Anybody knows if the cd is included?

It is not included

You can't trust anyone these days, it seems

«The Rolling Stones: On Air in the Sixties' will be published by Penguin Random House on September 8

A new Rolling Stones album will be released along with an upcoming retrospective book.

The Rolling Stones: On Air in the Sixties will be published by Penguin Random House on September 8. It will chronicle the band’s radio and TV appearances during the first decade of their stardom».

– NME

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You can't trust anyone these days, it seems

«The Rolling Stones: On Air in the Sixties' will be published by Penguin Random House on September 8

A new Rolling Stones album will be released along with an upcoming retrospective book.

The Rolling Stones: On Air in the Sixties will be published by Penguin Random House on September 8. It will chronicle the band’s radio and TV appearances during the first decade of their stardom».

– NME

And:

"The first official, in-depth history of the Rolling Stones told through the band's television and radio broadcasts--appearance by appearance--published to tie in with the global release of a DVD containing recently discovered, never-before-released footage of the Stones on TV, in front of and behind the cameras."

[www.amazon.co.uk]

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DandelionPowderman
You can't trust anyone these days, it seems

«The Rolling Stones: On Air in the Sixties' will be published by Penguin Random House on September 8

A new Rolling Stones album will be released along with an upcoming retrospective book.

The Rolling Stones: On Air in the Sixties will be published by Penguin Random House on September 8. It will chronicle the band’s radio and TV appearances during the first decade of their stardom».

– NME

And:

"The first official, in-depth history of the Rolling Stones told through the band's television and radio broadcasts--appearance by appearance--published to tie in with the global release of a DVD containing recently discovered, never-before-released footage of the Stones on TV, in front of and behind the cameras."

[www.amazon.co.uk]

Maybe we'll have to wait for a deluxe-version?

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DandelionPowderman
You can't trust anyone these days, it seems

«The Rolling Stones: On Air in the Sixties' will be published by Penguin Random House on September 8

A new Rolling Stones album will be released along with an upcoming retrospective book.

The Rolling Stones: On Air in the Sixties will be published by Penguin Random House on September 8. It will chronicle the band’s radio and TV appearances during the first decade of their stardom».

– NME

And:

"The first official, in-depth history of the Rolling Stones told through the band's television and radio broadcasts--appearance by appearance--published to tie in with the global release of a DVD containing recently discovered, never-before-released footage of the Stones on TV, in front of and behind the cameras."

[www.amazon.co.uk]

Maybe we'll have to wait for a deluxe-version?

Perhaps that's it. There was also some reports about a BBC documentary being exhibited, but there's no info about it so far.

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DandelionPowderman
You can't trust anyone these days, it seems

«The Rolling Stones: On Air in the Sixties' will be published by Penguin Random House on September 8

A new Rolling Stones album will be released along with an upcoming retrospective book.

The Rolling Stones: On Air in the Sixties will be published by Penguin Random House on September 8. It will chronicle the band’s radio and TV appearances during the first decade of their stardom».

– NME

And:

"The first official, in-depth history of the Rolling Stones told through the band's television and radio broadcasts--appearance by appearance--published to tie in with the global release of a DVD containing recently discovered, never-before-released footage of the Stones on TV, in front of and behind the cameras."

[www.amazon.co.uk]

Maybe we'll have to wait for a deluxe-version?

Perhaps that's it. There was also some reports about a BBC documentary being exhibited, but there's no info about it so far.

Remember what they did with A Bigger Bang?

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Remember what they did with A Bigger Bang?

No

So no CD, no DVD ?
Just another book?

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Remember what they did with A Bigger Bang?

No

Neither do I.

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Remember what they did with A Bigger Bang?

No

Neither do I.

They brought out the album and later issued it with extra tracks in the hope that people would buy it twice.

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Remember what they did with A Bigger Bang?

No

Neither do I.

They brought out the album and later issued it with extra tracks in the hope that people would buy it twice.

It came with a bonus DVD.
[www.45worlds.com]


"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"

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Remember what they did with A Bigger Bang?

No

Neither do I.

They brought out the album and later issued it with extra tracks in the hope that people would buy it twice.

It came with a bonus DVD.
[www.45worlds.com]

Well, maybe they'll do that with the book,Deltics.

