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Re: 2018 Tour of UK
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: December 10, 2017 08:49

Maybe McCartney is a still a real musician, not just a clown...

Re: 2018 Tour of UK
Posted by: CaptainCorella ()
Date: December 10, 2017 11:10

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Deathgod


I've been asked not to name names.

But, very close associate to Stones promoter told a mutual friend whom they work alongside re venues and major events that the Stones are a lock for March. This happened at the McCartney show.
The person who passed on the info is a very connected source and the person who was told is an internationally connected person involved in venues and major events. The person told is married to a very good friend of mine. We both have/had worked in the music industry for decades.
I would be 100% confident on the information.
Whether it pans out is yet to be seen


So that's three levels of displacement? Sorry, but much as I hope you are right and I am wrong, I have learnt to be rather sceptical about fourth (3 + you) read on an internet forum.

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Re: 2018 Tour of UK
Posted by: slewan ()
Date: December 10, 2017 13:19

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tommycharles
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35love
I sometimes think Sir Paul and Sir Mick have a competitive bet running;
You retire first, No YOU retire first, I’ll quit when you quit,
that bugger I can’t let him outlast me... winking smiley

Mick is at a substantial disadvantage in that particular race, as
- Paul’s stage act involves no running about
- Paul’s entire band is 20-25 years younger than he is

None of which is meant at a slight to Paul, who still puts on terrific shows. But Mick has a more difficult task these days.

Paul's biggest advantage is that he can fire any member of his band any time he wants to and still continue touring, i.e. nobody will notice if he changes his band. Mick just can't do this (remember that all his attempts to start a solo career failed)



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Re: 2018 Tour of UK
Posted by: Deathgod ()
Date: December 10, 2017 13:37

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CaptainCorella
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Deathgod


I've been asked not to name names.

But, very close associate to Stones promoter told a mutual friend whom they work alongside re venues and major events that the Stones are a lock for March. This happened at the McCartney show.
The person who passed on the info is a very connected source and the person who was told is an internationally connected person involved in venues and major events. The person told is married to a very good friend of mine. We both have/had worked in the music industry for decades.
I would be 100% confident on the information.
Whether it pans out is yet to be seen


So that's three levels of displacement? Sorry, but much as I hope you are right and I am wrong, I have learnt to be rather sceptical about fourth (3 + you) read on an internet forum.
Lolz whatever
I was told this by my mate who was there and heard what was said to his wife
Next time I will ask him to record it and get a 'certificate of authenticity' so I have 'proof' when I wish to pass on the info to those who may be interested

Re: 2018 Tour of UK
Posted by: runrudolph ()
Date: December 10, 2017 13:46

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Deathgod
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CaptainCorella
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Deathgod


I've been asked not to name names.

But, very close associate to Stones promoter told a mutual friend whom they work alongside re venues and major events that the Stones are a lock for March. This happened at the McCartney show.
The person who passed on the info is a very connected source and the person who was told is an internationally connected person involved in venues and major events. The person told is married to a very good friend of mine. We both have/had worked in the music industry for decades.
I would be 100% confident on the information.
Whether it pans out is yet to be seen

I think this may not happen. Maybe in 2019, but there is only one tour in 2018, and thats the 2018 UK Tour. The Stones will be far too busy to finish up the New album in the first 4 months of 2018, do promotion etc. Then there are the rehearsals for the UK tour, so i dont think tours in other continents will happen in 2018.
Jeroen


So that's three levels of displacement? Sorry, but much as I hope you are right and I am wrong, I have learnt to be rather sceptical about fourth (3 + you) read on an internet forum.
Lolz whatever
I was told this by my mate who was there and heard what was said to his wife
Next time I will ask him to record it and get a 'certificate of authenticity' so I have 'proof' when I wish to pass on the info to those who may be interested

Re: 2018 Tour of UK
Posted by: runrudolph ()
Date: December 10, 2017 13:47

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corriecas
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Deathgod
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CaptainCorella
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Deathgod


I've been asked not to name names.

