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Maybe I am being stupid: Pyro inside or outside the arena :-/
I get the impression Keith isn't interested in playing SFTD anymore, he's done with it, he just treats it as a meet and greet to the crowd. Rightfully so. He's not interested in Miss You either, can you blame him.
Don't let those two songs detract from a brilliant performance from Keith, he was so much better than Ronnie last night.
Never have thought of Keith and Ronnie in terms of a competition really, and at this stage not going to start. Even when one is having an exceptional night, it's always been more .. Ronnie was on fire tonight, or Keith.
Both Miss You and SFTD should be retired and replaced with 4 songs.
Agreed jumpontopofmebaby i think most of us realize Keith can no longer do justice to SFTD and should not be forced to play a song he struggles with.
Mick certainly would not sing a song he feels he struggles with, especially as we haven't heard Keith shine on Sympathy since before 2012. Miss You is a complete waste of an opportunity to play two other songs such as Ruby Tuesday or Jigsaw Puzzle, songs that would also go down well with the crowd but would not mean a toilet brake for most of us.
Thank you MisterDDDD i did indeed get my fix from Keith.
Its strange how keith and Ronnie instinctively cover for each other, thankfully we never get a night when they both can't play. Its a pity we seldom get nights when they are both on fire, although we occasionally do i guess.
I just felt a little disappointed that just as Keith gets his game together Ronnie is sliding.
Its not that Ronnie was terrible or anything, but i felt concerned for him, when you see that gaunt face on those giant video screens you just get the feeling all is not well with Mr Wood. Hope i am wrong.
Well, I guess it is taste. I prefer Miss you to Ruby Tuesday. I love Miss you very much, have played it live many times and enjoy the band during that tune a lot.
Yes it is down to taste, of course its a crowd pleaser but i was under the impression most people from iorr are tired of it after it being played live for all these years. I get the impression Keith is tired of it also. Personally i never need to hear it again live.
Show complete now!
If anyone want to add their recordings it is very welcome and will be appreciated.
I can’t disagree with this.
It is possible to take the VIP1 stuff after the show. You have to show your pit ticket and the other one for the stuff to a stand with a red flag on the left of the exit (inside the room). I have done it yesterday.
Yes I agree too. The 2007 leg of ABB wasn't great until they got to London.
That's great thanks for the information
Nate
That's fantastic
It's just so brilliant to see someone of his age with still so much passion and enthusiasm for what he does it's just awesome
Nate
Lovely to see Mick enjoying himself. After all the hard work he puts in he deserves it.
Hey Topi, same dog as in Hamburg?
Yup! The pouring rain is going to kill all hopes for any autographs...even from the dog.
stone4ever, you may be right. But the total of all iorr-people present at any Stones concert make up less than 1% of the audience. And although this forum should not be about politics - I dislike when it is just about the 1%-people when clearly 99% want sth different.
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Re: Paris show-2 France 22-Oct-2017 Stones No Filter live show updates
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schwonek
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Date: October 23, 2017 16:06
Maybe I am being stupid: Pyro inside or outside the arena :-/
Re: Paris show-2 France 22-Oct-2017 Stones No Filter live show updates
Posted by:
stone4ever
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Date: October 23, 2017 16:12
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Like in Sympathy. Normally he steps forward and attempts a solo.
Now he just went to the sides and barely played a note.
I get the impression Keith isn't interested in playing SFTD anymore, he's done with it, he just treats it as a meet and greet to the crowd. Rightfully so. He's not interested in Miss You either, can you blame him.
Don't let those two songs detract from a brilliant performance from Keith, he was so much better than Ronnie last night.
Re: Paris show-2 France 22-Oct-2017 Stones No Filter live show updates
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Cristiano Radtke
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Date: October 23, 2017 16:14
Re: Paris show-2 France 22-Oct-2017 Stones No Filter live show updates
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MisterDDDD
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Date: October 23, 2017 16:52
Glad you got your Keith fix on stone4ever..Quote
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Like in Sympathy. Normally he steps forward and attempts a solo.
Now he just went to the sides and barely played a note.