BTW, what was on the DVD?

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Well, maybe they'll do that with the book,Deltics.

BTW, what was on the DVD?

Introduction to A Bigger Bang (Interview video)
Streets Of Love (Video)
Streets Of Love (Video 2)
Rough Justice (Video)
Under the Radar (Audio)
Don't Wanna Go Home (Audio)
Rain Fall Down (Ashley Beadle's Heavy Disco Vocal re-edit) (Audio)


"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"

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Remember what they did with A Bigger Bang?

No

Neither do I.

They brought out the album and later issued it with extra tracks in the hope that people would buy it twice.

It came with a bonus DVD.
[www.45worlds.com]

Well, maybe they'll do that with the book,Deltics.

BTW, what was on the DVD?

You mean ABB Special Edition?
There were 7 chapters. DVD1 - documentary 'making of'
DVD-1 Introduction To A Bigger Bang
Film Director – Michael Santorelli

DVD-2 Streets Of Love (Video)
Film Director, Narrator [Interactive Commentary] – Jake Nava

DVD-3 Streets Of Love (TV Performance)
Film Director – Laurel HarrisProducer – Michael Santorelli

DVD-4 Rough Justice (TV Performance)
Film Director – Laurel HarrisProducer – Michael Santorelli

DVD-5 Under The Radar
Photography – Mark Seliger

DVD-6 Don't Wanna Go Home
Photography – Steven Klein

DVD-7 Rain Fall Down (Ashley Beedles Heavy Disco Vocal Re Edit) (Multimedia Track)
Producer [Additional], Other [Musical Direction] – Ashley BeedleProgrammed By, Edited By – Ashley Beedle, Greg Fleming

Actually this is the only place to get officially outtakes Under The Radar and Don't Wanna Go Home

I don't think it's the publisher's fault the planned CD and DVD releases were delayed (if not outright scrapped - no word either way yet). I'm sure the publisher wanted the tie-in to happen. Cross-marketing sells more books after all, but if they alloted a marketing budget and promotion for the book, they either have to shelve everything until the others get their act together and hope they have enough of a budget in another fiscal year to allocate or they publish as planned without the tie-in. Evidently the latter happened. There's been no word from Eagle Rock or ABKCO or the BBC about a DVD and/or CD release. So we keep waiting.

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I don't think it's the publisher's fault the planned CD and DVD releases were delayed (if not outright scrapped - no word either way yet). I'm sure the publisher wanted the tie-in to happen. Cross-marketing sells more books after all, but if they alloted a marketing budget and promotion for the book, they either have to shelve everything until the others get their act together and hope they have enough of a budget in another fiscal year to allocate or they publish as planned without the tie-in. Evidently the latter happened. There's been no word from Eagle Rock or ABKCO or the BBC about a DVD and/or CD release. So we keep waiting.

Perhaps it will get a Christmas release.
Perhaps ABKCO didn't want it to clash with the TSMR 50th release.
Perhaps the late Allen Klein is still up to his old tricks

Thank you, Deltics and ironbelly for above posts re info on A Bigger Bang DVD.

I didn't buy it on principal. They should have given us the option, releasing the album and the special edition simultaneously.

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Thank you, Deltics and ironbelly for above posts re info on A Bigger Bang DVD.

I didn't buy it on principal. They should have given us the option, releasing the album and the special edition simultaneously.

Bought it when it was in the sales section...

I've bought the Kindle book which has turned out to be disappointing in terms of the research. Sure it's a nice looking book but the author has not checked the BBC documentation relating to the songs played on various BBC sessions thus repeating mistakes from Badman et al.
Extremely disappointing given that the author appears to have gone to the BBC Written Archive to look through the Stones Artist folder but didn't go to the room next door to check out the microfilms containing programme logs.
Details concerning the songs performed on the radio version of Top Beat 27 April 1964 are wrong, they played different sets from the TV version.Easily checked.

His attribution of Aint That Loving You Baby is wrong.

He makes no attempt to figure out where the "live" Roll Over Beethoven / Beautiful Delilah come from.

