he played and contributed on two-thirds of the tracks

Good question. Maybe his nose was to swollen to fit onto the cover.

Probably didn't have a photo of him to match the other living members? The side profile shot.

Because Decca didnt give a damn. Had Rolling Stones records released it they would have erased him as well as Taylor and Wyman on later releases.

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Because Decca didnt give a damn. Had Rolling Stones records released it they would have erased him as well as Taylor and Wyman on later releases.

Decca didn't release it.


"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"

The 1971 line up is shown. BJ wasn't a band member in the year of release.



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Brian is on the back cover, and is seen on other photos in the interior gate fold sleeve.

Included is the original group shot of the Stones with Brian--the one that was used when their faces were cut out and placed on the label of the record seen on the cover of Let It Bleed.

Except Brian's face--which was cropped out and replaced by a pic of Mick Taylor.

Think of the release: late 1971.

Mick Taylor had been in the band 2 years and into his 3rd year.

That's the context by ABKCO standards then.

Very odd...it was released by ABKCO in the UK....but in the States it was released by London Records.
Ironic.

As far as I know, the photo was taken especially for the compilation, thus a fresh new photo.

"Hot Rocks" was the first part of the original settlement with Klein / ABKCO and it was with The Stones' own blessing it was released. It was a different matter in Europe, where Decca released substandard compilations, without any Stones involvement.

The ABKCO / Stones agreement was that they could release 2 compilations + one with outtakes. "Hot Rocks" was the first, the second was to be "Necrophilia", which was then cancelled and instead replaced with "More Hot Rocks".
The Stones (Bill Wyman and Charlie Watts), oversaw a compilation of outtakes
(Black Box) in hope to gain a little control, however ABKCO chose to make a combination of the scrapped "Necrophilia" and "Black Box", thus "Metamorphosis" was born.

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Very odd...it was released by ABKCO in the UK....but in the States it was released by London Records.
Ironic.

Wrong. It wasn't released in Europe / UK, until 1985 (as two seperate releases).
The initial UK release, or the one advertised as a double album, was in 1990.

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Very odd...it was released by ABKCO in the UK....but in the States it was released by London Records.
Ironic.

Wrong. It wasn't released in Europe / UK, until 1985 (as two seperate releases).
The initial UK release, or the one advertised as a double album, was in 1990.

Indeed. We got Rolled Gold on Decca in 1975 and Brian is on the cover!


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Blueranger
As far as I know, the photo was taken especially for the compilation, thus a fresh new photo.

"Hot Rocks" was the first part of the original settlement with Klein / ABKCO and it was with The Stones' own blessing it was released. It was a different matter in Europe, where Decca released substandard compilations, without any Stones involvement.

The ABKCO / Stones agreement was that they could release 2 compilations + one with outtakes. "Hot Rocks" was the first, the second was to be "Necrophilia", which was then cancelled and instead replaced with "More Hot Rocks".
The Stones (Bill Wyman and Charlie Watts), oversaw a compilation of outtakes
(Black Box) in hope to gain a little control, however ABKCO chose to make a combination of the scrapped "Necrophilia" and "Black Box", thus "Metamorphosis" was born.

Aaah..the 'Black Box' album.
Wonder if it will ever see the light of day?

Where's Bill?

There will be box sets full of outtakes. - After the death of Mick Jagger.

There even was in 2015 a version available as a print with a real bad edit of Bill.



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Why isn't Mick Taylor on the Cover of More Hot Rocks?

Both Brian and Taylor are on the cover of Rolled Gold I and II.





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Where's Bill?

Has to be one of the lamest, cheapest, unforgivable things the Stones have ever done.
Wonder whose idea it was?

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Has to be one of the lamest, cheapest, unforgivable things the Stones have ever done.
Wonder whose idea it was?

I'll give you one guess...

In all likelihood, since Bill never signed the Virgin contract, you can't include him on an album cover without coming to an agreement. Why bother when he can be photo-shopped out? What's the worst that will happen - a bunch of obsessive compulsive fans will discuss it on a message board?