But, very close associate to Stones promoter told a mutual friend whom they work alongside re venues and major events that the Stones are a lock for March. This happened at the McCartney show.
The person who passed on the info is a very connected source and the person who was told is an internationally connected person involved in venues and major events. The person told is married to a very good friend of mine. We both have/had worked in the music industry for decades.
I would be 100% confident on the information.
Whether it pans out is yet to be seen

I think this may not happen. Maybe in 2019, but there is only one tour in 2018, and thats the 2018 UK Tour. The Stones will be far too busy to finish up the New album in the first 4 months of 2018, do promotion etc. Then there are the rehearsals for the UK tour, so i dont think tours in other continents will happen in 2018.
Jeroen


So that's three levels of displacement? Sorry, but much as I hope you are right and I am wrong, I have learnt to be rather sceptical about fourth (3 + you) read on an internet forum.
Lolz whatever
I was told this by my mate who was there and heard what was said to his wife
Next time I will ask him to record it and get a 'certificate of authenticity' so I have 'proof' when I wish to pass on the info to those who may be interested

I think this may not happen. Maybe in 2019, but there is only one tour in 2018, and thats the 2018 UK Tour. The Stones will be far too busy to finish up the New album in the first 4 months of 2018, do promotion etc. Then there are the rehearsals for the UK tour, so i dont think tours in other continents will happen in 2018.
Jeroen

Re: 2018 Tour of UK
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: December 10, 2017 20:57

The speculation here is almost as crazy as the new album thread!
Somewhere deep within the quagmire of various sources and opinions, there lies some form of truth.
Australia 2018 before the UK tour? Questionable, but not totally unrealistic imo.thumbs up

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Re: 2018 Tour of UK
Posted by: runrudolph ()
Date: December 10, 2017 21:14

Maybe its time for Bjornulf to say something about it.
jeroen

Re: 2018 Tour of UK
Posted by: john lomax ()
Date: December 12, 2017 10:39

Well, it looks like Hyde Park won't happen. The Cure are headlining on 7 July.

Re: 2018 Tour of UK
Date: December 12, 2017 11:21

The only thing we know for sure is that they have picked some venues in England and Scotland.

Re: 2018 Tour of UK
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: December 12, 2017 12:02

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DandelionPowderman
The only thing we know for sure is that they have picked some venues in England and Scotland.

They probably pre-booked some stadiums. But that was also the case e.g. with Oslo and maybe Vienna or Dublin last spring - and it never happened. Like many "phantom tours" before.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-12-12 12:14 by Monsoon Ragoon.

Re: 2018 Tour of UK
Date: December 12, 2017 12:48

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Monsoon Ragoon
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DandelionPowderman
The only thing we know for sure is that they have picked some venues in England and Scotland.

They probably pre-booked some stadiums. But that was also the case e.g. with Oslo and maybe Vienna or Dublin last spring - and it never happened. Like many "phantom tours" before.

Cancer was a pretty legitimate reason for those cancellations, though. Those dates had nothing to do with «phantoms», Oslo was booked. Ronnie had cancer and had to udnergo treatment. Anything can happen, and sometimes it does. No one is to blame.

Re: 2018 Tour of UK
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: December 12, 2017 12:54

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DandelionPowderman
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Monsoon Ragoon
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DandelionPowderman
The only thing we know for sure is that they have picked some venues in England and Scotland.

They probably pre-booked some stadiums. But that was also the case e.g. with Oslo and maybe Vienna or Dublin last spring - and it never happened. Like many "phantom tours" before.

Cancer was a pretty legitimate reason for those cancellations, though. Those dates had nothing to do with «phantoms», Oslo was booked. Ronnie had cancer and had to udnergo treatment. Anything can happen, and sometimes it does. No one is to blame.

There were many similar cases in the past which had nothing to do with cancer. The Rolling Stones mess around with the promotors since many many years.



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Re: 2018 Tour of UK
Date: December 12, 2017 12:59

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Monsoon Ragoon
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DandelionPowderman
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Monsoon Ragoon
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DandelionPowderman
The only thing we know for sure is that they have picked some venues in England and Scotland.