An old one but not addressed in this book either - on the 8th April 1964 Ready Steady Go Mod Ball how did they mime to playback of Hi Heel Sneakers and I'm Alright unless a session was held previously ?

Pop Inn Feb 18th 1964 - worth mentioning that while he lists Not Fade Away it was just the record that was played.

Teen Scene rec 22 Nov 1964 aired 27 Nov 1964 - the BBC file notes that it was due to be broadcast on the 22nd. Teen Scene was not broadcast on the 27th Nov.
No mention of the Nov 17th 1968 Top Gear preview of Beggars Banquet with possible Mick links.

The 1964 Radio Luxembourg session in March (release that acetate immediately fellas) is listed as having been recorded at Pye Studios but there's no suggestion or evidence why he might think that when previous Luxy shows by acts like Cliff and the Shads, Billy Fury etc.. were recorded at Radio Luxembourgs London studio at 38 Hertford Street.

29 April 1964 Top Of The Pops entry says the performance was possibly repeated November / December 1965 - well why not look it up and confirm it ?? You could go to the room next door to check.

How much of the Ready Steady Go / Thank Your Lucky Stars comes from new research or previous books / websites etc..?

It does look nice, but I can't be all that complimentary about the research. There is no evidence that Aint That Loving You Baby was recorded for the Rhythm and Blues show. It was recorded for the July Top Gear. It's on the BBC documentation. So I can only assume he didn't check and relied on Badman et al. for much of this information which is a shame.
I know this may seem picky but shouldn't a book like this be factual and well researched. Given that BBC documentation survives (unlike many of the independent television stations and Radio Luxembourg), wouldn't you go to check any surviving available-from-the-time documentation especially when you're in the room next door ?

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I've bought the Kindle book which has turned out to be disappointing in terms of the research. Sure it's a nice looking book but the author has not checked the BBC documentation relating to the songs played on various BBC sessions thus repeating mistakes from Badman et al.
Extremely disappointing given that the author appears to have gone to the BBC Written Archive to look through the Stones Artist folder but didn't go to the room next door to check out the microfilms containing programme logs.
Details concerning the songs performed on the radio version of Top Beat 27 April 1964 are wrong, they played different sets from the TV version.Easily checked.

His attribution of Aint That Loving You Baby is wrong.

He makes no attempt to figure out where the "live" Roll Over Beethoven / Beautiful Delilah come from.

An old one but not addressed in this book either - on the 8th April 1964 Ready Steady Go Mod Ball how did they mime to playback of Hi Heel Sneakers and I'm Alright unless a session was held previously ?

Pop Inn Feb 18th 1964 - worth mentioning that while he lists Not Fade Away it was just the record that was played.

Teen Scene rec 22 Nov 1964 aired 27 Nov 1964 - the BBC file notes that it was due to be broadcast on the 22nd. Teen Scene was not broadcast on the 27th Nov.
No mention of the Nov 17th 1968 Top Gear preview of Beggars Banquet with possible Mick links.

The 1964 Radio Luxembourg session in March (release that acetate immediately fellas) is listed as having been recorded at Pye Studios but there's no suggestion or evidence why he might think that when previous Luxy shows by acts like Cliff and the Shads, Billy Fury etc.. were recorded at Radio Luxembourgs London studio at 38 Hertford Street.

29 April 1964 Top Of The Pops entry says the performance was possibly repeated November / December 1965 - well why not look it up and confirm it ?? You could go to the room next door to check.

How much of the Ready Steady Go / Thank Your Lucky Stars comes from new research or previous books / websites etc..?

It does look nice, but I can't be all that complimentary about the research. There is no evidence that Aint That Loving You Baby was recorded for the Rhythm and Blues show. It was recorded for the July Top Gear. It's on the BBC documentation. So I can only assume he didn't check and relied on Badman et al. for much of this information which is a shame.
I know this may seem picky but shouldn't a book like this be factual and well researched. Given that BBC documentation survives (unlike many of the independent television stations and Radio Luxembourg), wouldn't you go to check any surviving available-from-the-time documentation especially when you're in the room next door ?

Your knowledge is very impressive, ash. They should have asked you to carry out the project!

