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Hairball
Would have thought the Christmas buying spirit would have helped sales as it did with Blue and Lonesome!
Whatever the case, not bad for 50+ year old recordings from men who are now in their mid 70's.
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Cristiano Radtke
Mick talks about "On Air" on the newest Mojo magazine (February 2018)
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Cristiano Radtke
Mick talks about "On Air" on the newest Mojo magazine (February 2018)
It's very telling that the interviewer has more words in the interview than the interviewee.
Mick should forget about trying to be so "current" and just learn to appreciate his body of work -- just bite the bullet and get "super involved" with ABKCO and celebrate the legacy of what made them so essential to begin with.
I have the 2-disc version of this new and official release -- the first disc is great, Bill Wyman right up front and center in the that big booming mono bass fashion -- the "Disc 2 - Bonus Tracks", well not so much, barely less than bootleg quality. But the first disc is worth the price of admission for sure, at last a "true blue" version of what's been heard on bootlegs all these years.
But until Mr. Jagger gets off his high horse, accepts his mistake in signing over his life to Allen Klein in the early days and just lets bygones be bygones, then for those 60s studio outtakes the bootleggers are going to be in business for a long time to come.
He could at least swallow his eternal pride and make a few dimes and improve on what the bootleggers have been providing for years.
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Cristiano Radtke
Mick talks about "On Air" on the newest Mojo magazine (February 2018)
It's very telling that the interviewer has more words in the interview than the interviewee.
Mick should forget about trying to be so "current" and just learn to appreciate his body of work -- just bite the bullet and get "super involved" with ABKCO and celebrate the legacy of what made them so essential to begin with.
I have the 2-disc version of this new and official release -- the first disc is great, Bill Wyman right up front and center in the that big booming mono bass fashion -- the "Disc 2 - Bonus Tracks", well not so much, barely less than bootleg quality. But the first disc is worth the price of admission for sure, at last a "true blue" version of what's been heard on bootlegs all these years.
But until Mr. Jagger gets off his high horse, accepts his mistake in signing over his life to Allen Klein in the early days and just lets bygones be bygones, then for those 60s studio outtakes the bootleggers are going to be in business for a long time to come.
He could at least swallow his eternal pride and make a few dimes and improve on what the bootleggers have been providing for years.
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Hairball
You would think Mick might be more willing to reach an agreement to release some of the ABKO stuff even if he's not making millions from it. It would keep his name and the band in the press, and it would teach the youth to have more of an appreciation of the Stones early years and legacy - possibly resulting in more Stones material being gobbled up from all eras which could make a profit for Mick/the Stones. It might also have led to better sales of Getta Grip for example, although that theory could also backfire - if someone heard and hated Getta Grip, not as likely they would be interested in anything from Mick and/or the bands past history. Don't want to say Getta Grip has tainted the legacy as there's enough from the past few decades which is already doing the job, but releasing more historical archives from the vault helps to balance it all out. Mick should realize this.
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kish_stoned
VOODOO LOUNGE has got 10 bootlegs cds lotof the songs are very good and could have been put out as double cd,diffrent songs then the orginal VOODOO LUNGE CD,plus diff versions too.Merry xmas to e.one have agood one.
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Monsoon Ragoon
What I finally ordered was the London Calling release. It has far more tracks than the official release for less money. The quality varies from (poor) g-vg soundboard for some tracks to official sound, but the poor recordings are probably not available better and missing on the official counterpart. It also has a nice booklet. I don't think the DAC or Godfather releases are really better.
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24FPS
Jesus H. Christ. I just heard Walking The Dog, Little by Little, and Ain't That Loving You Baby. What a rhythm section. Now I see what the Stones had the Beatles never could pull off, danger.
Danger ? I thought you were going to say the ability to mis-label tracks, use inferior sources and end the song on a sloppy drum fill.
