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In my opinion, things must be contextualized, like some terms used in the past and today not very pleasant.
I don't think Clapton is racist, or rather we are all racists, the difference is the culture of the people and I find it hard to believe that Clapton's always musically blues culture makes him a racist. He may have taken a tough stance on immigration, but that doesn't mean being racist.
"Get the wogs out" is both discriminating and racist.
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I've got a shock for everyone, Eric obviously meant what he said at the time drunk or not, and in retrospect he was right, when you look at some English Cities today there are places you feel completely out of place and a minority if you are white British.
I don't think the indigenous people of England were ever asked if they wanted to become a minority, i go to London now and to be honest it's a challenge to find anyone talking English, even if they are white they are invariably Eastern European or whatever.
For me when the host nation become a minority it's gone too far, i think my fellow Englishmen are the most tolerant people in the world but I'd be lying if i said there isn't concern, multiculturalism doesn't seem to be working, in the last few years I've witnessed a lot of racial tensions from both sides, it's very sad and i fear it doesn't end well for the English as a culture and I'm sure most the world will be very happy about that including many English themselves.
I hope you are joking.
for one, England is 80% white....so stop w/ the total inaccuracy about "white minorities" in England.
As for the woes of the Indigenous English, boo-hoo....I'm pretty sure the indigenous people of all of England's colonies were never asked if they wanted to be exploited for England's gain....
so, too bad for the UK if they show up now looking for a piece of the pie the Brits stole from them for ___ years.
If your Fellow White Brits are concerned, they can simply have more kids...population growth is necessary for economic solvency as populations age & retire...if that ain't comin' from locals, it comes from immigrants. It's basic math.
But, if you wanna start kicking some immigrants out....feel free to send all the immigrant doctors, engineers, mathematicians, scientists, nurses, dentists etc. to my country....(FYI, that's how Einstein and all the Manhattan Project scientists ended up in my country....Dummy Shitler being a xenophobic, antisemitic moron)
or do you want to keep the highly-skilled professionals and only throw out the "low value" immigrants?.....
I ask b/c a side of socioeconomic prejudice goes well with a plate of xenophobia covered in racism-sauce.
Whatever...if Clapton meant what he said, I know who I'd vote off the island....
Either you are fresh out of university of you are not too good at understanding basic facts, and i didn't say anything about kicking people out, ( I'm certainly not a racist , many of my heroes are black and government immigration policy is not their fault) i said when some London boroughs are 0 to 5% white things have gone too far, and if your guess that England is 80% white ( that figure will have changed when the new census comes out,) is it not a concern that 20% non whites are committing almost half of knife crime, that worries me, that tells me that these people feel like they have nothing to lose in this country, it tells me they are not happy. Multiculturalism has failed, this country has failed them, it has used them and neglected them, can't you understand what I was saying, Clapton was right in that respect, mass immigration policy under previous governments was a mistake, and by the way, his drunken speech has been altered recently, that's the internet for you, that's the punishment he is receiving for having the guts to speak out against our basic freedoms being taken from us recently.
And you say population growth is a good thing for economy, well is it a good thing for people to be over populated, , you mean it's a good thing for capitalists.
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On the word of two people, both of whom seem to agree it was a totally racist rant, but just spread out over an entire performance instead of as a concentrated blast as reported elsewhere. And both these people's accounts carry weight because one was an immigrant and the other fronted a band with black people in it.
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I've got a shock for everyone, Eric obviously meant what he said at the time drunk or not, and in retrospect he was right, when you look at some English Cities today there are places you feel completely out of place and a minority if you are white British.
I don't think the indigenous people of England were ever asked if they wanted to become a minority, i go to London now and to be honest it's a challenge to find anyone talking English, even if they are white they are invariably Eastern European or whatever.
For me when the host nation become a minority it's gone too far, i think my fellow Englishmen are the most tolerant people in the world but I'd be lying if i said there isn't concern, multiculturalism doesn't seem to be working, in the last few years I've witnessed a lot of racial tensions from both sides, it's very sad and i fear it doesn't end well for the English as a culture and I'm sure most the world will be very happy about that including many English themselves.