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I've bought the Kindle book which has turned out to be disappointing in terms of the research. Sure it's a nice looking book but the author has not checked the BBC documentation relating to the songs played on various BBC sessions thus repeating mistakes from Badman et al.
Extremely disappointing given that the author appears to have gone to the BBC Written Archive to look through the Stones Artist folder but didn't go to the room next door to check out the microfilms containing programme logs.
Details concerning the songs performed on the radio version of Top Beat 27 April 1964 are wrong, they played different sets from the TV version.Easily checked.

His attribution of Aint That Loving You Baby is wrong.

He makes no attempt to figure out where the "live" Roll Over Beethoven / Beautiful Delilah come from.

An old one but not addressed in this book either - on the 8th April 1964 Ready Steady Go Mod Ball how did they mime to playback of Hi Heel Sneakers and I'm Alright unless a session was held previously ?

Pop Inn Feb 18th 1964 - worth mentioning that while he lists Not Fade Away it was just the record that was played.

Teen Scene rec 22 Nov 1964 aired 27 Nov 1964 - the BBC file notes that it was due to be broadcast on the 22nd. Teen Scene was not broadcast on the 27th Nov.
No mention of the Nov 17th 1968 Top Gear preview of Beggars Banquet with possible Mick links.

The 1964 Radio Luxembourg session in March (release that acetate immediately fellas) is listed as having been recorded at Pye Studios but there's no suggestion or evidence why he might think that when previous Luxy shows by acts like Cliff and the Shads, Billy Fury etc.. were recorded at Radio Luxembourgs London studio at 38 Hertford Street.

29 April 1964 Top Of The Pops entry says the performance was possibly repeated November / December 1965 - well why not look it up and confirm it ?? You could go to the room next door to check.

How much of the Ready Steady Go / Thank Your Lucky Stars comes from new research or previous books / websites etc..?

It does look nice, but I can't be all that complimentary about the research. There is no evidence that Aint That Loving You Baby was recorded for the Rhythm and Blues show. It was recorded for the July Top Gear. It's on the BBC documentation. So I can only assume he didn't check and relied on Badman et al. for much of this information which is a shame.
I know this may seem picky but shouldn't a book like this be factual and well researched. Given that BBC documentation survives (unlike many of the independent television stations and Radio Luxembourg), wouldn't you go to check any surviving available-from-the-time documentation especially when you're in the room next door ?

Impressive knowledge!
I persue you to contact the author right away, so he can correct the errors.
Seriously.

I got the book today and I should say that at first look it is very disappointing.
While there is numerous watermarked shots for this era instead we got the well known pictures.I expected more unseen stuff.

HMN

The reason I know all this stuff is because I've been writing a book on BBC Radio sessions for the last few years covering the period 1958 to 67. I made the decision early on to check everything, even re-checking Mark Lewisohn's Beatle work which is incidentally of the highest order. Sadly, previous Stones authors did not check the BBC programme logs thoroughly and subsequent books have copied these erroneous details. It's very disappointing. My current list of Stones BBC music sessions is in one of the more recent threads concerning the Stones BBC sessions.

Hi Ash......would really like to see an accurate list of BBC sessions. Can you post your list please or give a link? Thank you.

No proper blurb yet, just the bare bones but this is where I'm at Stones-wise. This info is direct from the BBC programme as broadcast sheets (pasb) compiled for every single BBC broadcast and stored broadly in broadcast order for the entire history of the corporation. I have more than double checked this info. If there's an error it's my own dumb fault or a typo ! TX means transmission date.


1963
rec september 23 tx saturday club october 26
talking about you / money / come on / memphis tennessee / roll over beethoven
Bo Diddley tracks with Bill, Charlie and maybe Brian (??) - bo diddley / road runner / pretty thing / hey bo diddley

The last three songs performed by The Rolling Stones have survived in excellent quality and this programme served as a trial broadcast for the Stones. Some have suggested Brian didn't take part in the Bo Diddley session. Find that hard to believe. Need to check further.