But seriously, both groups had superb rhythm sections enabling the band to do their thing which in the Fab4's case was principally vocals and songwriting. Everything else is the accompaniment. In the Stones case they were more of a big noise unit (er?) - Get Off Of My Cloud 45 mix being perhaps the prime example and yes indeed, extremely dangerous if not downright threatening in the same way the Jumping Jack Flash single is.
What struck me on revisiting these BBC tracks is that on the first session, Charlie doesn't seem quite there yet, many of his fills are way off but Bill is already pretty much right on it. Both versions of Roll Over Beethoven (Saturday Club and the January 64 Go Man Go) show Charlie not quite on it for my money.
By Spring/mid 64 the whole band has improved massively in confidence,strength and unity and seem to have a clear idea about where they should be going even if they haven't got their songwriting together.
Bill's bass on Aint That Loving You Baby has always been a favourite of mine but he shines throughout. What remained for the Stones to do at this point (mid-64) was to Taylor (!) their own songs to their new-found strength and group identity on a regular basis. Funnily enough, by that point (Spring 64) they'd been together (if not played) for the requisite 10,000 hours or 416 days-ish. By the time they arrived at Chess they were shit hot. The BBC tracks give us the chance to hear a bit of that development. Much as I love later Stones (1965,66,67,68,69,70,71,72), I've always thoroughly enjoyed their 1964 output. Not quite there but just about to quantum leap which in my opinion happened with Satisfaction. That is their "She Loves You" moment. I'm gonna have to agree with you on danger now aren't I ?!
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24FPS
Jesus H. Christ. I just heard Walking The Dog, Little by Little, and Ain't That Loving You Baby. What a rhythm section. Now I see what the Stones had the Beatles never could pull off, danger.
Danger ? I thought you were going to say the ability to mis-label tracks, use inferior sources and end the song on a sloppy drum fill.
But seriously, both groups had superb rhythm sections enabling the band to do their thing which in the Fab4's case was principally vocals and songwriting. Everything else is the accompaniment. In the Stones case they were more of a big noise unit (er?) - Get Off Of My Cloud 45 mix being perhaps the prime example and yes indeed, extremely dangerous if not downright threatening in the same way the Jumping Jack Flash single is.
What struck me on revisiting these BBC tracks is that on the first session, Charlie doesn't seem quite there yet, many of his fills are way off but Bill is already pretty much right on it. Both versions of Roll Over Beethoven (Saturday Club and the January 64 Go Man Go) show Charlie not quite on it for my money.
By Spring/mid 64 the whole band has improved massively in confidence,strength and unity and seem to have a clear idea about where they should be going even if they haven't got their songwriting together.
Bill's bass on Aint That Loving You Baby has always been a favourite of mine but he shines throughout. What remained for the Stones to do at this point (mid-64) was to Taylor (!) their own songs to their new-found strength and group identity on a regular basis. Funnily enough, by that point (Spring 64) they'd been together (if not played) for the requisite 10,000 hours or 416 days-ish. By the time they arrived at Chess they were shit hot. The BBC tracks give us the chance to hear a bit of that development. Much as I love later Stones (1965,66,67,68,69,70,71,72), I've always thoroughly enjoyed their 1964 output. Not quite there but just about to quantum leap which in my opinion happened with Satisfaction. That is their "She Loves You" moment. I'm gonna have to agree with you on danger now aren't I ?!
Correct me if I am wrong, but according to Bill Wyman's spoken words on my old vinyl bootleg STONES AT THE BEEP, which does not cover anything that the Stones did for BBC, as far as I remember this without searching for that boot, Charlie and possibly also Bill himself did not take part in all the BBC sessions. The reason was that both Charlie and Bill had normal paid jobs and were not always able to turn up. In their place a couple of other musicians were used as stand-ins. I don't remember their names precisely, but something like Carlo Little vaguely emerges in my mind.
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Harlem Shuffler
Deluxe available at HMV in Great Britain for £9.99.