They probably pre-booked some stadiums. But that was also the case e.g. with Oslo and maybe Vienna or Dublin last spring - and it never happened. Like many "phantom tours" before.

Cancer was a pretty legitimate reason for those cancellations, though. Those dates had nothing to do with «phantoms», Oslo was booked. Ronnie had cancer and had to udnergo treatment. Anything can happen, and sometimes it does. No one is to blame.

There were many similar cases in the past which had nothing to do with cancer.

Where they cancelled a tour, and came back and did it? The Aussie-tour, obviously (after L'Wren's passing).

I don't think there are many similar cases with the latter-day Stones, are there? They have cancelled South America in 1975 (didn't do the tour at all) and Ireland in 1982? Probably some more in the 70s, but in between 1989-2017?

Re: 2018 Tour of UK
Posted by: Stonesfan2146 ()
Date: December 12, 2017 13:10

There are. There was a pretty big Europe arena tour planned for fall 2013 but never happened.
The South America tour was originally planned for Winter 2014 but got delayed because of the Far East tour that had to be moved.

Re: 2018 Tour of UK
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: December 12, 2017 13:19

Europe I 1970, Asia/Americas 1996, Europe 2013, South America 2015 to name but a few tour legs that never happened and NOT due to illness.

Re: 2018 Tour of UK
Date: December 12, 2017 13:32

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Monsoon Ragoon
Europe I 1970, Asia/Americas 1996, Europe 2013, South America 2015 to name but a few tour legs that never happened and NOT due to illness.

Did they plan to do a full asian and south american tour only a year after they played those continents? Do you know that a full euro-tour was booked in 2013? A postponement of the south american tour happened for the same reason we discussed earlier.

You are talking about rumours, right, not pre-booked or booked tours?

That's a different thing.



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Re: 2018 Tour of UK
Date: December 12, 2017 13:34

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Stonesfan2146
There are. There was a pretty big Europe arena tour planned for fall 2013 but never happened.
The South America tour was originally planned for Winter 2014 but got delayed because of the Far East tour that had to be moved.

But these things were rearranged because of one incident (L'Wren). Monsoon said that they had cancelled tours for other reasons in latter days.

Was the euro-tour really booked for fall 2013?

Re: 2018 Tour of UK
Posted by: bye bye johnny ()
Date: December 12, 2017 14:02

2013 Fall Tour of Europe seemed to be more than just rumors.

Keith said as much in an interview with XFM that summer, and prior to Hyde Park 2 Mick tweeted "It's been a fantastic tour so far & great to finish this leg in our hometown!"

Re: 2018 Tour of UK
Posted by: Stonesfan2146 ()
Date: December 12, 2017 14:07

Yes, and it was supposed to be even bigger than the US tour as I understand.

Re: 2018 Tour of UK
Posted by: erikjjf ()
Date: December 12, 2017 14:14

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DandelionPowderman
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Monsoon Ragoon
Europe I 1970, Asia/Americas 1996, Europe 2013, South America 2015 to name but a few tour legs that never happened and NOT due to illness.

Did they plan to do a full asian and south american tour only a year after they played those continents? Do you know that a full euro-tour was booked in 2013? A postponement of the south american tour happened for the same reason we discussed earlier.

You are talking about rumours, right, not pre-booked or booked tours?

That's a different thing.


[iorr.org]

Re: 2018 Tour of UK
Date: December 12, 2017 14:15

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bye bye johnny
2013 Fall Tour of Europe seemed to be more than just rumors.

Keith said as much in an interview with XFM that summer, and prior to Hyde Park 2 Mick tweeted "It's been a fantastic tour so far & great to finish this leg in our hometown!"

I remember that. Then again, these things take some planning, and they ended up starting the tour in June next year instead.

Hardly the same as cancelling a big pre-booked or booked tour without a good reason, as Monsoon said they have done in recent years.

Re: 2018 Tour of UK
Date: December 12, 2017 14:17

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erikjjf
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DandelionPowderman
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Monsoon Ragoon
Europe I 1970, Asia/Americas 1996, Europe 2013, South America 2015 to name but a few tour legs that never happened and NOT due to illness.