I hope you are joking.
for one, England is 80% white....so stop w/ the total inaccuracy about "white minorities" in England.
As for the woes of the Indigenous English, boo-hoo....I'm pretty sure the indigenous people of all of England's colonies were never asked if they wanted to be exploited for England's gain....
so, too bad for the UK if they show up now looking for a piece of the pie the Brits stole from them for ___ years.
If your Fellow White Brits are concerned, they can simply have more kids...population growth is necessary for economic solvency as populations age & retire...if that ain't comin' from locals, it comes from immigrants. It's basic math.
But, if you wanna start kicking some immigrants out....feel free to send all the immigrant doctors, engineers, mathematicians, scientists, nurses, dentists etc. to my country....(FYI, that's how Einstein and all the Manhattan Project scientists ended up in my country....Dummy Shitler being a xenophobic, antisemitic moron)
or do you want to keep the highly-skilled professionals and only throw out the "low value" immigrants?.....
I ask b/c a side of socioeconomic prejudice goes well with a plate of xenophobia covered in racism-sauce.
Whatever...if Clapton meant what he said, I know who I'd vote off the island....
Either you are fresh out of university of you are not too good at understanding basic facts, and i didn't say anything about kicking people out, ( I'm certainly not a racist , many of my heroes are black and government immigration policy is not their fault) i said when some London boroughs are 0 to 5% white things have gone too far, and if your guess that England is 80% white ( that figure will have changed when the new census comes out,) is it not a concern that 20% non whites are committing almost half of knife crime, that worries me, that tells me that these people feel like they have nothing to lose in this country, it tells me they are not happy. Multiculturalism has failed, this country has failed them, it has used them and neglected them, can't you understand what I was saying, Clapton was right in that respect, mass immigration policy under previous governments was a mistake, and by the way, his drunken speech has been altered recently, that's the internet for you, that's the punishment he is receiving for having the guts to speak out against our basic freedoms being taken from us recently.
And you say population growth is a good thing for economy, well is it a good thing for people to be over populated, , you mean it's a good thing for capitalists.
You say you're not a racist, but 5% white people has "gone too far". Too far for what? I know the answer but I want you to say it. That is entirely ridiculous. Are you reading what you write? That pretty much defines racism. Systematic race classifications and power structures. Who gets to be where and what they can do. What percentage of non-whites is acceptable for you then? Are you listening to yourself?
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From RockCellar Magazie:
Eric Clapton: Anniversary Deluxe Edition of 1970 Solo Debut ‘Clapton’ Coming 8/20
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On Aug. 20, UMe/Polydor will revisit Clapton, the 1970 self-titled debut album from guitarist/songwriter Eric Clapton, in deluxe Anniversary Edition formats. Announced on Wednesday, the reissue will be available on 4-CD, 1-LP and digital editions, and was previewed with a pair of newly remixed tracks from the collection. A news release notes that the full Deluxe revisiting features three separate mixes: The Eric Clapton Mix, The Delaney Bramlett Mix and The Tom Dowd Mix (The UK Version), with the Clapton Mix being released in full for the very first time. ** Also included a 4th disc of singles, alternate versions & session outtakes.
* CD4 (Singles, Alternate Versions & Session Outtakes) all titles released on 2005 Deluxe Edition CD except COMIN’ HOME (Alternate Mix) which is a previously unreleased mix
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Hmmmm. Playing only southern, red states.
Political decision?
Only places that wanted him after his latest musical collaboration?
Only places where no COVID precautions required?
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Hmmmm. Playing only southern, red states.
Political decision?
Only places that wanted him after his latest musical collaboration?
Only places where no COVID precautions required?
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Hmmmm. Playing only southern, red states.
Political decision?
Only places that wanted him after his latest musical collaboration?
Only places where no COVID precautions required?
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He could have made more money doing 3 nights at Madison Square Garden and 3 nights at Staples with less travel. This was done either because or as a result of the lack of Covid restrictions.
