Tell Me :
Talk
Agree.
true, true. other than the gun argument which we don't need to get into. just watched trump on tv. he was very subdued & presidential. nice to see for a change. not a political comment, more a statement about me being tired of the rhetoric from all sides.
Because we've heard the "this is not the time for..." bullshit argument for years after every one of these tragedies, and it's obvious that it's just a way to deflect and shut down debate. Easier to offer mindless "thoughts and prayers" than actually do something concrete.
If @#$%& Sandy Hook didn't change anything in this country, then nothing will.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-10-02 18:33 by keefriff99.
Some people (bizarrely...) claim that Sandy Hook didn't happen, or was orchestrated by the then government in order to facilitate passing stricter gun control legislation.
Jones is a cancer on this country. He's a very sick and dangerous man who attracts borderline personality types.
It is also a statistical certainty that tighter gun laws reduce the number of deaths (by guns).
Not rocket science.
Yeah, Chicago is a great example of that logic.
Horribly sad...and scary...now at least 58 dead and 500+ injured.......
Was glued to the tv until 2:00 AM last night watching it unfold and the aftermath.
Happened just to the south of the Tropicana Hotel where my wife and I always stay which is across from MGM and New York, New York...
We're going back sometime in the next month or so for her birthday - a tradition that will continue...
Wow though...hitting close to home...................
RIP to all those who perished, and thoughts and prayers to all who are wounded - as well as all family members and friends...
_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
[mic.com]
Sandy Hook was a turning point for me personally. I said that out of respect for how BV wants his website. It's his & he puts a lot of time & resources into it.
Gun violence has killed more people domestically than all of our wars. Combined.
Lemme know when it reaches a real problem worth facing.
Come on, Lem. I'm loathe to comment on a site like IORR, but living in Japan, an incident like this is unthinkable. Ammonium nitrate and boxcutters, like automobiles, are tolerated despite the potential dangers because of the utility they provide for society. Automatic (or semi-automatic) weapons seem to offer none.
The incidents that you mentioned took research, specialized knowledge, and long periods of planning and success depended on coordination, precise execution and luck. The odds of identifying potential perpetrators and disrupting the incident are much higher. Today's incident would take no such planning - just an old guy, possibly suffering from mental problems, or affected by a drug he took this morning. It's just too easy, and the chances of preventing it are close to zero.
You mean better mental health care?
The problem is, often there's no way to no if one is a 'lunatic' until they do something like this (which appears to be the case with this latest 'nut').
Yes, this is sadly very true (Chapman, etc.) .
My heart goes out to all affected by this senseless tragedy.
"No Anchovies, Please"
Eddie
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2017-10-02 22:20 by EddieByword.
"Why does this keep happening?"
says the only country on the planet where this keeps happening.
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Re: OT: Las Vegas concert shooting
Posted by:
wonderboy
()
Date: October 2, 2017 17:12
Quote
MileHighQuote
matxil
I'm so sorry for all of this. Another act of terrorism. I hope it will stop one day. Don't know when. I'm not in a very positive mood today, but I still believe love, sympathy and empathy are the only way to move forward.
It's not terrorism and it's not "Trump's fault." Although this is all still early, I read that the shooter had a lawsuit with a casino a few years ago. So for example if he went nuts because he lost a lawsuit then it's not terrorism. It's mass murder.
If we play with the meanings of words to suit own own political agendas that helps no one.
Agree.
Re: OT: Las Vegas concert shooting
Posted by:
keefriff99
()
Date: October 2, 2017 17:18
Terrorism is the infliction of violence for political aims.
If this guy was just some angry nutjob who was disgruntled over his lawsuit, that doesn't qualify. If he was a white supremacist with a manifesto, THEN it would be terrorism.
If this guy was just some angry nutjob who was disgruntled over his lawsuit, that doesn't qualify. If he was a white supremacist with a manifesto, THEN it would be terrorism.
Re: OT: Las Vegas concert shooting
Posted by:
MisterDDDD
()
Date: October 2, 2017 17:24
do·mes·tic ter·ror·ism
noun-NORTH AMERICAN
the committing of terrorist acts in the perpetrator's own country against their fellow citizens.
noun-NORTH AMERICAN
the committing of terrorist acts in the perpetrator's own country against their fellow citizens.
