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Stoneage
Do we not have enough Rolling Stones records by now? Maybe a hundred official releases (and re-releases) and thousands of non-official releases. How many do we need? Five hundred more?
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tomcasagranda
It should be a legitimate release, as a deluxe Wandering Spirit set.
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TheflyingDutchman
The other way around mate.. It makes Blue and Lonesome a superfluous release because of the superior musicianship by the Red Devils, the lead guitar in particular, to my taste. And of course, Jagger rules.
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TheflyingDutchman
The other way around mate.. It makes Blue and Lonesome a superfluous release because of the superior musicianship by the Red Devils, the (lead) guitar in particular. There's just much more going on musically, to my taste. And of course, Jagger rules.
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exhpart
I like the idea of a WS/Red Devils deluxe release ...only 1 song in common with B & L I think ...Everybody knows about my good thing. He could have done good things with Rick Rubin, but they fell out.
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exhpart
I like the idea of a WS/Red Devils deluxe release ...only 1 song in common with B & L I think ...Everybody knows about my good thing. He could have done good things with Rick Rubin, but they fell out.
Why did they fall out?
Money?
Women?
Drugs?
Can't think of any other reasons.
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Hairball
I grew up with Lester Butler (or simply "Les" as we knew him) in Santa Monica and used to hang out at the beach and buy weed from him in high school.
From small time high school party vocalist/harp player, to playing with Jagger - he made the big time and was the talk of the town. RIP.Quote
TheflyingDutchman
The other way around mate.. It makes Blue and Lonesome a superfluous release because of the superior musicianship by the Red Devils, the lead guitar in particular, to my taste. And of course, Jagger rules.
It's better than Blue and Lonesome by a long shot imo, and I'm pretty sure Mick plays none of the harp on it (it's all Les), but I could be wrong.
Official release unnecessary - there's plenty of bootlegs and it's all over youtube.
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Hairball
I grew up with Lester Butler (or simply "Les" as we knew him) in Santa Monica and used to hang out at the beach and buy weed from him in high school.
From small time high school party vocalist/harp player, to playing with Jagger - he made the big time and was the talk of the town. RIP.Quote
TheflyingDutchman
The other way around mate.. It makes Blue and Lonesome a superfluous release because of the superior musicianship by the Red Devils, the lead guitar in particular, to my taste. And of course, Jagger rules.
It's better than Blue and Lonesome by a long shot imo, and I'm pretty sure Mick plays none of the harp on it (it's all Les), but I could be wrong.
Official release unnecessary - there's plenty of bootlegs and it's all over youtube.
An official release of great performances is always necessary imo whenever the sound quality of the circulating bootlegs is unsatisfactory. This is the case here. There are quite some muffled and even audibly distorted tracks on the boots and no boot remastering could ever heal that. If those tracks sounded like the VL outtakes, I could agree with you. But not in this case.
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swimtothemoon
Yes a good CD. Why was it not officially released? I guess I have always assumed it was Mick’s decision - maybe trying to do something not too close to Stones sound as he was striving to do something a little different in his solo career.
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LeonidP
Don't see the point really since we all have it, but still, if it was officially released, I would definitely buy it!
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Hairball
I grew up with Lester Butler (or simply "Les" as we knew him) in Santa Monica and used to hang out at the beach and buy weed from him in high school.
From small time high school party vocalist/harp player, to playing with Jagger - he made the big time and was the talk of the town. RIP.Quote
TheflyingDutchman
The other way around mate.. It makes Blue and Lonesome a superfluous release because of the superior musicianship by the Red Devils, the lead guitar in particular, to my taste. And of course, Jagger rules.
It's better than Blue and Lonesome by a long shot imo, and I'm pretty sure Mick plays none of the harp on it (it's all Les), but I could be wrong.
Official release unnecessary - there's plenty of bootlegs and it's all over youtube.
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Hairball
I grew up with Lester Butler (or simply "Les" as we knew him) in Santa Monica and used to hang out at the beach and buy weed from him in high school.
From small time high school party vocalist/harp player, to playing with Jagger - he made the big time and was the talk of the town. RIP.Quote
TheflyingDutchman
The other way around mate.. It makes Blue and Lonesome a superfluous release because of the superior musicianship by the Red Devils, the lead guitar in particular, to my taste. And of course, Jagger rules.
It's better than Blue and Lonesome by a long shot imo, and I'm pretty sure Mick plays none of the harp on it (it's all Les), but I could be wrong.
Official release unnecessary - there's plenty of bootlegs and it's all over youtube.
Great story. Jagger doesn't play Harp on it. Here's one without Jagger:
[www.youtube.com]
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DandelionPowderman
Not released for a reason, imo. I don't think Mick liked the sound of this.
Hard rock blues..
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DandelionPowderman
Not released for a reason, imo. I don't think Mick liked the sound of this.
Hard rock blues..
If Mick thought the album would sell....and make him even more dosh...then surely it would be released?
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DandelionPowderman
Not released for a reason, imo. I don't think Mick liked the sound of this.
Hard rock blues..
If Mick thought the album would sell....and make him even more dosh...then surely it would be released?
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swimtothemoon
Yes a good CD. Why was it not officially released? I guess I have always assumed it was Mick’s decision - maybe trying to do something not too close to Stones sound as he was striving to do something a little different in his solo career.
Rubin forced Jagger to spend a few hours of studio time with the Red Devils. That's part of Rubin's method. He talks musicians into getting back to their roots. For Jagger it was logically the blues.
Alas Jagger most certainly didn't like the experience as what he likes best is chasing new musical trends, not reviving things he did when he was 20-25.
Another failed "Rubin experience" was with AC/DC : I speculate here but when he talked the Young Brothers into going back to their roots they probably looked at each others and thought "you @#$%&! Our amps are old, our guitars are old, even the tubes in our Marshall are from the 60's. We DO go back to our roots every time we hit a chord! You won't teach us sh!t!"