There is a strong rumor that on November 2 there will be an announcement of major X-mas Beatles release. I have a feeling that we'll have a collision of releases.
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There is a strong rumor that on November 2 there will be an announcement of major X-mas Beatles release. I have a feeling that we'll have a collision of releases.
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Just to check - is there anything on the 2CD version that is not previously available on bootleg?

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Just to check - is there anything on the 2CD version that is not previously available on bootleg?

syrel

No.

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Just to check - is there anything on the 2CD version that is not previously available on bootleg?

syrel

No but the sound may be significantly better on some tracks in this release.

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There is a strong rumor that on November 2 there will be an announcement of major X-mas Beatles release. I have a feeling that we'll have a collision of releases.
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I have no problem buying multiple Christmas presents for myself. Lol. It would be nice if the DVD of the Stones On Air was released too. Beatles and Stones at Christmas would be awesome!

"Fifty three years ago today, in 1964, Rhythm & Blues broadcast a very special experimental radio session from The Rolling Stones designed to be listened to ‘in stereo’. To get the stereo effect, the listeners were given rather complex instructions. This is one of the first times in history the stereophonic sound was ever heard on air."



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I don't know what the album will be like, but I am enjoying the book: for instance I didn't know about the great BBC row in 1964, when the band failed to show up for a Saturday Club booking. The book reproduces the pompous internal memos as the BBC management try to decide how to punish these arrogant young upstarts - can their "commercial gramophone records" be banned from the airwaves, to teach them a "salutary lesson"? They were certainly not allowed to appear on Top of the Pops the week Little Red Rooster was No.1 as a result.

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"Fifty three years ago today, in 1964, Rhythm & Blues broadcast a very special experimental radio session from The Rolling Stones designed to be listened to ‘in stereo’. To get the stereo effect, the listeners were given rather complex instructions. This is one of the first times in history the stereophonic sound was ever heard on air."



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Dear Rolling Stones .
That was actually for the March 19th 1964 recording broadcast on BBC Radio Network 3 and television on May 9th 1964.
The 31st October 1964 broadcast on the General Overseas Service was a completely different non-stereo broadcast.
A bit sad they got that wrong. Some of us still think facts are important and non-negotiable, even for matters concerning a pop group.

and you could suggest it was one of the first times this kind of thing happened but the BBC had already run dozens of experiments in "stereophony" starting in 1959 as can be seen if you type stereophony into the BBC genome website

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Extra bonus,calender, with the Japan release

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"The BBC refused The Stones’ first application to play on the air. When they were finally considered, on this very day fifty-five years ago, the booking manager of the show wrote a letter to the band “…your name has now been added to the list of artists available for broadcasting generally. This does not mean, of course, that offers of engagements will automatically follow, but simply that you may be considered..."



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Ahha. Donald Maclean was an infamous British Spy in World War 2 and the Cold War period that followed.
One of the 'Cambridge Five'. He defected to the Soviet Union and died sometime in the 1980's.

Seriously, didn't the Beeb think that it was Mick who was 'the weakest link'?

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Ahha. Donald Maclean was an infamous British Spy in World War 2 and the Cold War period that followed.
One of the 'Cambridge Five'. He defected to the Soviet Union and died sometime in the 1980's.

Seriously, didn't the Beeb think that it was Mick who was 'the weakest link'?

Different Mr. Maclean, the spy defected to the USSR in 1951.


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Uncut magazine, January 2018

No news of the Documentary?
Christmas TV viewing perhaps.

Can't wait for this release! Thanks for posting, Cristiano

Rough translation from an interview with the Abbey Road engineers who worked on this release, published on an Italian website.

"The Rolling Stones - On Air": Abbey Road technicians tell how the new de-mix technology works

Shortly before the British Invasion became reality, between 1963 and 1965, the Rolling Stones were familiar with the BBC studios, playing live in their best programs (including 'Top gear' and 'Saturday Club', 'Rhythm and blues 'and' The Joe Loss pop show). "The Rolling Stones - On Air", available as a standard CD (18 tracks) and a deluxe version (both as a double CD or as a double vinyl 180 grams - 32 songs) - is the result of a sorting and selection of many of those performances between 1963 and 1965: the news is that in this case, to make a difference to the typical archive effort is the technological treatment to which the sound has been subjected to in Abbey Road Studios.

Thanks to the de-mix, or de-mixing system, audio engineers can de-structure a song in its essential lines and basically create not only new master but, unpublished, new mixes. Recordings can be deconstructed by separating each sound whether it is mono or multitrack engraving. Working on balance and instrument and voice levels, re-mixing and re-mixing recording, album pieces almost come to life again. We talked to James Clarke and Lewis Jones, head of the team at Abbey Road, who followed the project.

"We found the process of de-mixing very electrifying, going through the consultation and forensic research of the material - thanks to our sources and our archive experience - before designing what we call "audio source models" that need to set de-mixing and switching to effective audio separation".

There are 32 songs scattered in three years of BBC shows: how did you start work?

"The first piece we put on hand was "Satisfaction": here, for example, the voice and the drums were not very prominent and we tried to emphasize some dynamics and sounds. This technology allows sound engineers to use previously unavailable tools ... "

A work in mono...

"With the mono, which has objectively strong limits, could soon get remastered, while today we can disassemble and remix. It is important: since the quality of each track was very variable, in fact, we could handle each one in a different way. We found that the status of the mono with which the songs had been recorded was so satisfying that trying to make it stereo seemed unnecessary, and we did not do it. "

Have you found some unexpected little things by dismantling and renovating the songs?

"In terms of sound, we can not say that we have discovered something that was not felt before, but that was not the focus. Instead, we could focus on cleaning the sound itself, as much of the material was not up to the conditions under which it had been recorded at the time and much of it sounded unbalanced. By separating instruments and tracks, we have found new munitions compared to the past and we have been able to improve the balance in the instrumentation: de-mixing allows you to intervene in a targeted manner on the individual equalization levels, operating on one while ignoring all the others . Just think of what it means to be able to act on the bass without having a negative impact on percussion and voice... ".

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If Aint That Loving You Baby is the same version we all know and love it is from Top Gear 23 July 1964 and not Rhythm and Blues 31 Oct 1964.
Looking forward to this release. Hope they found some upgraded source tapes.

"We've been using 'You Better Move On' in our act for ages and it has always gone down well; that's why we decided to record it"

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"We've been using 'You Better Move On' in our act for ages and it has always gone down well; that's why we decided to record it"

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NME February 28, 1964.




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"We've been using 'You Better Move On' in our act for ages and it has always gone down well; that's why we decided to record it"

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NME February 28, 1964.

Great find!

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Uncut magazine, January 2018

I hate idiot journalists. The story claims the guitars tussle with Jagger's harp on Come On. It's a live recording, right? No overdubs? Then how the hell could Jagger sing and play harp at the same time? I can't figure out if the author had dumb ears, or had no idea that Brian very often played harp in those days.

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"We've been using 'You Better Move On' in our act for ages and it has always gone down well; that's why we decided to record it"

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NME February 28, 1964.

Mike Jagger?

Mojo magazine, January 2018.

Check out the demixer that demonstrates the restoration that has taken place on 'The Rolling Stones: On Air' album. Apply the demix process to the tracks yourself with your very own mixing desk and hear the difference the technology has made at: [www.rollingstones.com]

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