Re: OT: Las Vegas concert shooting
Posted by:
DaveG
()
Date: October 2, 2017 18:10
At this point, there has been no indication that the shooter was connected to any political ideology. He seems to be a loner, unhappy with life. But, it is still very early in the investigation. It'll take some time to determine what motivated him. It is way to easy to post ignorant opinions on a blog site without knowing the facts. From afar we all see things through our own lens. But the fact is that we only know what the news outlets report. To turn this into a political rant is just foolish and disrespectful to the victims.
Re: OT: Las Vegas concert shooting
Posted by:
crholmstrom
()
Date: October 2, 2017 18:12
Quote
DaveG
At this point, there has been no indication that the shooter was connected to any political ideology. He seems to be a loner, unhappy with life. But, it is still very early in the investigation. It'll take some time to determine what motivated him. It is way to easy to post ignorant opinions on a blog site without knowing the facts. From afar we all see things through our own lens. But the fact is that we only know what the news outlets report. To turn this into a political rant is just foolish and disrespectful to the victims.
true, true. other than the gun argument which we don't need to get into. just watched trump on tv. he was very subdued & presidential. nice to see for a change. not a political comment, more a statement about me being tired of the rhetoric from all sides.
Re: OT: Las Vegas concert shooting
Posted by:
keefriff99
()
Date: October 2, 2017 18:20
Do you mean HERE on IORR, or as a country?Quote
crholmstromQuote
DaveG
At this point, there has been no indication that the shooter was connected to any political ideology. He seems to be a loner, unhappy with life. But, it is still very early in the investigation. It'll take some time to determine what motivated him. It is way to easy to post ignorant opinions on a blog site without knowing the facts. From afar we all see things through our own lens. But the fact is that we only know what the news outlets report. To turn this into a political rant is just foolish and disrespectful to the victims.
true, true. other than the gun argument which we don't need to get into. just watched trump on tv. he was very subdued & presidential. nice to see for a change. not a political comment, more a statement about me being tired of the rhetoric from all sides.
Because we've heard the "this is not the time for..." bullshit argument for years after every one of these tragedies, and it's obvious that it's just a way to deflect and shut down debate. Easier to offer mindless "thoughts and prayers" than actually do something concrete.
If @#$%& Sandy Hook didn't change anything in this country, then nothing will.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-10-02 18:33 by keefriff99.
Re: OT: Las Vegas concert shooting
Posted by:
MileHigh
()
Date: October 2, 2017 18:36
There is simply no end to the gun argument. A crazy man walks into a classroom and guns everyone down and people are helpless and die and scatter. A crazy man walks into a classroom and starts shooting and a sane person in the classroom guns him down and saves 20 lives. Is there a "right solution" to this problem here? Does making guns illegal stop people from getting them? I don't have any answers on this issue, just questions.
It's a very sad day.
In a sample of a million people, there is a statistical certainty that there will be some people that will be irrational or evil or sometimes both.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-10-02 18:38 by MileHigh.
It's a very sad day.
In a sample of a million people, there is a statistical certainty that there will be some people that will be irrational or evil or sometimes both.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-10-02 18:38 by MileHigh.
Re: OT: Las Vegas concert shooting
Posted by:
Irix
()
Date: October 2, 2017 19:13
From The Rolling Stones:
"The Rolling Stones send their deepest condolences to all those affected by the terrible shooting at Route 91 in Vegas."
[Twitter.com] , [www.Facebook.com]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-10-02 19:15 by Irix.
"The Rolling Stones send their deepest condolences to all those affected by the terrible shooting at Route 91 in Vegas."
[Twitter.com] , [www.Facebook.com]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-10-02 19:15 by Irix.
Re: OT: Las Vegas concert shooting
Posted by:
xke38
()
Date: October 2, 2017 19:18
Quote
keefriff99
If @#$%& Sandy Hook didn't change anything in this country, then nothing will.
Some people (bizarrely...) claim that Sandy Hook didn't happen, or was orchestrated by the then government in order to facilitate passing stricter gun control legislation.
Re: OT: Las Vegas concert shooting
Posted by:
buttons67
()
Date: October 2, 2017 19:36
ive always wondered how many people have to be shot dead in america before the penny drops and they realize guns are nasty dangerous things.
seems its going to be a high number then.
people as usual will complain about the incident but do absolutely nothing to pressurise politicians to change things.
so it will happen again, and again and again.
i just cant comprehend such stupidity.
seems its going to be a high number then.
people as usual will complain about the incident but do absolutely nothing to pressurise politicians to change things.
so it will happen again, and again and again.
i just cant comprehend such stupidity.
