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LongBeachArena72
I would love for "Gotta Get a Grip" to be just a song ... and not some stupid run-up to an "album" that will be hyped mercilessly and disappear from public consciousness as quickly as it appeared.
I would love for Mick, or Keith, or the band, to just release music as its finished, get product out there, concentrate on making good songs, and hoping something gets traction just because it's so damn good.
They'll never do this, of course, since they're so wedded to the last-century paradigm of the album as an 'artistic statement' that is released every so often to an adoring fandom.
These guys are still at their ages and by many accounts constantly making music. Don't get so fracking hung up on being THE ROLLING STONES and having to release ONE LAST GREAT MAGNUM OPUS and just write, polish, record, and release some bitchen songs!
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LongBeachArena72
I would love for "Gotta Get a Grip" to be just a song ... and not some stupid run-up to an "album" that will be hyped mercilessly and disappear from public consciousness as quickly as it appeared.
I would love for Mick, or Keith, or the band, to just release music as its finished, get product out there, concentrate on making good songs, and hoping something gets traction just because it's so damn good.
They'll never do this, of course, since they're so wedded to the last-century paradigm of the album as an 'artistic statement' that is released every so often to an adoring fandom.
These guys are still at their ages and by many accounts constantly making music. Don't get so fracking hung up on being THE ROLLING STONES and having to release ONE LAST GREAT MAGNUM OPUS and just write, polish, record, and release some bitchen songs!
True true true... I hope also that Bob Dylan stops his old-fashionable habit of releasing these damn albums every damn year. In our hectic times, no one has any longer nerves or stamina to concentrate on such an 'artistic statement' that asks to listen some dozen songs one after other... and that old bugger dares to release even some bloody 'triplicate' - that sounds almost like a middle-finger statement towards contemporary world... Well, I guess 'old habits die hard' but fortunately very soon we don't need to worry any longer anything what these thick-headed old guard acts are doing since the mother nature will take care of that as he take care of that another old guard album guy Bowie...
But that said, it could be Jagger actually is as contemporary-thinking as you wish and just releases these two songs, and that's it... Him actually thinking that 'jeez, these two songs are so inspired that I just want them out, fvck the Stones and fvck the albums and fvck anything my adoring fans expect from me, I'll just want them out here and now...'
Cheers, LBA!
- Doxa, an old fart
P.S. I think that the CD format actually killed the old concept of an album as a 'artistic statement'; it offered new possibilities which took the form of 'quantity over quality', and the old notions of how to divide the sides from the other, how the flow of the songs go, having two opening and closing songs, and thereby each song having more profile and a determined place in the whole, and how the sides making two sub-statement within the over-all statement, just gradually - actually very quickly - disappeared and were just substituted by a rather random series of songs to picked up and played independently from each other (add there the new technological possibility to pick up or skip a singular track by just pushing a button - and people used that because there simply were so much weak filler material there). Our singular song-based Spotify paradigm is a logical consequence of that. I think BLUE & LONESOME is the first Stones album since the 80's that actually has a some kind old-fashionable 'artistic statement' like in the past in it.
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lem motlow
Hopefully all of micks attempts to stay current will end up on his solo record and the stones stuff will be something more timeless.his politics on bigger bang had a definite shelf life.nobody remembers what abu grab was and I can't remember the songs name that referred to it.still amazed the person that co-wrote gimme shelter could've written neocon.we don't need you singing the headlines to us mick but if you insist at least don't destroy the next rolling stones album with it,its forgettable and boring.
Jesus Christ I hope no one ever forgets that sh*tshow. Americans might have collective amnesia but I'm sure there are one or two places in the Arab world that will never forget Abu Ghraib.
. The Isis fighters burning the Jordanian pilot alive in a cage,lining up 21 of their enemy and beheading them en masse,the babies hit with chemical weapons and the 470000 dead from the Syrian war probably overshadowed S&M night at the prison camp 14 years ago just a bit.11 US soldiers were charged in military court and the victims sued the military contractor.however no one was ever charged criminally for the incident at abu graib or the bigger bang album.Quote
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lem motlow
Hopefully all of micks attempts to stay current will end up on his solo record and the stones stuff will be something more timeless.his politics on bigger bang had a definite shelf life.nobody remembers what abu grab was and I can't remember the songs name that referred to it.still amazed the person that co-wrote gimme shelter could've written neocon.we don't need you singing the headlines to us mick but if you insist at least don't destroy the next rolling stones album with it,its forgettable and boring.
