot experience the nuances of a show though a YouTube clip. When you're up front, you can hear the band playing through their amps, before it gets to the PA. Darryl asked me if I could hear this exact thing. So people up front have a much different experience than those further back. Critiquing a performance shot with a phone is like reviewing a car without having driven it. Sour grapes....
Quote
roller99
Why thank you, I'll wear that comment proudly, even though it's totally misinformed and dripping with jealousy.
Quote
stoneheartedQuote
roller99Quote
stoneheartedQuote
roller99
Anyone who was not present at this show has no place being in this thread.
That right there is just about the most offensive, antagonizing thing I've ever read on this forum.
People so full of themselves they feel entitled to elevate themselves above other fans.
Because of the price of a concert ticket.
The fan police.
Some people think they own the Stones.
"But, he can't be a man 'cause he doesn't smoke
The same cigarettes as me..."
Full of myself? Elevating myself? Rubbish. You cannot experience the nuances of a show though a YouTube clip. When you're up front, you can hear the band playing through their amps, before it gets to the PA. Darryl asked me if I could hear this exact thing. So people up front have a much different experience than those further back. Critiquing a performance shot with a phone is like reviewing a car without having driven it. Sour grapes....
Which is like saying you can't critique an album if you weren't in the studio to hear it while it was being recorded, or at least having heard the master played back through the production console, because there are more nuances to be heard in the studio playback; for instance, a vinyl album contains only 90% of the bass.Quote
roller99
Why thank you, I'll wear that comment proudly, even though it's totally misinformed and dripping with jealousy.
How pathetic.
Oh, by the way, if you read my comments in this thread, I said only positive things about the performance based on the YouTube clips I saw.
Does that still mean that I'm not allowed to post in this thread, because I wasn't there?
What I took offense to was your pompous, self-righteous approach to fandom.
You're not the sort of person I'd want to have a beer with, mate --
You're the sort of person I'd want to throw a beer at.
Quote
keefriff99
It's amazing how people seem to think YouTube somehow inserts bum notes and flat vocals into the audio stream.
The ability to capture video and audio now is so advanced that it IS possible to glean whether a performance was good or bad without being there.
Now, whether or not YOU notice that if you're there in the moment is a different story. I've been at concerts where I was totally oblivious to mistakes because I was in the moment and hyped up on adrenaline, and then listened to the performance on YouTube at a later date and thought, "wait, I totally missed that mistake".
Quote
angee
Doxa, always interesting. Were you in attendance at the shows where you say Mick last showed his full physical powers?
Quote
DoxaQuote
angee
Doxa, always interesting. Were you in attendance at the shows where you say Mick last showed his full physical powers?
Well, I catched him in Stockholm 2014, and that was probably the best performance by him I ever have wittnessed live (starting, though, only from 1995). Never felt him presence so strongly both physically and (especially) singing-wise. Like he was really letting himself go. He really sounded and moved like it would be his last performance ever. I thought after a few numbers - things like "All Down The Line" and "Out of Control" were totally out of his world - that let's see how he will get this show through, because there was no any control - it looked like - energy-level-wise. He was clearly stronger in every level than, for example, I saw him in Hyde Park a year earlier (which was a normal case of his 'professionalism' I've wittnessed many times earlier). People following him closely made the similar onservation during that European Tour. This high note lasted I think until during Australian Tour his throat broke down (he got ill). And I think he has been more careful ever since, slowing a bit his physicality in order to control better his voice. From the base of the clips I've seen this tendency has continued tour by tour.
I cannot help but think that L'Wrenn's tragedy had something to do with MIck performing his ass off every gig in the following tour (Europe), and giving more from himself than usual (an odd kind of sign of humanity and mortality). Like it would be the last gig ever every night. Probably that was a part of his personal healing process. Just speculating though.
- Doxa
Quote
DandelionPowderman
Interesting, as I never thought of it like that. I didn't attend the Stockholm-show, though.
However, I saw the 2012 (O2 I), Hyde Park I, Oslo 2014, Roskilde 2014, Hamburg 2017, Amsterdam 2017 and London I 2018. I missed the 2015 and 2016-tours.
I'd say that the less energetic performances of these shows (from Mick) were Oslo and Roskilde 2014 and Hyde Park I (Especially Oslo: the first show after L'Wren's death).
If we can read something into this, it would be that Mick is human after all. Sometimes he's in incredible shape, other times he listens to his body and takes it down a notch.
But I think we need more shows under our belts, than you and I attend, Doxa, to be able to conclude on this..
Quote
DoxaQuote
angee
Doxa, always interesting. Were you in attendance at the shows where you say Mick last showed his full physical powers?
Well, I catched him in Stockholm 2014, and that was probably the best performance by him I ever have wittnessed live (starting, though, only from 1995). Never felt him presence so strongly both physically and (especially) singing-wise. Like he was really letting himself go. He really sounded and moved like it would be his last performance ever. I thought after a few numbers - things like "All Down The Line" and "Out of Control" were totally out of his world - that let's see how he will get this show through, because there was no any control - it looked like - energy-level-wise. He was clearly stronger in every level than, for example, I saw him in Hyde Park a year earlier (which was a normal case of his 'professionalism' I've wittnessed many times earlier). People following him closely made the similar onservation during that European Tour. This high note lasted I think until during Australian Tour his throat broke down (he got ill). And I think he has been more careful ever since, slowing a bit his physicality in order to control better his voice. From the base of the clips I've seen this tendency has continued tour by tour.
I cannot help but think that L'Wrenn's tragedy had something to do with MIck performing his ass off every gig in the following tour (Europe), and giving more from himself than usual (an odd kind of sign of humanity and mortality). Like it would be the last gig ever every night. Probably that was a part of his personal healing process. Just speculating though.
- Doxa
Quote
Silver Dagger
Here's my video of opening song Street Fighting Man from the first London show.
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
Silver Dagger
Here's my video of opening song Street Fighting Man from the first London show.
Fab version, fab opener. Thanks for posting, Mike! Great, great stuff!
Quote
Silver Dagger
Here's my video of opening song Street Fighting Man from the first London show.
Quote
Heart for Stones
....., but I can't see no link?
All the Best!Quote
Silver Dagger
Here's my video of opening song Street Fighting Man from the first London show.
Quote
TooTough
The Rolling Stones - Live in London 2018 full video soundboard and rehearsals
[www.youtube.com]
Quote
slewanQuote
TooTough
The Rolling Stones - Live in London 2018 full video soundboard and rehearsals
[www.youtube.com]
the sound is rather thin, I'd say. There are audience recordings around that sound much better