Re: OT: Las Vegas concert shooting
Posted by:
keefriff99
()
Date: October 2, 2017 19:44
These sick bastards are mostly followers of whackjob internet conspiracy theorist Alex Jones. His followers are STILL, to this day, harassing the parents who lost kids that horrible day.Quote
xke38Quote
keefriff99
If @#$%& Sandy Hook didn't change anything in this country, then nothing will.
Some people (bizarrely...) claim that Sandy Hook didn't happen, or was orchestrated by the then government in order to facilitate passing stricter gun control legislation.
Jones is a cancer on this country. He's a very sick and dangerous man who attracts borderline personality types.
Re: OT: Las Vegas concert shooting
Posted by:
marianna
()
Date: October 2, 2017 19:46
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-10-02 19:48 by marianna.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-10-02 19:48 by marianna.
Re: OT: Las Vegas concert shooting
Posted by:
jlowe
()
Date: October 2, 2017 19:52
Quote
MileHigh
There is simply no end to the gun argument. A crazy man walks into a classroom and guns everyone down and people are helpless and die and scatter. A crazy man walks into a classroom and starts shooting and a sane person in the classroom guns him down and saves 20 lives. Is there a "right solution" to this problem here? Does making guns illegal stop people from getting them? I don't have any answers on this issue, just questions.
It's a very sad day.
In a sample of a million people, there is a statistical certainty that there will be some people that will be irrational or evil or sometimes both.
It is also a statistical certainty that tighter gun laws reduce the number of deaths (by guns).
Not rocket science.
Re: OT: Las Vegas concert shooting
Posted by:
DartfordRenegade
()
Date: October 2, 2017 19:58
As someone from the UK I find it very hard to understand how easy it is for members of the public to buy and own weapons in the USA.
I'm a volunteer at a local Cadet unit and one of my roles is to be the armoury controller responsible for 9 parade purpose only weapons.
All of these rifles have been decommissioned and are incapable of firing ammunition and are only used for drill but we are not even allowed to parade with them in public.
However in order to be able to hold these weapons I had to attend and pass a uniformed instructors course at a military base, gain security clearance from the Ministry of Defence and then attend the armoury controllers course at an Army camp.
I have to carry out twice weekly checks on the armoury and weapons, every time the weapons are issued for training another form has to be completed and the drill instructor has to sign for the weapons and I have to sign them back in and there are quarterly checks by the district staff and spot checks by area staff and the local police.
There are several layers of security before anyone can access the armoury and weapons. The armoury can only be opened if both myself and the CO are on the base as neither of us are allowed a full set of keys to open the armoury.
If we held live firing weapons and ammunition then we would have to even more additional layers of security and checks.
So it baffles me that in the USA any member of the public can just go in a store and buy a gun and ammunition.
I'm a volunteer at a local Cadet unit and one of my roles is to be the armoury controller responsible for 9 parade purpose only weapons.
All of these rifles have been decommissioned and are incapable of firing ammunition and are only used for drill but we are not even allowed to parade with them in public.
However in order to be able to hold these weapons I had to attend and pass a uniformed instructors course at a military base, gain security clearance from the Ministry of Defence and then attend the armoury controllers course at an Army camp.
I have to carry out twice weekly checks on the armoury and weapons, every time the weapons are issued for training another form has to be completed and the drill instructor has to sign for the weapons and I have to sign them back in and there are quarterly checks by the district staff and spot checks by area staff and the local police.
There are several layers of security before anyone can access the armoury and weapons. The armoury can only be opened if both myself and the CO are on the base as neither of us are allowed a full set of keys to open the armoury.
If we held live firing weapons and ammunition then we would have to even more additional layers of security and checks.
So it baffles me that in the USA any member of the public can just go in a store and buy a gun and ammunition.