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Has to be one of the lamest, cheapest, unforgivable things the Stones have ever done.
Wonder whose idea it was?

I'll give you one guess...

It was a rhetorical question and think I know, but didn't want to be labeled a "hater" from various cheerleaders.

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In all likelihood, since Bill never signed the Virgin contract, you can't include him on an album cover without coming to an agreement. Why bother when he can be photo-shopped out? What's the worst that will happen - a bunch of obsessive compulsive fans will discuss it on a message board?

It's a cheap shot, and an attempt at rewriting history.
But you're probably right in regards to the reasoning for omitting him.

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I would have preferred yet another lapping tongue to airbrushing him out, but they have yet to consult me on these things. One of the things I was thinking of lately. Think how hard it must be to produce this band and not be overwhelmed that you're actually with them in the studio and hearing new songs come together. I wonder how many of us would be able to hear objectively when you're listening to it come together in the studio. Somehow I doubt it compares to anything most of us can imagine. It would certainly color your perception of the songs.

If a band release a bunch of songs, and one or more of the original members isnt in the band anymore then these members should be included in the photo shoot if even one of the songs on the album was of their time.

Different case if the albums live.

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As far as I know, the photo was taken especially for the compilation, thus a fresh new photo.

"Hot Rocks" was the first part of the original settlement with Klein / ABKCO and it was with The Stones' own blessing it was released. It was a different matter in Europe, where Decca released substandard compilations, without any Stones involvement.

The ABKCO / Stones agreement was that they could release 2 compilations + one with outtakes. "Hot Rocks" was the first, the second was to be "Necrophilia", which was then cancelled and instead replaced with "More Hot Rocks".
The Stones (Bill Wyman and Charlie Watts), oversaw a compilation of outtakes
(Black Box) in hope to gain a little control, however ABKCO chose to make a combination of the scrapped "Necrophilia" and "Black Box", thus "Metamorphosis" was born.

Aaah..the 'Black Box' album.
Wonder if it will ever see the light of day?

Except for 2 tracks, "Godzi" and "Panama Powder Room", all of it has been released by now on other compilations: [www.50thirdand3rd.com]

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Blueranger
As far as I know, the photo was taken especially for the compilation, thus a fresh new photo.

"Hot Rocks" was the first part of the original settlement with Klein / ABKCO and it was with The Stones' own blessing it was released. It was a different matter in Europe, where Decca released substandard compilations, without any Stones involvement.

The ABKCO / Stones agreement was that they could release 2 compilations + one with outtakes. "Hot Rocks" was the first, the second was to be "Necrophilia", which was then cancelled and instead replaced with "More Hot Rocks".
The Stones (Bill Wyman and Charlie Watts), oversaw a compilation of outtakes
(Black Box) in hope to gain a little control, however ABKCO chose to make a combination of the scrapped "Necrophilia" and "Black Box", thus "Metamorphosis" was born.

Aaah..the 'Black Box' album.
Wonder if it will ever see the light of day?

Except for 2 tracks, "Godzi" and "Panama Powder Room", all of it has been released by now on other compilations: [www.50thirdand3rd.com]

Interesting that both of the two are Mick and Keith (PPR) and Godzi (group effort, Nanker Phelge) compositions thereby generating publishing income for ABKCO.
Yet publishing was one of the reasons why Klein ditched Bill's album listings.

You want to sell the album and putting a guy who died a couple years before isn't great marketing.
Sorry.

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If a band release a bunch of songs, and one or more of the original members isnt in the band anymore then these members should be included in the photo shoot if even one of the songs on the album was of their time.

Different case if the albums live.

I wonder what Charlie thought.One assumes he had some input.
He's supposed to be good mates with Bill, isn't he?

Hardly the same but the Rarities alteration did bring to mind a regular practice of Stalin's:


“After Stalin had Comrade Nikolai Yezhov executed, his image was removed from the official photo.”

(If the Beatles could get clearances for all the people on the Sgt. Pepper cover, I doubt Bill's absence is due to a "Virgin contract.")