Regarding England Lost, nice groove, but not as engaging as Gotta get A Grip. Sounds like Mick wishes Charlie could have played drums on this one.

In Crossfire Hurricane, Mick talks about acting in songs, as each song is a different character -- the Jumping Jack Flash character, the SFTD character, etc.

The character for England Lost reminds me of a Broadway show that closes after the first night.

Firts impression : I like Gotta Get A Grip. And the Kevin Parker remix too.

Not really a fan of songs built around the drum machine track. But well constructed, vocals are good. I wonder if Keith rejected the demos.
England Lost reminds me of 'Living on a Thin Line' by the Kinks, which was a better song and came from a band more identified with England.

England lost? Back to zero part two.

When it comes to the music. But I like a good groove. No problems.

And GRIP? Even cooler groove! Could be a hit...in England...and Sweden! :-D

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That said, Mick's lyrics and his affected Cockney make it sound a bit like a Bill Wyman solo tune.

Haha. Yes, I also thought of Bill's solo career.

England lost doesn't really work for me. I do like the Gotta Get a Grip-groove.

I like gotta get a grip, but ask myself who good would it sound when played by the stones..

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[youtu.be]

Great, thank you! There's 7 videos on this YouTube channel right now:

Gotta Get a Grip (official video)

Gotta Get a Grip (Matt Clifford remix)

Gotta Get a Grip (Seeb Remix)

Gotta Get a Grip (Kevin Parker remix)

Gotta Get a Grip (Alok remix)

England Lost (official video)

England Lost (lyric video feat. Skepta)

Low on views as of now

Gotta Get A Grip reminds me of, err, something, it will come to me later.

I'm speechless., its a mess, a din, a noise, but i like it, like it, yes i do

OK got it, i think it sounds a bit like Substantial damage from CH

I'm glad that so many people seem to like these songs. As much as I love Mick, I'm sorry to say that I can't share this feeling. Anything on Crosseyed Heart sounds to me 1000 times better than either song. Hopefully I might change my mind with additional listenings, but that's my very humble opinion so far.

Mick on Facebook:
"I'm excited to share new music with you! I started writing these two songs a few weeks back and wanted to get them out to you straight away. I feel a slight throwback to a time when you could be a bit more free and easy by recording and putting it out there immediately. Enjoy them. MJ"


"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"

Thanks Deltics ^^^^^

...... and Fanks Mick ... lurv 'em ...



ROCKMAN

So who's playing on these songs, besides Mick?

After one listen, I prefer England Lost.

GGAG - I kept waiting for a chord change...

Goog songs! I like how he involves some harmonica in the songs. Makes me feel quite positive about the new Stones record. I hope for something mostly groove orientated like those two songs, because that's where Keith shines too.

The Glimmers don't seem to be as far away from each other, musically speaking, as we sometimes think. Compare those two songs to Substantial Damage, for example.

england's lost is really good: the groove, the lyrics, the attitude, the vocals: credible
gotta get non so much, shame on keith because that he could have worked on and turn into a very good gritty stones funk, as the Kevin Parker Remix shows. that remix is my fav version of the song though it turns it almost like a whola lotta love rip off.

monkeyman2000: I agree put the fire of subst damage into gotta get and you have a flamboyant funk worth a VG+++ stones record



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Mick on Facebook:
"I'm excited to share new music with you! I started writing these two songs a few weeks back and wanted to get them out to you straight away. I feel a slight throwback to a time when you could be a bit more free and easy by recording and putting it out there immediately. Enjoy them. MJ"

Hmmm...makes me wonder if Mick might try something more modern, like releasing a new song every month or so. I'm kinda digging the new grooves though.

Somebody should have created a Jagger lyric bingo game.

Mention of dirty laundry

Unnecessary expletive

etc.

When he starts listing things in GGAG it sounds like the part in I Go Wild about "checkout girls striking poses, politicians garish wives..." Good tracks, not earth shaking but solid. Like some others, not sure about drum tack use.

Like them on not, I love the fact that he's working at a faster pace again.