I get the impression Keith isn't interested in playing SFTD anymore, he's done with it, he just treats it as a meet and greet to the crowd. Rightfully so. He's not interested in Miss You either, can you blame him.
Don't let those two songs detract from a brilliant performance from Keith, he was so much better than Ronnie last night.
Never have thought of Keith and Ronnie in terms of a competition really, and at this stage not going to start. Even when one is having an exceptional night, it's always been more .. Ronnie was on fire tonight, or Keith.
Re: Paris show-2 France 22-Oct-2017 Stones No Filter live show updates
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Date: October 23, 2017 16:54
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Like in Sympathy. Normally he steps forward and attempts a solo.
Now he just went to the sides and barely played a note.
I get the impression Keith isn't interested in playing SFTD anymore, he's done with it, he just treats it as a meet and greet to the crowd. Rightfully so. He's not interested in Miss You either, can you blame him.
Don't let those two songs detract from a brilliant performance from Keith, he was so much better than Ronnie last night.
Never have thought of Keith and Ronnie in terms of a competition really, and at this stage not going to start. Even when one is having an exceptional night, it's always been more .. Ronnie was on fire tonight, or Keith.
Re: Paris show-2 France 22-Oct-2017 Stones No Filter live show updates
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jumpontopofmebaby
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Date: October 23, 2017 16:55
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Like in Sympathy. Normally he steps forward and attempts a solo.
Now he just went to the sides and barely played a note.
I get the impression Keith isn't interested in playing SFTD anymore, he's done with it, he just treats it as a meet and greet to the crowd. Rightfully so. He's not interested in Miss You either, can you blame him.
Don't let those two songs detract from a brilliant performance from Keith, he was so much better than Ronnie last night.
Never have thought of Keith and Ronnie in terms of a competition really, and at this stage not going to start. Even when one is having an exceptional night, it's always been more .. Ronnie was on fire tonight, or Keith.
Both Miss You and SFTD should be retired and replaced with 4 songs.
Re: Paris show-2 France 22-Oct-2017 Stones No Filter live show updates
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stone4ever
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Date: October 23, 2017 17:12
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Like in Sympathy. Normally he steps forward and attempts a solo.
Now he just went to the sides and barely played a note.
I get the impression Keith isn't interested in playing SFTD anymore, he's done with it, he just treats it as a meet and greet to the crowd. Rightfully so. He's not interested in Miss You either, can you blame him.
Don't let those two songs detract from a brilliant performance from Keith, he was so much better than Ronnie last night.
Never have thought of Keith and Ronnie in terms of a competition really, and at this stage not going to start. Even when one is having an exceptional night, it's always been more .. Ronnie was on fire tonight, or Keith.
Agreed jumpontopofmebaby i think most of us realize Keith can no longer do justice to SFTD and should not be forced to play a song he struggles with.
Mick certainly would not sing a song he feels he struggles with, especially as we haven't heard Keith shine on Sympathy since before 2012. Miss You is a complete waste of an opportunity to play two other songs such as Ruby Tuesday or Jigsaw Puzzle, songs that would also go down well with the crowd but would not mean a toilet brake for most of us.
Thank you MisterDDDD i did indeed get my fix from Keith.
Its strange how keith and Ronnie instinctively cover for each other, thankfully we never get a night when they both can't play. Its a pity we seldom get nights when they are both on fire, although we occasionally do i guess.
I just felt a little disappointed that just as Keith gets his game together Ronnie is sliding.
Its not that Ronnie was terrible or anything, but i felt concerned for him, when you see that gaunt face on those giant video screens you just get the feeling all is not well with Mr Wood. Hope i am wrong.
Re: Paris show-2 France 22-Oct-2017 Stones No Filter live show updates
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Date: October 23, 2017 17:23
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stone4everMiss You is a complete waste of an opportunity to play two other songs such as Ruby Tuesday or Jigsaw Puzzle.Quote
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BowieStone
Like in Sympathy. Normally he steps forward and attempts a solo.
Now he just went to the sides and barely played a note.
I get the impression Keith isn't interested in playing SFTD anymore.
Well, I guess it is taste. I prefer Miss you to Ruby Tuesday. I love Miss you very much, have played it live many times and enjoy the band during that tune a lot.
