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Bellajane
Good Riddance!! He was a brutal monster. Two down...three more to go. What I really don't understand about this case is when the Manson Murderers' death sentence was commuted to life, why the little clause "without the possibility of parole" wasn't factored in? Unfortunately this did not happen and the families of the victims (especially Sharon Tate's mother and sister) attended every parole hearing. Never mind the cost to the taxpayers. Not that I'm in favor of the death penalty but, you know, sometimes the punishment fits the crime and these criminals should have been dead long ago. This story haunts me to this day.
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Nate
People like that should have a bullet to the head immediately after being convicted.It is a disgrace that tax money is used to keep people like that alive when the money could be used for worthwhile things like hospitals and education.
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Nate
People like that should have a bullet to the head immediately after being convicted.It is a disgrace that tax money is used to keep people like that alive when the money could be used for worthwhile things like hospitals and education.
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Our justice system is much more vital and important than any one person.
Dozens,if not hundreds, of people sentenced to death or life have been exonerated afterwards by DNA or other evidence. Putting a "bullet to the head" puts us in the same murderous category as the killers. No thanks.
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Nate
People like that should have a bullet to the head immediately after being convicted.It is a disgrace that tax money is used to keep people like that alive when the money could be used for worthwhile things like hospitals and education.
Nate
Our justice system is much more vital and important than any one person.
Dozens,if not hundreds, of people sentenced to death or life have been exonerated afterwards by DNA or other evidence. Putting a "bullet to the head" puts us in the same murderous category as the killers. No thanks.
Even in this case, I agree with you. “Hard cases make bad law.” In other words, if you write the laws that apply to everyone in order to suit the one worst case, the entire system becomes less. Sometimes it ain’t perfect.
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Bellajane
Hi Bellajane - Also Bobby Beausoleil and Bruce Davis who helped kill Gary Hillman. Davis also killed Donald (Shorty) Shea.
Beausoleil was an early member of the famous LA band "Love" with Arthur Lee. He also wrote music for a version of the film Lucifer Rising.
Well, there were lots of crazies associated with the Manson Family. I think there was another guy Clem Grogan..not exactly sure of his name...who assisted with someone's murder. I believe there are probably bodies buried on that ranch that will never be found. And we can't forget Squeaky Fromm who tried to shoot President Ford!! How Manson turned a handful of flower-children into mass murderers is anyone's guess. So bizarre.
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keithsman
Manson arguably never actually physically killed anyone himself, so i guess he must hold the record for the most years served in prison for telling someone to kill somebody.
If i told my friends to kill people and they did i wouldn't expect to serve 50 + years in prison.
He always maintained his innocence right to the end, even though he new it ruined his chances of parole.
I don't consider him as evil as say Bush or Blair, sending soldiers to death on false pretenses of WOMD. People coming back from Iraq with limbs blown off, thousands of innocent people , women and children killed by friendly fire. The Bushes and Blairs of this world have more blood on their hands and are more evil than Manson imho.
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Nate
People like that should have a bullet to the head immediately after being convicted.It is a disgrace that tax money is used to keep people like that alive when the money could be used for worthwhile things like hospitals and education.
Nate
Our justice system is much more vital and important than any one person.
Dozens,if not hundreds, of people sentenced to death or life have been exonerated afterwards by DNA or other evidence. Putting a "bullet to the head" puts us in the same murderous category as the killers. No thanks.
Even in this case, I agree with you. “Hard cases make bad law.” In other words, if you write the laws that apply to everyone in order to suit the one worst case, the entire system becomes less. Sometimes it ain’t perfect.
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stonehearted
Cultural significance? Just because he name-checked a Beatles song or two? Ah, no.
This thread is just an excuse for people to vent about capital punishment and politics.
Charles Manson is no more an icon for the 60s than Ted Bundy was for law students.
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Sighunt
I have never been a proponent of the death penalty as a blanket sanction for all capitol crimes (with the exception of cop killers & killing by terrorists), but in this instance, Manson and his followers probably should have gotten the death penalty for their heinous acts against humanity....
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Cooltoplady
Manson's name is still synonymous with evil today. he is not just a 60's icon. Geeez....