Re: OT: Las Vegas concert shooting
Posted by:
makemeburnthecandle
()
Date: October 2, 2017 19:58
Quote
jloweQuote
MileHigh
There is simply no end to the gun argument. A crazy man walks into a classroom and guns everyone down and people are helpless and die and scatter. A crazy man walks into a classroom and starts shooting and a sane person in the classroom guns him down and saves 20 lives. Is there a "right solution" to this problem here? Does making guns illegal stop people from getting them? I don't have any answers on this issue, just questions.
It's a very sad day.
In a sample of a million people, there is a statistical certainty that there will be some people that will be irrational or evil or sometimes both.
It is also a statistical certainty that tighter gun laws reduce the number of deaths (by guns).
Not rocket science.
Yeah, Chicago is a great example of that logic.
Re: OT: Las Vegas concert shooting
Posted by:
Elmo Lewis
()
Date: October 2, 2017 20:00
As a political moderate and hunter, I have always defended my right to own a gun.
I don't mind waiting periods. background checks, etc. to keep guns out of the hands of lunatics.
That said, I can't see why anyone needs an assault rifle.
I don't mind waiting periods. background checks, etc. to keep guns out of the hands of lunatics.
That said, I can't see why anyone needs an assault rifle.
Re: OT: Las Vegas concert shooting
Posted by:
lem motlow
()
Date: October 2, 2017 20:07
Do you guys in Europe argue over the right to own white panel trucks? Just wondering.
The gun he used was a full-automatic and absolutely illegal in all 50 of the United States.
The gun he used was a full-automatic and absolutely illegal in all 50 of the United States.
Re: OT: Las Vegas concert shooting
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: October 2, 2017 20:14
Quote
crholmstrom
the casulaty count just went up to 50 dead, 200 injured.
Horribly sad...and scary...now at least 58 dead and 500+ injured.......
Was glued to the tv until 2:00 AM last night watching it unfold and the aftermath.
Happened just to the south of the Tropicana Hotel where my wife and I always stay which is across from MGM and New York, New York...
We're going back sometime in the next month or so for her birthday - a tradition that will continue...
Wow though...hitting close to home...................
RIP to all those who perished, and thoughts and prayers to all who are wounded - as well as all family members and friends...
_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Re: OT: Las Vegas concert shooting
Posted by:
keefriff99
()
Date: October 2, 2017 20:17
Guns flood into the city from surrounding shit-kicker states with lax gun laws.Quote
makemeburnthecandleQuote
jloweQuote
MileHigh
There is simply no end to the gun argument. A crazy man walks into a classroom and guns everyone down and people are helpless and die and scatter. A crazy man walks into a classroom and starts shooting and a sane person in the classroom guns him down and saves 20 lives. Is there a "right solution" to this problem here? Does making guns illegal stop people from getting them? I don't have any answers on this issue, just questions.
It's a very sad day.
In a sample of a million people, there is a statistical certainty that there will be some people that will be irrational or evil or sometimes both.
It is also a statistical certainty that tighter gun laws reduce the number of deaths (by guns).
Not rocket science.
Yeah, Chicago is a great example of that logic.
[mic.com]
Re: OT: Las Vegas concert shooting
Posted by:
crholmstrom
()
Date: October 2, 2017 20:33
Quote
keefriff99Do you mean HERE on IORR, or as a country?Quote
crholmstromQuote
DaveG
At this point, there has been no indication that the shooter was connected to any political ideology. He seems to be a loner, unhappy with life. But, it is still very early in the investigation. It'll take some time to determine what motivated him. It is way to easy to post ignorant opinions on a blog site without knowing the facts. From afar we all see things through our own lens. But the fact is that we only know what the news outlets report. To turn this into a political rant is just foolish and disrespectful to the victims.
true, true. other than the gun argument which we don't need to get into. just watched trump on tv. he was very subdued & presidential. nice to see for a change. not a political comment, more a statement about me being tired of the rhetoric from all sides.
Because we've heard the "this is not the time for..." bullshit argument for years after every one of these tragedies, and it's obvious that it's just a way to deflect and shut down debate. Easier to offer mindless "thoughts and prayers" than actually do something concrete.
If @#$%& Sandy Hook didn't change anything in this country, then nothing will.
Sandy Hook was a turning point for me personally. I said that out of respect for how BV wants his website. It's his & he puts a lot of time & resources into it.
Re: OT: Las Vegas concert shooting
Posted by:
lem motlow
()
Date: October 2, 2017 20:46
The largest domestic terrorist attack in the United States was done with a truck filled with ammonium nitrate -168 dead and over 600 wounded.this chemical can be made using household items.
