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In my opinion, things must be contextualized, like some terms used in the past and today not very pleasant.
I don't think Clapton is racist, or rather we are all racists, the difference is the culture of the people and I find it hard to believe that Clapton's always musically blues culture makes him a racist. He may have taken a tough stance on immigration, but that doesn't mean being racist.
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In my opinion, things must be contextualized, like some terms used in the past and today not very pleasant.
I don't think Clapton is racist, or rather we are all racists, the difference is the culture of the people and I find it hard to believe that Clapton's always musically blues culture makes him a racist. He may have taken a tough stance on immigration, but that doesn't mean being racist.
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Did Eric Clapton Once Unleash a Racist Rant Onstage? by Dan MacGuill
Over the years, several purported transcripts have emerged, with various differences and points of commonality. It appears no recording of Clapton’s racist rant exists, so its exact wording is open to dispute, and we can’t verify the verbatim accuracy of any given set of direct quotations.
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Did Eric Clapton Once Unleash a Racist Rant Onstage? by Dan MacGuill
Over the years, several purported transcripts have emerged, with various differences and points of commonality. It appears no recording of Clapton’s racist rant exists, so its exact wording is open to dispute, and we can’t verify the verbatim accuracy of any given set of direct quotations.
When you judge somebody, do it fairly.
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RisingStone
I personally feel I can’t rule out the possibility the reporter of Clapton’s infamous “quote” did the job by writing down what the punters told him or her, rather than the candid verbatim account, a word for word transcription of what Clapton articulated on stage, based on the audio-recorded source. The obscurity of where it was published in the first place and who typed it out also makes me have some reservations about its validity.
Don’t get me wrong, I am certain Clapton made a racist remark along with the support for Enoch Powell that night, which is inexcusable. I’m afraid, though, I wonder if his statement might have been warped in some way or other by an inadequate way of putting it in words, especially when you consider the significance of the results his speech brought about in the music world and beyond, the impact it caused. A live tape — I’m sure someone taped the gig — would be the indisputable evidence.
Okay Clapton doesn’t publicly deny the quote himself, either — but most likely he doesn’t remember what he said in a drunken state, which was of common occurrence in the mid-70’s.
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terraplane
At the last Crossroads benefit concert that B.B.King appeared at he said (paraphrasing) “I have been all round the world met kings and queens and none of them were as great a gentleman as Eric Clapton”.
Good enough for me
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At the last Crossroads benefit concert that B.B.King appeared at he said (paraphrasing) “I have been all round the world met kings and queens and none of them were as great a gentleman as Eric Clapton”.
Good enough for me
Yet there's people who don't know him, and/or have never even met him, who will continue to judge him for something nasty he said in a drunken state decades ago.
Not sure if this is the same show you were at, but here's a great clip from the Crossroads Festival 2010 w/BB, Clapton, Robert Cray, and Jimmie Vaughan:
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At the last Crossroads benefit concert that B.B.King appeared at he said (paraphrasing) “I have been all round the world met kings and queens and none of them were as great a gentleman as Eric Clapton”.
Good enough for me
Yet there's people who don't know him, and/or have never even met him, who will continue to judge him for something nasty he said in a drunken state decades ago.
Not sure if this is the same show you were at, but here's a great clip from the Crossroads Festival 2010 w/BB, Clapton, Robert Cray, and Jimmie Vaughan:
Clapton at the end there, just sublime playing.
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Nikkei
I rather judge him by the measure that he bores me stiff every time. The thrill is gone? When was there even a thrill in the first place
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Nikkei
I rather judge him by the measure that he bores me stiff every time. The thrill is gone? When was there even a thrill in the first place
This is true and it is in the Eric Clapton- Life in 12 Bars DVD , which is a career retrospective and it is discussed in the DVD and shows footage from the concert where EC made the rant . Smoking gun included with the actually proof .Quote
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Did Eric Clapton Once Unleash a Racist Rant Onstage? by Dan MacGuill
Over the years, several purported transcripts have emerged, with various differences and points of commonality. It appears no recording of Clapton’s racist rant exists, so its exact wording is open to dispute, and we can’t verify the verbatim accuracy of any given set of direct quotations.
When you judge somebody, do it fairly.
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Nikkei
I recognize the technicality of it, but there's nothing to feel.
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I recognize the technicality of it, but there's nothing to feel.
Each to their own, i admit he did get boring and slowed everything down as he got older but if you can't feel Little Wing above , what does make you feel ?
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jbwelda
He remember it because he has to live with himself every day and I am sure he is well acquainted with his own beliefs. As I said before, drunkenness does not cause people to think things, it causes them to say what they believe. Reduced inhibitions are a known effect of alcohol consumption and in fact pretty much the reason for consuming it.
The guy had plenty of chances to redeem himself for his remarks; I doubt he took the opportunity which speaks volumes of his true thoughts.
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Did Eric Clapton Once Unleash a Racist Rant Onstage? by Dan MacGuill
Over the years, several purported transcripts have emerged, with various differences and points of commonality. It appears no recording of Clapton’s racist rant exists, so its exact wording is open to dispute, and we can’t verify the verbatim accuracy of any given set of direct quotations.
When you judge somebody, do it fairly.
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jbwelda
>Do you mean to say, he recollects his words uttered in the drunken state as
>exactly as transcribed in the quote of unknown origin, word-for-word mostly if not entirely?
I thought what I said was pretty clear: he knows what he thinks and how he views the world and those in it. Whether he communicates that honestly at any given point in time is another issue, but evidently he did pretty succinctly at some point, whether we have a word-for-word quote or merely a synopsis of his speech. I doubt he recalls his words verbatim but I bet he could recreate the prose pretty accurately off the top of his head. And I am sure he has, just not to me personally.
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And yeah, out of any crowd I bet you can find two people who described an incident that must have happened on another planet. Especially after 20 or so years have passed by.
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Personally I think dude peaked as a guitarist around about Live Peace In Toronto, and I loved the look he gave Yoko when she appeared on stage. I don't think that was because she was Japanese though, so kinda off topic.
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In my opinion, things must be contextualized, like some terms used in the past and today not very pleasant.
I don't think Clapton is racist, or rather we are all racists, the difference is the culture of the people and I find it hard to believe that Clapton's always musically blues culture makes him a racist. He may have taken a tough stance on immigration, but that doesn't mean being racist.
"Get the wogs out" is both discriminating and racist.
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Rocktiludrop
white people are constantly being attacked verbally and physically because of their colour, ( critical race theory, white privilege, karens, white trash ) they are being taught to hate themselves in schools now on the Mother of guilt trips, let's be honest here, your average black man is more racist that your average white
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white people are constantly being attacked verbally and physically because of their colour, ( critical race theory, white privilege, karens, white trash ) they are being taught to hate themselves in schools now on the Mother of guilt trips, let's be honest here, your average black man is more racist that your average white
To all the others: please don't feed the troll. Don't answer on messages like this that have only been written to provoke other people. Let him have his opinion. Nothing will change it. Trying to answer stuff like this with good arguments is just useless. I'm sure Bjornulf will take care of it.