Re: Paris show-2 France 22-Oct-2017 Stones No Filter live show updates
Posted by:
FrogSugar
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Date: October 23, 2017 17:38
Those who are still in Paris may want to go to this free Stones photo exhibit in the posh 6th arrondissement:
[www.lagaleriedelinstant.com]
Features the photography of Dominique Tarlé, who shot those great pix during the Exile sessions! Just found out about it yesterday and haven't gone yet. Everyday until 20:00, October 29th is the last day.
[www.lagaleriedelinstant.com]
Features the photography of Dominique Tarlé, who shot those great pix during the Exile sessions! Just found out about it yesterday and haven't gone yet. Everyday until 20:00, October 29th is the last day.
Re: Paris show-2 France 22-Oct-2017 Stones No Filter live show updates
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stone4ever
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Date: October 23, 2017 17:44
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stone4everMiss You is a complete waste of an opportunity to play two other songs such as Ruby Tuesday or Jigsaw Puzzle.Quote
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MisterDDDDGlad you got your Keith fix on stone4ever..Quote
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BowieStone
Like in Sympathy. Normally he steps forward and attempts a solo.
Now he just went to the sides and barely played a note.
I get the impression Keith isn't interested in playing SFTD anymore.
Well, I guess it is taste. I prefer Miss you to Ruby Tuesday. I love Miss you very much, have played it live many times and enjoy the band during that tune a lot.
Yes it is down to taste, of course its a crowd pleaser but i was under the impression most people from iorr are tired of it after it being played live for all these years. I get the impression Keith is tired of it also. Personally i never need to hear it again live.
Re: Paris show-2 France 22-Oct-2017 Stones No Filter live show updates
Posted by:
Hairball
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Date: October 23, 2017 18:17
Sounds like a good time was had by all, and whether or not Keith was at his best (hard to say if he didn't play some of his trademark solos), or whether Ronnie was at his worst (maybe was simply overshadowed by Keith), the camaraderie on stage between the entire band seemed to make for an exceptional show. Plus the surprise factor of bumping Sympathy down the setlist where it belongs and opening with JJF must have been quite the rush. Maybe because Keith doesn't bother with the Sympathy solo they realized not the best song to start the ceremony with. Having it way down the list again, some of these details (crappy or no solo, etc.) can be somewhat overlooked, rather than being the first impression everybody gets from the band. And whether it was the opening song or not, those casual fans who are waiting to hear a blistering solo ala the studio version must be shaking their heads when they hear the mess Keith plays these days.
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Re: Paris show-2 France 22-Oct-2017 Stones No Filter live show updates
Posted by:
IGTBA
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Date: October 23, 2017 18:41
I don't understand how anyone can say Keith was better than Ronnie, or that Keith carried the show, for either Paris concert.
I love Keith, but he isn't playing that well. Ronnie, and the keyboards, carry the music, while Charlie and Darryl continue to provide great rhythm; and Mick carries the overall performance.
Keith (and everyone else) is having a great time; Keith's two songs are good; and he plays well enough for his age and condition. The Keith I'm seeing now is better than the last part of the ABB tour (although the final three O2 performances then were good); and Ronnie is much better than he was during ABB, but Keith has definitely dropped off from how well he was playing when they returned for the five London/NYC concerts, after the layoff following ABB. Keith deserves credit for the great music he created, but Ronnie deserves credit for carrying Keith now. Ronnie is working hard most of the time - and may not be having as much fun as Keith, but that's because Ronnie needs to be ON and cover for Keith.
I love Keith, but he isn't playing that well. Ronnie, and the keyboards, carry the music, while Charlie and Darryl continue to provide great rhythm; and Mick carries the overall performance.
Keith (and everyone else) is having a great time; Keith's two songs are good; and he plays well enough for his age and condition. The Keith I'm seeing now is better than the last part of the ABB tour (although the final three O2 performances then were good); and Ronnie is much better than he was during ABB, but Keith has definitely dropped off from how well he was playing when they returned for the five London/NYC concerts, after the layoff following ABB. Keith deserves credit for the great music he created, but Ronnie deserves credit for carrying Keith now. Ronnie is working hard most of the time - and may not be having as much fun as Keith, but that's because Ronnie needs to be ON and cover for Keith.