The largest attack in the states done by foreigners killed 3000 people and injured untold more.this was done using boxcutters.
For some reason chemicals and box cutters don't get people emotional though.i guess.it just feels safer to blame a gun than to face real problems.
The largest attack in the states done by foreigners killed 3000 people and injured untold more.this was done using boxcutters.
For some reason chemicals and box cutters don't get people emotional though.i guess.it just feels safer to blame a gun than to face real problems.
Re: OT: Las Vegas concert shooting
Posted by:
MisterDDDD
()
Date: October 2, 2017 20:53
Quote
lem motlow
i guess.it just feels safer to blame a gun than to face real problems.
Gun violence has killed more people domestically than all of our wars. Combined.
Lemme know when it reaches a real problem worth facing.
Re: OT: Las Vegas concert shooting
Posted by:
drbryant
()
Date: October 2, 2017 20:55
Quote
lem motlow
The largest domestic terrorist attack in the United States was done with a truck filled with ammonium nitrate -168 dead and over 600 wounded.this chemical can be made using household items.
The largest attack in the states done by foreigners killed 3000 people and injured untold more.this was done using boxcutters.
For some reason chemicals and box cutters don't get people emotional though.i guess.it just feels safer to blame a gun than to face real problems.
Come on, Lem. I'm loathe to comment on a site like IORR, but living in Japan, an incident like this is unthinkable. Ammonium nitrate and boxcutters, like automobiles, are tolerated despite the potential dangers because of the utility they provide for society. Automatic (or semi-automatic) weapons seem to offer none.
The incidents that you mentioned took research, specialized knowledge, and long periods of planning and success depended on coordination, precise execution and luck. The odds of identifying potential perpetrators and disrupting the incident are much higher. Today's incident would take no such planning - just an old guy, possibly suffering from mental problems, or affected by a drug he took this morning. It's just too easy, and the chances of preventing it are close to zero.
Re: OT: Las Vegas concert shooting
Posted by:
lem motlow
()
Date: October 2, 2017 21:09
So if he just drove his car 100 miles an hour into the crowd as they were leaving that would make it better? Are the people Isis rammed with trucks less dead?
Gun violence has killed more people than all of our wars? but traffic accidents are a far greater number,I say we ban those damn cars,and fatty foods.cant forget that heart disease.face it, vehicles, chemical ieds and sharp objects don't fit the narrative so You talk circles to avoid the truth.
Gun violence has killed more people than all of our wars? but traffic accidents are a far greater number,I say we ban those damn cars,and fatty foods.cant forget that heart disease.face it, vehicles, chemical ieds and sharp objects don't fit the narrative so You talk circles to avoid the truth.
Re: OT: Las Vegas concert shooting
Posted by:
Koen
()
Date: October 2, 2017 21:31
Quote
lem motlow
it just feels safer to blame a gun than to face real problems.
You mean better mental health care?
Re: OT: Las Vegas concert shooting
Posted by:
LeonidP
()
Date: October 2, 2017 21:50
Quote
Elmo Lewis
As a political moderate and hunter, I have always defended my right to own a gun.
I don't mind waiting periods. background checks, etc. to keep guns out of the hands of lunatics...
The problem is, often there's no way to no if one is a 'lunatic' until they do something like this (which appears to be the case with this latest 'nut').
Re: OT: Las Vegas concert shooting
Posted by:
Elmo Lewis
()
Date: October 2, 2017 21:55
Quote
LeonidPQuote
Elmo Lewis
As a political moderate and hunter, I have always defended my right to own a gun.
I don't mind waiting periods. background checks, etc. to keep guns out of the hands of lunatics...
The problem is, often there's no way to no if one is a 'lunatic' until they do something like this (which appears to be the case with this latest 'nut').
Yes, this is sadly very true (Chapman, etc.) .
My heart goes out to all affected by this senseless tragedy.
"No Anchovies, Please"
Re: OT: Las Vegas concert shooting
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: October 2, 2017 21:55
Food for thought from a personal perspective on guns in which I have mixed feelings:
My father was a murder victim of gun violence back in '75 when I was 12 years old. He was an avid gun collector and taught me to shoot guns up in the hills of the country when I was a kid.