1964

24 jan go man go (live broadcast) i wanna be your man/pretty thing/bye bye johnny/you better move on/i want to be loved/roll over beethoven 2.15

I believe the ROB credited to a March Sat Club comes from here. They did not appear on Saturday Club in March or any other date not previously known and the ambient sound convinces me this is where ROB comes from (compared to similar show tapes) and accounts for the audience. Track length matches too.Where else could it be from ?

february 3 saturday club tx 8 february 64 don’t lie to me / you better move on / i wanna be your man / mona / walking the dog / bye bye johnny

19 march rec rhythm and blues tx may 9 broadcast on network 3 and television, one for each channel
route 66 / cops and robbers / you better move on / mona

10 april the joe loss pop show (live tx) not fade away / high heel sneakers / little by little / i just wanna make love to you / i’m moving on

13 april saturday club tx 18 april i just wanna make love to you / walking the dog / not fade away / beautiful delilah /hi heeled sneakers / carol

27 April Top Beat (live tx) walking the dog 3.00 you can make it if you try 2.05 beautiful delilah 2.10

2 shows today, one on radio, one on tv both live broadcasts, radio broadcast first then show performed again for BBC tv but Stones played different songs. Beautiful Delilah credited to the non-existent March 64 Saturday Club almost certainly comes from this show. Again, ambient sound and audience seem to back this up as does track length.

Top Beat live TV BBC 2 not fade away 1.55, hi-heel sneakers 2.41, i’m all right 1.48 mcdaniel
this was performed live after the radio concert version. Badman has them performing the same set both times iirc but that is wrong.

May 9 1964 Open House live tx TV (BBC 2) pasb says Put On Your Red Dress Baby 2.43 (squire) / High Heeled Sneakers 1.51 (higgenbotham).

Clearly this can't be right but it's what the BBC documentation says.Further investigation needed. Speculation - could the second track be Not Fade Away ? Seems more likely they'd play their recent-ish single than play Sneakers twice !!

25 may saturday club tx 6 june down in the bottom / you can make it if you try / route 66 / confessin the blues / down the road apiece

17 july the joe loss pop show (live broadcast) it’s all over now / if you need me / confessin the blues / carol / mona

17 july top gear tx 23 july around and around/if you need me/i cant be satisfied/cracking up/ain’t that loving you baby/it’s all over now

The last two get credited to all sorts of shows but they are right there on the BBC paperwork for this show so I'm not sure where previous researchers went wrong on that one other than repeating someone's error.

8 oct tx rhythm and blues general overseas service 31 oct
dust my pyramids .25 / around and around/if you need me/i wanna love you 1.45 pitney/mona/2120 south michigan avenue 3.45

I have asked 2 people to check the archive for this one and they say it's not there contrary to various reports (though I hope they are wrong and it survives somewhere, 2120 exists) so we might never know the identity of "I Wanna Love You" though if I was a betting man I would say it's either a short version of I Just Want To Make Love To You slightly mis-titled and subsequently accidentally credited to Pitney, composer credits are generally correct on BBC paperwork but I've seen countless errors too or my second best guess for this song is that they mentioned Gene Pitney before playing Not Fade Away and the line I'm gonna love you night and day got mixed up. Less likely but other than that your guess is welcome. ASCAP, BMI credits etc.. reveal no song with that title copyrighted to Pitney. Personally I favour I just Wanna make Love to You (I Wanna Love You??).

1965

1 march 65 tx top gear 6 march down the road apiece/everybody needs somebody to lovel/the last time/if you need me

20 aug yeh, yeh tx 30 aug mercy, mercy/baby we’ve got a good thing going/satisfaction/spider and the fly
20 aug saturday club tx 18 sept satisfaction/the spider and the fly/ baby we got a good thing/cry to me/fannie mae

The same recordings were shared between these two shows with Mercy and Fannie Mae being an exclusive to each one. Yeh Yeh survives in full.


I have not started work on interviews/plug shows like Pop Inn, Teen Scene, Satanic Majesties / Beggars promos but have most of the raw research. Hope this is useful.

As noted, the On Air book completely omits the 17th November 1968 Top Gear where Mick and Keith turned up to provide intros for each song with presenter John Peel. The album was played in full. I've only sped-read On Air so apologies if I missed this in the book. It would seem like a significant show to mention even if no live music was played.
(my fave Stones album too for what it's worth !).

Thanks for the hard work Ash

HMN

Thank you ash....kingbeebuzz

Thanks to keep save my money in pockets Ash!