Jesus Christ I hope no one ever forgets that sh*tshow. Americans might have collective amnesia but I'm sure there are one or two places in the Arab world that will never forget Abu Ghraib.
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Rocky Dijon
Interesting that he would cut a single in the midst of working on a Stones album. This does explain the solo studio time and remarks about "I'm working on new songs now" earlier this year.
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gotdablouse
Where do these titles come from, can't see them on the caps?
"Life At the Top" was mentioned on social media by the model but is gone now. Don't know what the title refers to (song/album/film) so I'm speculating only. The other title was my best attempt at reading the clapper board in the photo which lists Mick as the artist.
Close enough !
So it seems Mick pulled off another "secret project" like in 2001 when GGME appeared out of nowhere, will there be an album too, I certainly hope so! Contrast with the run in to Xeyed that was announced for years before it finally became available. Keith must be fuming but they tried Mick's tracks 12/2015 and it didn't work out so it was certainly the right decision.
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"England Lost", about Brexit?
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Hairball
And you say Crosseyed Heart was announced for years before it was finally released?All I recall is after an official announcement in mid 2015, a few tunes were leaked out during the month or two prior to release.
I don't even remember rumours of a Keith solo albumbefore all of that, or even that he was in the studio, but then again I don't really follow every step they make like some do..
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Hairball
And you say Crosseyed Heart was announced for years before it was finally released?All I recall is after an official announcement in mid 2015, a few tunes were leaked out during the month or two prior to release.
I don't even remember rumours of a Keith solo albumbefore all of that, or even that he was in the studio, but then again I don't really follow every step they make like some do..
I'm pretty sure the "Keith camp" was quick to point out that he had recorded a killer version of "One More Shot" pretty quickly after it got released by the Stones...
So yes, like I wrote, it's probably a good thing that these tracks (they have to be part of "Mick's 40 demos") that Keith didn't like don't get released by the Stones, but it's still bound to be viewed as as "distraction" by Keith if/when he gets interviewed before the fall tour and he'll likely have nothing good to say about it. You read it here first ;-)
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Jagger, Mick
Gotta Getta Grip / England Lost -2tr-
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Hairball
And you say Crosseyed Heart was announced for years before it was finally released?All I recall is after an official announcement in mid 2015, a few tunes were leaked out during the month or two prior to release.
I don't even remember rumours of a Keith solo albumbefore all of that, or even that he was in the studio, but then again I don't really follow every step they make like some do..
I'm pretty sure the "Keith camp" was quick to point out that he had recorded a killer version of "One More Shot" pretty quickly after it got released by the Stones...
So yes, like I wrote, it's probably a good thing that these tracks (they have to be part of "Mick's 40 demos") that Keith didn't like don't get released by the Stones, but it's still bound to be viewed as as "distraction" by Keith if/when he gets interviewed before the fall tour and he'll likely have nothing good to say about it. You read it here first ;-)
"...and he (Steve Jordan) verifies that there’s a Keith solo version of “One More Shot.”
“We cut it, and it’s great,” Jordan says. “Again, that sounds weird. What I mean to say is we really had a great time doing it. Keith was looking for a new song to bring in [to the Stones], so he asked me if I minded if he brought it in, and I said, ‘No.’ So he brought it in and they liked it, and they ended up recording it. We gave them our version to listen to. We have a version, it’s done. It has a different flavor, an additional vocal, Meegan [Voss, Jordan’s wife] singing this counterpoint thing. It’s a little different, Keith is playing all of the guitars and the bass. That’s all I can say, I can’t say much more.”
[kearth101.cbslocal.com]
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35love
Hey, I thought this was cool, right after US election a brief word from
Mick, Ronnie, Charlie, Keith
during their Exibitionism sit down talks
[youtu.be]
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keefriffhard4life
model for the video looks nice