Ticket prices are steep. Lets see how well the sales go. I am unlikely for any of them and of all the people I know who travel for Clapton only one person may do Nashville.
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Why are people saying Eric's tour dates are political , as if he's picking places where people will only see him due to his recent collaborations with Van Morrison, what utter rubbish, he's obviously picked States with less covid restrictions because shows in venues in those States are least likely to be cancelled, it's business as usual.
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He could have made more money doing 3 nights at Madison Square Garden and 3 nights at Staples with less travel. This was done either because or as a result of the lack of Covid restrictions.
Ticket prices are steep. Lets see how well the sales go. I am unlikely for any of them and of all the people I know who travel for Clapton only one person may do Nashville.
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He could have made more money doing 3 nights at Madison Square Garden and 3 nights at Staples with less travel. This was done either because or as a result of the lack of Covid restrictions.
Ticket prices are steep. Lets see how well the sales go. I am unlikely for any of them and of all the people I know who travel for Clapton only one person may do Nashville.
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He could have made more money doing 3 nights at Madison Square Garden and 3 nights at Staples with less travel. This was done either because or as a result of the lack of Covid restrictions.
Ticket prices are steep. Lets see how well the sales go. I am unlikely for any of them and of all the people I know who travel for Clapton only one person may do Nashville.
agree...but, I don't think NYC was "open" (ie. "ready") when all the arrangements needed to be made....which I guess is part of "Covid restrictions"
I have no idea, though....he didn't call me to help him w/ the bookings.
what is Staples Center? Is that the Boston Garden?
I think Great Woods was once known as Staples Center or Verizon Center.
...or something.
I'm old.
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He could have made more money doing 3 nights at Madison Square Garden and 3 nights at Staples with less travel. This was done either because or as a result of the lack of Covid restrictions.
Ticket prices are steep. Lets see how well the sales go. I am unlikely for any of them and of all the people I know who travel for Clapton only one person may do Nashville.
Its illegal to do that in Florida. It may be in Texas as well. You read that right. It is against the law to ask for vaccination status.
Oh yeah I forgot that my favorite Guitarist pulled a Gene and Paul we are retiring until the next time we hit the road and tour . Maybe his ailments are better now ? Incredible I guess .Quote
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He could have made more money doing 3 nights at Madison Square Garden and 3 nights at Staples with less travel. This was done either because or as a result of the lack of Covid restrictions.
Ticket prices are steep. Lets see how well the sales go. I am unlikely for any of them and of all the people I know who travel for Clapton only one person may do Nashville.
agree...but, I don't think NYC was "open" (ie. "ready") when all the arrangements needed to be made....which I guess is part of "Covid restrictions"
I have no idea, though....he didn't call me to help him w/ the bookings.
what is Staples Center? Is that the Boston Garden?
I think Great Woods was once known as Staples Center or Verizon Center.
...or something.
I'm old.
MSG is open for full capacity with vaccination or negative test. Staples center [en.wikipedia.org] is where the L.A. Lakers and L.A. Clippers play in Los Angeles, California. When Clapton said he was done touring a few years ago and sold out multi show runs at both arenas. These are two of the largest arenas and in the two largest metropolitan areas. If he wanted to do 8 shows, he could have added 2 in Chicago or Dallas and would have made a lot more than the tour as booked.
He may have questionable political views which he is certainly entitled to . The real reason about the Southern states is easy money with no restrictions . All about the $Quote
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He’s sad and confused in that interview clip. I’ve seen Eric many times, going back to 1974. I doubt I’ll go to see him again.
Playing only southern, red states.
Political decision?
Only places that wanted him after his latest musical collaboration?
Only places where no COVID precautions required?
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I think Great Woods was once known as Staples Center or Verizon Center.
...or something.
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He’s sad and confused in that interview clip. I’ve seen Eric many times, going back to 1974. I doubt I’ll go to see him again.
Playing only southern, red states.
Political decision?
Only places that wanted him after his latest musical collaboration?
Only places where no COVID precautions required?
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Look at the comments and the number of approvals...a mass gathering of covidiots.
E.C. is an Echo Chamber.