"...a few weeks back and wanted to get them out to you straight away. I feel a slight throwback to a time when you could be a bit more free and easy by recording and putting it out there immediately."

That alone is great news IMO.

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On MickJagger.com, the copy claims it is "the debut solo single by Mick Jagger." Apparently this is a different Mick Jagger from the guy who did all those other solo releases. As always, they could actually hire people who know something of the artist's history or are professional enough to ask someone who would know.

I can't go much further on mikjagger.com then the first page with links to facebook Twitter and instagram....

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Mick on Facebook:
"I'm excited to share new music with you! I started writing these two songs a few weeks back and wanted to get them out to you straight away. I feel a slight throwback to a time when you could be a bit more free and easy by recording and putting it out there immediately. Enjoy them. MJ"

Great way of making new songs. Instead of months long production time getting 10-15 songs ready for an album. Just release what is ready, one by one.

By the way great songs.

..just a contractual obligation...???

Mister Jagger surly tries to keep up with the times. I am too old for this. Lyric wise there are some nice lines.



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I certainly don't get the impression at all, that Mick tries to keep up with the times, at least not musically. This is just funk, even with some harmonica. You won't hear something like that on the usual radio.

Now that will.i.am. collaboration, that was more like him trying to keep up and to attract young people...

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I certainly don't get the impression at all, that Mick tries to keep up with the times, at least not musically. This is just funk, even with some harmonica. You won't hear something like that on the usual radio.

Now that will.i.am. collaboration, that was more like him trying to keep up and to attract young people...

Don't know I have not listend to the usual radio (you mean the diarrhea stations?) in years.

Both songs just don't swing, missing a real drummer.

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england's lost is really good: the groove, the lyrics, the attitude, the vocals: credible
gotta get non so much, shame on keith because that he could have worked on and turn into a very good gritty stones funk, as the Kevin Parker Remix shows. that remix is my fav version of the song though it turns it almost like a whola lotta love rip off.

monkeyman2000: I agree put the fire of subst damage into gotta get and you have a flamboyant funk worth a VG+++ stones record

Do you think this might be Mick's revenge on Keith for him rejecting these two tracks.
I don't really understand why Keith would reject Gotta Get A Grip because its similar to the odd Funk number Keith has tried in the past.
Actually how do we know Keith has rejected this, i mean i don't think Keith is at liberty to reject a Mick track on a Stones album, it happens all the time.

This a great day people...
Mick Jagger releases new music and new videos, practically out of the blue.
The day after his birthday.

Embrace it.

This is the new norm in the music business.
Streaming singles. Quick drop videos. Hit and Run marketing.

It doesn't surprise me that Mick Jagger is on-board.

My first impression is that England Lost is the more memorable of the two. It's got a genuinely cool vibe and does a better job of injecting a little social commentary.

Gotta Get A Grip is an okay funk tune but I'd put it in the category of Mick's past songs that were built around a groove that doesn't really go anywhere.

England Lost sounds like a poor attempt at Rain Fall Down, but its pointless, i can't understand why Mick would stick his head out with this, it just goes to show he still has writers block.

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england's lost is really good: the groove, the lyrics, the attitude, the vocals: credible
gotta get non so much, shame on keith because that he could have worked on and turn into a very good gritty stones funk, as the Kevin Parker Remix shows. that remix is my fav version of the song though it turns it almost like a whola lotta love rip off.

monkeyman2000: I agree put the fire of subst damage into gotta get and you have a flamboyant funk worth a VG+++ stones record

Do you think this might be Mick's revenge on Keith for him rejecting these two tracks.
I don't really understand why Keith would reject Gotta Get A Grip because its similar to the odd Funk number Keith has tried in the past.
Actually how do we know Keith has rejected this, i mean i don't think Keith is at liberty to reject a Mick track on a Stones album, it happens all the time.

you're right it was my assumption but actually, if it's true what mick's says that these are very recent ideas, it might not be the case. still I thing GGAG expecially sounds like a "good song for stones" imo