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Rocky Dijon
While I agree with egos and estrangement, I suspect Mick throwing it back at Keith saying "I did what you told me to do" was a way of defusing the situation. I'm sure Mick and Universal had discussions. Charlie and Ronnie must have known they were now playing on a Mick solo single and Don Was had to have been informed since he's not the producer. These went from potential Stones tracks to a solo single by April and I tend to believe the purpose was still to test the waters by Universal. We've heard there are similar sounding tracks in the offing. Had this been a big hit, it might have changed the direction of the album. They have a lot of potential material. Dozens of new songs from Mick, some Keith songs, and leftovers Don Was would like to release. Add to that the potential for different arrangements and versions of many of these songs and you can understand why settling on which 15 songs is a trick.

I really like Gotta Get a Grip (and all the different mixes) - it is a shame that it didn't become a hit. I still hope that they will include some of the stuff from this direction on the forthcoming album.

I am one who share your hope, GetYerAngie, that some material from broadly this direction will be included on that album.

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I like a few things about EL :
- when he mutters "didn't want to come anyway" as it's pretty funny and the delivery brings back good memories of the spoken parts of Too Much Blood
- the shortening : "I went to see England but England lost" -> "I went to see England but England" -> "I went to see England but" etc...
- the video, while totally unrelated to the theme of the song AFAICT is keeps you interested I suppose

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This is brilliant [m.youtube.com]

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bitusa2012

But this whole process just irritates me. It’s not how The Stones create their music. And, yes, I know that’s how they DO nowadays, especially in lockdown, but to me, it’s not how The Stones should create music. On a computer. Or am I wrong?

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But this whole process just irritates me. It’s not how The Stones create their music. And, yes, I know that’s how they DO nowadays, especially in lockdown, but to me, it’s not how The Stones should create music. On a computer. Or am I wrong?

Basically you've answered the question by yourself: "It’s not how The Stones should create music: on a computer." - "And, yes, I know that’s how they DO nowadays."

But that are the modern times, analogue productions are gone, now it's all digital (even the sources for Vinyl) and we have to live with it ....

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Analogue isn’t dead. [...] Sure it quite often goes into pro tools or whatever.

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Whale

It's a real shame this mix is not available on vinyl or CD

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Hairball
Musically sounds pretty good, but would probably be much better without the vocals and silly lyrics.
Wonder what Keith would think of this version - probably not much considering what he thought of the original idea based on what he said to Mick- "This ain't Stones material pal, release it on your own"

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Hairball
Musically sounds pretty good, but would probably be much better without the vocals and silly lyrics.
Wonder what Keith would think of this version - probably not much considering what he thought of the original idea based on what he said to Mick- "This ain't Stones material pal, release it on your own"

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Hairball
Musically sounds pretty good, but would probably be much better without the vocals and silly lyrics.
Wonder what Keith would think of this version - probably not much considering what he thought of the original idea based on what he said to Mick- "This ain't Stones material pal, release it on your own"

IMO the lyrics are quite good and the vocals very strong. And of course it could have been a good Stones single. It's not Stones-by-numbers-material, but Stones-material that rolls.