Did they plan to do a full asian and south american tour only a year after they played those continents? Do you know that a full euro-tour was booked in 2013? A postponement of the south american tour happened for the same reason we discussed earlier.

You are talking about rumours, right, not pre-booked or booked tours?

That's a different thing.


[iorr.org]

As I thought. No cancellations. Thanks, Erik.

And even Wild Horses, the single, was eventually released smiling smiley



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Re: 2018 Tour of UK
Posted by: mtaylor ()
Date: December 12, 2017 18:26

Cure got the slot between Eric and Waters, so no Stones in Hyde Park BST

Re: 2018 Tour of UK
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Date: December 12, 2017 18:38

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Re: 2018 Tour of UK
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: December 12, 2017 18:54

Sounds like "normal" tickets for up to £600, sounds like 16 warhorses out of 19/20 songs. Bizarre ending for the greatest band ever.



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Re: 2018 Tour of UK
Posted by: StonedInTokyo ()
Date: December 13, 2017 15:14

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Monsoon Ragoon
Sounds like "normal" tickets for up to £600, sounds like 16 warhorses out of 19/20 songs. Bizarre ending for the greatest band ever.

Well, what did you expect, a free concert at Altamont?

Re: 2018 Tour of UK
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: December 13, 2017 18:09

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Monsoon Ragoon
Quote
DandelionPowderman
The only thing we know for sure is that they have picked some venues in England and Scotland.

They probably pre-booked some stadiums. But that was also the case e.g. with Oslo and maybe Vienna or Dublin last spring - and it never happened. Like many "phantom tours" before.

Pre-booked? So they have't booked them yet? Or do you mean they booked them?

Re: 2018 Tour of UK
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: December 13, 2017 18:13

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DandelionPowderman
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Monsoon Ragoon
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DandelionPowderman
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Monsoon Ragoon
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DandelionPowderman
The only thing we know for sure is that they have picked some venues in England and Scotland.

They probably pre-booked some stadiums. But that was also the case e.g. with Oslo and maybe Vienna or Dublin last spring - and it never happened. Like many "phantom tours" before.

Cancer was a pretty legitimate reason for those cancellations, though. Those dates had nothing to do with «phantoms», Oslo was booked. Ronnie had cancer and had to udnergo treatment. Anything can happen, and sometimes it does. No one is to blame.

There were many similar cases in the past which had nothing to do with cancer.

Where they cancelled a tour, and came back and did it? The Aussie-tour, obviously (after L'Wren's passing).

I don't think there are many similar cases with the latter-day Stones, are there? They have cancelled South America in 1975 (didn't do the tour at all) and Ireland in 1982? Probably some more in the 70s, but in between 1989-2017?

They played Ireland in 1982. Second to last date of the tour.

Re: 2018 Tour of UK
Date: December 13, 2017 18:26

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GasLightStreet
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DandelionPowderman
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Monsoon Ragoon
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DandelionPowderman
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Monsoon Ragoon
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DandelionPowderman
The only thing we know for sure is that they have picked some venues in England and Scotland.

They probably pre-booked some stadiums. But that was also the case e.g. with Oslo and maybe Vienna or Dublin last spring - and it never happened. Like many "phantom tours" before.

Cancer was a pretty legitimate reason for those cancellations, though. Those dates had nothing to do with «phantoms», Oslo was booked. Ronnie had cancer and had to udnergo treatment. Anything can happen, and sometimes it does. No one is to blame.

There were many similar cases in the past which had nothing to do with cancer.

Where they cancelled a tour, and came back and did it? The Aussie-tour, obviously (after L'Wren's passing).

I don't think there are many similar cases with the latter-day Stones, are there? They have cancelled South America in 1975 (didn't do the tour at all) and Ireland in 1982? Probably some more in the 70s, but in between 1989-2017?

They played Ireland in 1982. Second to last date of the tour.

Sorry, I meant this gig. Wrong country, too...

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