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DandelionPowderman
When hearing embryos of songs like Dandelion we hear this more clearly. The chords are down, and some of the melody is down from Keith. The melody then becomes somewhat altered by Mick's words and phrasing - and out of this springs a somewhat new song.
So, Mick's melodic work with the lyrics should never be underestimated, even though it is a "Keith-melody".
Yes, they both write melody that way.
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LongBeachArena72
Ok, cool.
So in the case of a band like The Who, though, I presume that Townshend provides the vocal line that Daltrey sings (since Daltrey doesn't get a songwriting credit)?
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His Majesty
Isn't that staged for the cameras though?
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LongBeachArena72
Ok, cool.
So in the case of a band like The Who, though, I presume that Townshend provides the vocal line that Daltrey sings (since Daltrey doesn't get a songwriting credit)?
Pete usually came in with complete songs. In some instances they simply replaced parts of his home demos.
A very different set up to the stones way of doing things, atleast in Jones and Taylor years.
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His Majesty
Isn't that staged for the cameras though?
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His Majesty
Isn't that staged for the cameras though?
Always wondered the same.
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His Majesty
Isn't that staged for the cameras though?
Always wondered the same.
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Rocky Dijon
Being passive-aggressive or worse, too wasted to fight for your share from the start means you'll be steamrolled over. The meek might inherit the Earth, but they won't see any royalties.
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Rocky Dijon
While I think that's generally the case, LongBeachArena72, there are still examples as recent as 2005 where bits of Mick color a track like "Infamy" and bits of Keith color a track like "Let Me Down Slow."
It's really no different than Henry Mancini composing all those songs but when you hear the records he's subsequently arranged them for his orchestra or the chords he picked out on piano are now played by Plas Johnson on tenor sax. Did Johnson contribute creatively? I would say so as a fan. He might have thought so, too. The credit stays with the guy who first picked the tune out on piano.
How does this relate to The Stones? Well for starters, Ronnie owns Plas Johnson's tenor sax that he used when cutting "The Pink Panther Theme" in 1963, but the bigger issue is credit for contributions will always be fraught with controversy.
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His Majesty
Isn't that staged for the cameras though?
Always wondered the same.
Not the only time Jagger's acting has left something to be desired.
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DandelionPowderman
Long Beach, you need to sit down with the Satanic sessions for a few days. It will answer many of your questions.
And, yes, the writers do instruct - even geniuses like Nicky
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NICOS
Basically you can say that Keith write all the music ar least till 1972............I remember another interview where Mick stated I don't write music (melody) Keith does, I think it was 1969
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NICOS
Basically you can say that Keith write all the music ar least till 1972............I remember another interview where Mick stated I don't write music (melody) Keith does, I think it was 1969
[www.youtube.com]
Mick wrote Brown Sugar in Australia while filming the Ned Kelly movie, july 1969.
Ofcourse a song grows with a whole band playing it rehearsed, but in this video you see Mick doing an embryo version of Brown Sugar backstage in MSG, NYC 1969.
video: [youtu.be]
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His Majesty
I think it's clear that, say for the first 10 years or so, without Keith the large majority of songs simply wouldn't exist.
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TheflyingDutchman
They finished it in Essen 1970, but felt the need to record it in 1971. One of the biggest ego efforts of the glimmer twins.
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TheflyingDutchman
They finished it in Essen 1970, but felt the need to record it in 1971. One of the biggest ego efforts of the glimmer twins.
The basics were recorded in December 1969, no?