I still own some of those guns, and on occasion take them up to the same location to do some target shooting. Banning guns all together is really not the answer to solve all the problems, but heavy regulations and background checks are. Many guns are owned illegally anyways by gang members, etc, so to take them away from law abiding citizens would be a mistake imo. There will always be nutcases who slip through the cracks out to do harm, and if it's not by using a gun then they would find a way by some other means. Again, mixed feelings about guns...yes they can do horrible things, but it's because of some of the f*cked up people behind them that are the problem.
___________________________________________
Yet here we have what is being called the"deadliest mass shooting in modern US history"... a horrible sad day no matter how you look at it.
_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
My father was a murder victim of gun violence back in '75 when I was 12 years old. He was an avid gun collector and taught me to shoot guns up in the hills of the country when I was a kid.
I still own some of those guns, and on occasion take them up to the same location to do some target shooting. Banning guns all together is really not the answer to solve all the problems, but heavy regulations and background checks are. Many guns are owned illegally anyways by gang members, etc, so to take them away from law abiding citizens would be a mistake imo. There will always be nutcases who slip through the cracks out to do harm, and if it's not by using a gun then they would find a way by some other means. Again, mixed feelings about guns...yes they can do horrible things, but it's because of some of the f*cked up people behind them that are the problem.
___________________________________________
Yet here we have what is being called the"deadliest mass shooting in modern US history"... a horrible sad day no matter how you look at it.
_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Re: OT: Las Vegas concert shooting
Posted by:
EddieByword
()
Date: October 2, 2017 22:15
Quote
lem motlow
The largest domestic terrorist attack in the United States was done with a truck filled with ammonium nitrate - 168 dead and over 600 wounded.this chemical can be made using household items.
Respnse: I don't think any sound minded person skirted over this as if it was nothing, the point here is though, bomb attacks are really rare in the US - gun attacks are not.
Acid attacks are becoming regular in London - the Government are already looking at tightening the rules regarding the acquirement of such chemicals.
lem motlow.. The largest attack in the states done by foreigners killed 3000 people and injured untold more.this was done using boxcutters.
Response: Hardly, the boxcutters got them in the cockpit and facilitated the attack but of course they used planes - there's no serious suggestion that a handful of blokes went up and killed 3000 using boxcutters - would have taken weeks..........
Plus in the UK, you're not allowed to buy a knife (or box cutter or Stanley knife as they are known here) until you're 18 - not that that would have affected the twin towers situation - and if you're caught in possesion of a knife on the streets without a legitimate reason for carrying you can go to jail.
Adults convicted of an offence involving a knife for a second time will face minimum sentences of at least six months, while those aged 16 to 18 will get at least four months detention or a training order.
The move will see an additional 1,300 people a year jailed for possession of a knife, with a maximum sentence of up to four years.
lem motlow....... For some reason chemicals and box cutters don't get people emotional though.i guess.it just feels safer to blame a gun than to face real problems.
Gun violence has killed more people than all of our wars? but traffic accidents are a far greater number,I say we ban those damn cars,and fatty foods.cant forget that heart disease.face it, vehicles, chemical ieds and sharp objects don't fit the narrative so You talk circles to avoid the truth.
Response: Here you just defeat your own agument with your own words - Traffic accidents are just that - accidents - Death by fatty foods are suicide (if you know better than to eat such shit) or death by misadventure if you don't - I guess there's a case for manslaughter or murder if you feed your kid FatDonald's too often and they die from complications from that............gun attacks in the US are regular as clockwork and only murderous, not accidents.
But guns - even ownership for hunting is a spurious reason, I mean, what self respecting man seriously thinks that going in the woods and shooting some helpless Deer or rabbit or whatever is a brave manly thing to do that will somehow enhance their stature as a human being......this is seriously retarded thinking that only belongs in the annals of a sorry history of 'Trophy hunting' - a bit like serial killing mentality really - take your Elk's head home and Jerk off - wow.......
there's no legitimate reason for owning a gun except to protect yourself from other morons that own them.
If nobody had a gun, nobody else would need one.
Eddie
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2017-10-02 22:20 by EddieByword.
Re: OT: Las Vegas concert shooting
Posted by:
MisterDDDD
()
Date: October 2, 2017 22:38
"Why does this keep happening?"
says the only country on the planet where this keeps happening.
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