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beno
It is not particular to Keith's block.
This tour has the most stable setlist since decades (I guess in the 70's they used to operate also with a more or less fixed set. Basicly its 20 songs, the exact same order, and only the 6th and 7th numbers vary. There are only a few shows of exceptions so far.
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powerage78
Sleeping away is great.
I prefer A Little TNA, Keith's timeless ode to Global Force Wrestling.Quote
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Sleeping away is great.
He could play "(Better Get Some) Slip Tonight" every once in a while, though.
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powerage78
Sleeping away is great.
He could play "(Better Get Some) Slip Tonight" every once in a while, though.
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Olly
Damn.
Whilst I'm pleased the Stones are still putting on shows, performances like the one above almost make me wish they'd called it quits after the O2 in 2007. We're now looking at a very different band. I don't know whether it was the five year hiatus or something to do with approaching/turning 70, but the difference in the band's appearance and performance from 2007 to 2012-present amazes me.
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Damn.
Whilst I'm pleased the Stones are still putting on shows, performances like the one above almost make me wish they'd called it quits after the O2 in 2007. We're now looking at a very different band. I don't know whether it was the five year hiatus or something to do with approaching/turning 70, but the difference in the band's appearance and performance from 2007 to 2012-present amazes me.
True - there's SO MUCH MORE ENERGY and VIBRANCY in that clip above compared to we're seeing and hearing today...but the show must go on...keep on rolling.
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Olly
Damn.
Whilst I'm pleased the Stones are still putting on shows, performances like the one above almost make me wish they'd called it quits after the O2 in 2007. We're now looking at a very different band. I don't know whether it was the five year hiatus or something to do with approaching/turning 70, but the difference in the band's appearance and performance from 2007 to 2012-present amazes me.
True - there's SO MUCH MORE ENERGY and VIBRANCY in that clip above compared to we're seeing and hearing today...but the show must go on...keep on rolling.
A great version, even though I remember hearing Happy from Rio '06 and thinking ''Oh it was so much better at MSG 2003''. But now with recent versions in memory it's indeed great.
And just to remember ourselves of the kind of energy the Stones used to put out just 10 years ago, listen to this Jumping Jack Flash from 2007: [youtu.be] So different from now...
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Hard to believe that only a couple of months after that massive Rio show, Keith's head injury occurred and changed everything.
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Hairball
Yeah I recall thinking it wasn't that great either in comparison to earlier versions, but as you said compared to these recent versions it's almost like night and day.
I've been watching alot of Licks videos recently, and the all around energy and vibe is tenfold to todays performances. That isn't a whine or a complaint, just an observation of Father Time taking it's toll.
Maybe in fifteen from now if they're still touring we'll look back on these current performances more fondly.
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Yeah I recall thinking it wasn't that great either in comparison to earlier versions, but as you said compared to these recent versions it's almost like night and day.
I've been watching alot of Licks videos recently, and the all around energy and vibe is tenfold to todays performances. That isn't a whine or a complaint, just an observation of Father Time taking it's toll.
Maybe in fifteen from now if they're still touring we'll look back on these current performances more fondly.
If you watch Licks videos, the band was consistently great, and the difference from now is both Keith, Mick and Charlie. Charlie used to hit the drums harder and did those aggressive fills that drove the songs forward, Mick had a more powerful voice and Keith was more reliable. But as you say it's not whining, it is what it is, no one can escape aging. There are still moments today when the Stones play well compared to their past, Sweet Virginia in Stockholm or She's So Cold in Arnhem comes to mind.
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Yeah I recall thinking it wasn't that great either in comparison to earlier versions, but as you said compared to these recent versions it's almost like night and day.
I've been watching alot of Licks videos recently, and the all around energy and vibe is tenfold to todays performances. That isn't a whine or a complaint, just an observation of Father Time taking it's toll.
Maybe in fifteen from now if they're still touring we'll look back on these current performances more fondly.
If you watch Licks videos, the band was consistently great, and the difference from now is both Keith, Mick and Charlie. Charlie used to hit the drums harder and did those aggressive fills that drove the songs forward, Mick had a more powerful voice and Keith was more reliable. But as you say it's not whining, it is what it is, no one can escape aging. There are still moments today when the Stones play well compared to their past, Sweet Virginia in Stockholm or She's So Cold in Arnhem comes to mind.
I attended quite a few of those Licks shows (stadium, arena, and theater) and even then at the time I felt they were losing a bit of pep in their step compared to previous tours I had seen them. But when the ABB shows were happening (in which I saw a few), I realized how much better they were during Licks. And then for 50 and Counting Mick Taylor really saved the day and it was still worthwhile to see several shows in my neck of the woods (and Vegas), but by Zip Code I chose to see one show - the San Diego opener - and that was enough. Never thought I'd want to see them again, but then Desert Trip happened and it was part of the package. One grand finale the following week in *Vegas with heavily discounted tickets, and that's all she wrote imo. The decline has been gradual, but seems to have accelerated these last few years. That said, glad they're still out there rolling, and for the many people who can still find joy in seeing them.
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Hard to believe that only a couple of months after that massive Rio show, Keith's head injury occurred and changed everything.
Yes, I hadn't taken that into consideration. Keith has faced challenges in recent years. Charlie is the oldest member of the band and has been the 'old man' of the band for decades. Ronnie's now the most energetic of the bunch, despite, or maybe because of, his recent health scare.