Re: Paris show-2 France 22-Oct-2017 Stones No Filter live show updates
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Date: October 23, 2017 19:02
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Great setlist - this seems to be an extra special show.
Looking forward to seeing and hearing JJF, the blues covers, Angie, Happy, and Midnight Rambler via youtube videos.
Thank you!
You are welcome!
Only missing a complete SFM for the whole show!
Show complete now!
If anyone want to add their recordings it is very welcome and will be appreciated.
Re: Paris show-2 France 22-Oct-2017 Stones No Filter live show updates
Posted by:
BowieStone
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Date: October 23, 2017 19:02
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IGTBA
I don't understand how anyone can say Keith was better than Ronnie, or that Keith carried the show, for either Paris concert.
I love Keith, but he isn't playing that well. Ronnie, and the keyboards, carry the music, while Charlie and Darryl continue to provide great rhythm; and Mick carries the overall performance.
I can’t disagree with this.
Re: Paris show-2 France 22-Oct-2017 Stones No Filter live show updates
Posted by:
Nate
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Date: October 23, 2017 19:33
What's the deal with this VIP package garbage do they insist on picking it up before the concert or is it possible to pick up after the concert and if before the concert is it possible to hand the bag to someone else before entering the pit?
Thanks
Nate
Thanks
Nate
Re: Paris show-2 France 22-Oct-2017 Stones No Filter live show updates
Posted by:
stonesfrkk
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Date: October 23, 2017 19:39
I agree BowieStone ! They were on Fire early on in Amsterdam and Arnhem to me was the best gig of this entire no filter Tour Arnhem was over the top! You hit the nail on it's head!!!Quote
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Just want to add: I’m not a Keith basher. Love the guy.
Just thought he had better gigs this tour: especially Amsterdam & Arnhem.
And Paris #1 was better than Paris #2.
Re: Paris show-2 France 22-Oct-2017 Stones No Filter live show updates
Posted by:
RiffKichards
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Date: October 23, 2017 19:47
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Nate
What's the deal with this VIP package garbage do they insist on picking it up before the concert or is it possible to pick up after the concert and if before the concert is it possible to hand the bag to someone else before entering the pit?
Thanks
Nate
It is possible to take the VIP1 stuff after the show. You have to show your pit ticket and the other one for the stuff to a stand with a red flag on the left of the exit (inside the room). I have done it yesterday.
Re: Paris show-2 France 22-Oct-2017 Stones No Filter live show updates
Posted by:
frankotero
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Date: October 23, 2017 19:47
Hmm, starting to sound like personal preference to me. Nothing wrong with that either. Personally I like Paris2 best. The gigs I saw were Hamburg, Dusseldorf, Arnhem and of course Paris2 my favorite of all. They were all special for different reasons sometimes. For instance I loved the street fest in Arnhem where I got to speak with a few fans. Hamburg of course we got Play With Fire and 22 songs. Dusseldorf was a blistering performance in my opinion. I love them all, but this gig even took my higher.
Re: Paris show-2 France 22-Oct-2017 Stones No Filter live show updates
Posted by:
Cristiano Radtke
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Date: October 23, 2017 19:52
This short video can give us a glimpse of how much fun Mick was having backstage: [www.instagram.com]
Re: Paris show-2 France 22-Oct-2017 Stones No Filter live show updates
Posted by:
barbabang
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Date: October 23, 2017 19:54
"The Keith I'm seeing now is better than the last part of the ABB tour (although the final three O2 performances then were good);"
I agree with you there IGTBA.
I agree with you there IGTBA.
Re: Paris show-2 France 22-Oct-2017 Stones No Filter live show updates
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Topi
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Date: October 23, 2017 20:04
Sights seen today: Marlon Richards, Patti Hansen, dog, Ronnie and his family.
Re: Paris show-2 France 22-Oct-2017 Stones No Filter live show updates
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john lomax
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Date: October 23, 2017 20:04
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barbabang
"The Keith I'm seeing now is better than the last part of the ABB tour (although the final three O2 performances then were good);"
I agree with you there IGTBA.
