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I agree. I was in Amsterdam and most of the mix changes seemed to me to compensate for the echo in the stadium. Hoping the echo problem is not there is Paris!Quote
marcovandereijk
Earplugs can be usefull in case of heavy echoes. But I must say that what you describe
in Dusseldorf 2014 was not my experience in Amsterdam 2017. Yeah, there were moments
when Keith' guitar was louder in the mix than other moments. Mostly when he hits the
first chords of characteristic songs, like Brown Sugar, Street Fighting Man, Start me up
and Jumpin' Jack Flash. After those first lightning bolts they mixed him down and together
with Ronnie and the others, it was the rich mellée of sounds for us to enjoy.
So I think you won't have to worry.
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DandelionPowderman
They do dynamic mixing indeed, but apart from SFTD it's very cleverly done. JJF is insanely cool with this mixing approach.
They have done this since 2012, though.
And I doubt Mötorhead used dynamic mixing
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keefriff99The only mixing Mötorhead ever did was turn every knob all the way to the right, and bless 'em for it.Quote
DandelionPowderman
They do dynamic mixing indeed, but apart from SFTD it's very cleverly done. JJF is insanely cool with this mixing approach.
They have done this since 2012, though.
And I doubt Mötorhead used dynamic mixing
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robv
Having been to countless Stones shows in the last 40+ years, I must say that I am dissapointed in the change of sound since the 2014 tour. It seems there's a new sound crew that must have grown up with Motorhead. Last show I attended was Dusseldorf 2014. Volume was way over the pain barrier and worst of all is the 'dynamic mixing', meaning they crank up the guitar that is on the video screen. Essential for the Stones is the indistinguishability of the guitars. Of course this is lost by cranking up one above the rest. The current sound guy especially seems to have an interest in Keith's playing. No use in cranking up Keith's licks to a ridiculous volume. As mentioned in another thread, Keith's playing at this time is not worth cranking up at all. From some reviews I understand that the recent Dusseldorf show again was (too) loud. I'll be attending the Arnhem show this Sunday with my son, but I'll bring earplugs just to make sure. Remember, the Stones are NOT heavy metal!
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Hairball
Seems kind of bizarre to crank up the volume of the guitar when it's being shown on the big screen...am I understanding this right? I don't think I've heard of anything like that.
I suppose it's a akin to a zoom lens zooming in on a subject, but instead it's adjusting the audio level based on a particular moment of a song?
Sounds like some form of sensory trickery...do they do the same with Micks vocals, or Charlies drums?
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Spud
Yeah, I think folks are confusing it with the way they mixed the audio for the Shine a Light movie soundtrack.
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beachbreak
It can't be as loud as Deep Purple in the 70's.
I almost went into cardiac arrest!
I kid.
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keefriff99As Ian Gillan famously requested:Quote
beachbreak
It can't be as loud as Deep Purple in the 70's.
I almost went into cardiac arrest!
I kid.
"Yeah, can I have everything louder than everything else...alright..."
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wonderboy
Keith has always loved volume.
I remember reading the stories about the recording of Brown Sugar at Muscle Shoals and the guys were struck by how *loud* Keith was playing. The building was shaking.
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robv
Having been to countless Stones shows in the last 40+ years, I must say that I am dissapointed in the change of sound since the 2014 tour. It seems there's a new sound crew that must have grown up with Motorhead. Last show I attended was Dusseldorf 2014. Volume was way over the pain barrier and worst of all is the 'dynamic mixing', meaning they crank up the guitar that is on the video screen. Essential for the Stones is the indistinguishability of the guitars. Of course this is lost by cranking up one above the rest. The current sound guy especially seems to have an interest in Keith's playing. No use in cranking up Keith's licks to a ridiculous volume. As mentioned in another thread, Keith's playing at this time is not worth cranking up at all. From some reviews I understand that the recent Dusseldorf show again was (too) loud. I'll be attending the Arnhem show this Sunday with my son, but I'll bring earplugs just to make sure. Remember, the Stones are NOT heavy metal!
It's interesting to read who's on the list of the loudest bands...Quote
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keefriff99As Ian Gillan famously requested:Quote
beachbreak
It can't be as loud as Deep Purple in the 70's.
I almost went into cardiac arrest!
I kid.
"Yeah, can I have everything louder than everything else...alright..."
Yet The Who had the record for the loudest concerts