This isn't the thread for it, but.. what of Mick? I notice there's a thread to critique Keith's guitar playing, but what about Mick's performance? The vocals are becoming increasingly clipped and the change in his gait is noticeable. He has been mincing, rather than swaggering, across the stage since 2012. There's the possibility of some osteoporosis or other condition I suppose.
I wonder if the Stones, like professional athletes, have nutritionists and other professionals to advise them? I remember at the end of the Twickenham show on Four Flicks seeing Keith and Charlie being ushered into hooded white bath robes and Charlie being handed what looked like a protein shake.
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Yeah I recall thinking it wasn't that great either in comparison to earlier versions, but as you said compared to these recent versions it's almost like night and day.
I've been watching alot of Licks videos recently, and the all around energy and vibe is tenfold to todays performances. That isn't a whine or a complaint, just an observation of Father Time taking it's toll.
Maybe in fifteen from now if they're still touring we'll look back on these current performances more fondly.
If you watch Licks videos, the band was consistently great, and the difference from now is both Keith, Mick and Charlie. Charlie used to hit the drums harder and did those aggressive fills that drove the songs forward, Mick had a more powerful voice and Keith was more reliable. But as you say it's not whining, it is what it is, no one can escape aging. There are still moments today when the Stones play well compared to their past, Sweet Virginia in Stockholm or She's So Cold in Arnhem comes to mind.
I attended quite a few of those Licks shows (stadium, arena, and theater) and even then at the time I felt they were losing a bit of pep in their step compared to previous tours I had seen them. But when the ABB shows were happening (in which I saw a few), I realized how much better they were during Licks. And then for 50 and Counting Mick Taylor really saved the day and it was still worthwhile to see several shows in my neck of the woods (and Vegas), but by Zip Code I chose to see one show - the San Diego opener - and that was enough. Never thought I'd want to see them again, but then Desert Trip happened and it was part of the package. One grand finale the following week in *Vegas with heavily discounted tickets, and that's all she wrote imo. The decline has been gradual, but seems to have accelerated these last few years. That said, glad they're still out there rolling, and for the many people who can still find joy in seeing them.
Interesting, I thought they were firing on all cylinders during the Licks tour. Now in hindsight many of those Voodoo Lounge-shows seems quite dull in comparsion, but one thing I noticed was an increased number of trainwrecks in 02/03, maybe cause they tried so many different songs.
I saw them last week in Stockholm and left the arena in a great mood, don't think there's many other bands who can entertain more for two hours straight. Still I don't want them to continue much longer... it would be a bit sad seeing Keith starting to play Start Me Up in the middle of Brown Sugar when he's 80 years old. One thing they should do already now is moving over to playing club gigs only, the Fonda release showed how they become a much better band in a small venue at this point.
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beno
It is not particular to Keith's block.
This tour has the most stable setlist since decades (I guess in the 70's they used to operate also with a more or less fixed set. Basicly its 20 songs, the exact same order, and only the 6th and 7th numbers vary. There are only a few shows of exceptions so far.
Urban Jungle (Europe, 1990): Same songs, same order, night after night.
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beno
It is not particular to Keith's block.
This tour has the most stable setlist since decades (I guess in the 70's they used to operate also with a more or less fixed set. Basicly its 20 songs, the exact same order, and only the 6th and 7th numbers vary. There are only a few shows of exceptions so far.
Urban Jungle (Europe, 1990): Same songs, same order, night after night.
Not really. A lot of shows had Factory Girl, some Terrifying or Dead Flowers. KR played three numbers. In the second half most shows were identically, that's true.
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DandelionPowderman
Where did they play Terrifying on the UJ-tour? And where did Keith do 3 songs?
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Where did they play Terrifying on the UJ-tour? And where did Keith do 3 songs?
Terrifying was played in Paris, Marseille, Madrid, Barcelona.
Keith had three songs in rotation (Happy, Before They Make Me Run, Can't Be Seen), but played two at each show (Happy, plus one of the other two).
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Olly
Damn.
Whilst I'm pleased the Stones are still putting on shows, performances like the one above almost make me wish they'd called it quits after the O2 in 2007. We're now looking at a very different band. I don't know whether it was the five year hiatus or something to do with approaching/turning 70, but the difference in the band's appearance and performance from 2007 to 2012-present amazes me.
True - there's SO MUCH MORE ENERGY and VIBRANCY in that clip above compared to we're seeing and hearing today...but the show must go on...keep on rolling.
A great version, even though I remember hearing Happy from Rio '06 and thinking ''Oh it was so much better at MSG 2003''. But now with recent versions in memory it's indeed great.
And just to remember ourselves of the kind of energy the Stones used to put out just 10 years ago, listen to this Jumping Jack Flash from 2007: [youtu.be] So different from now...
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24FPS
Voodoo Lounge Tour was pretty good. Babylon was a step down. But then from all the Babylon Tour they were sharp as knives for No Security. Since then it was hit and miss on Licks, Mick was still strong but the others were fading. Big Bang was more a Big Loud Light Show than a music concert. They came back in 2012 but Keith took years of touring just to get to an acceptable place. I love them on Blue & Lonesome, but the tourists who expect, and get, a Heritage Act, wouldn't put up with them getting down on some blues all night. It is what it is. God bless you if you want to see them fade away. Maybe I'm just mad that time will take everything.
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Midnight Toker
Dump the boring Slipping Away for Coming Down Again. Please.
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Midnight Toker
Dump the boring Slipping Away for Coming Down Again. Please.
You're in the wrong company here, Toker.