Yes I agree too. The 2007 leg of ABB wasn't great until they got to London.
Re: Paris show-2 France 22-Oct-2017 Stones No Filter live show updates
Posted by:
Nate
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Date: October 23, 2017 20:04
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Nate
What's the deal with this VIP package garbage do they insist on picking it up before the concert or is it possible to pick up after the concert and if before the concert is it possible to hand the bag to someone else before entering the pit?
Thanks
Nate
It is possible to take the VIP1 stuff after the show. You have to show your pit ticket and the other one for the stuff to a stand with a red flag on the left of the exit (inside the room). I have done it yesterday.
That's great thanks for the information
Nate
Re: Paris show-2 France 22-Oct-2017 Stones No Filter live show updates
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Nate
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Date: October 23, 2017 20:09
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This short video can give us a glimpse of how much fun Mick was having backstage: [www.instagram.com]
That's fantastic
It's just so brilliant to see someone of his age with still so much passion and enthusiasm for what he does it's just awesome
Nate
Re: Paris show-2 France 22-Oct-2017 Stones No Filter live show updates
Posted by:
crumbling_mice
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Date: October 23, 2017 20:18
SFTD shouldn't be retired, it should be re-worked and more dark guitar riffs added and take out the karaoke elements. I'll give Chuck credit for playing better piano on the opening though, it was a real bug bear of mine on the last tour when he played that dreadful intro.
SFTD is one of the greatest Stones songs but has lost it's way a little. It wouldn't take much for Ronnie to play the opening like the GYYAs and Love you live versions and then get a real samba beat going....I reckon Keith could still play a half decent solo on it if he wanted to rather than those awful licks he's squeezed to death on the last few tours.
Seems like it was a good gig and the clips attest to that....certainly the band seemed relaxed and enjoying themselves, Thursday beckons.....then a winter off and back to the good old Uk!
SFTD is one of the greatest Stones songs but has lost it's way a little. It wouldn't take much for Ronnie to play the opening like the GYYAs and Love you live versions and then get a real samba beat going....I reckon Keith could still play a half decent solo on it if he wanted to rather than those awful licks he's squeezed to death on the last few tours.
Seems like it was a good gig and the clips attest to that....certainly the band seemed relaxed and enjoying themselves, Thursday beckons.....then a winter off and back to the good old Uk!
Re: Paris show-2 France 22-Oct-2017 Stones No Filter live show updates
Posted by:
Georges
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Date: October 23, 2017 20:19
GREAT GIG!
Re: Paris show-2 France 22-Oct-2017 Stones No Filter live show updates
Posted by:
Green Lady
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Date: October 23, 2017 20:39
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This short video can give us a glimpse of how much fun Mick was having backstage: [www.instagram.com]
That's fantastic
It's just so brilliant to see someone of his age with still so much passion and enthusiasm for what he does it's just awesome
Nate
Lovely to see Mick enjoying himself. After all the hard work he puts in he deserves it.
Re: Paris show-2 France 22-Oct-2017 Stones No Filter live show updates
Posted by:
schwonek
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Date: October 23, 2017 20:40
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Topi
Sights seen today: Marlon Richards, Patti Hansen, dog, Ronnie and his family.
Hey Topi, same dog as in Hamburg?
Re: Paris show-2 France 22-Oct-2017 Stones No Filter live show updates
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Topi
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Date: October 23, 2017 20:44
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Topi
Sights seen today: Marlon Richards, Patti Hansen, dog, Ronnie and his family.
Hey Topi, same dog as in Hamburg?
Yup! The pouring rain is going to kill all hopes for any autographs...even from the dog.
Re: Paris show-2 France 22-Oct-2017 Stones No Filter live show updates
Posted by:
schwonek
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Date: October 23, 2017 20:45
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stone4ever
... but i was under the impression most people from iorr are tired of it after it being played live for all these years.
stone4ever, you may be right. But the total of all iorr-people present at any Stones concert make up less than 1% of the audience. And although this forum should not be about politics - I dislike when it is just about the 1%-people when clearly 99% want sth different.
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