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yorkshirestone
I'm off to Liverpool for uk leg of this Fri night
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RollingFreak
I'm sure it would be good, although admittedly I'd be way more interested in him doing Paris 1919 like he did there a few years ago and I missed it. This, without Lou Reed, seems kinda pointless. Again, still cool and probably good, but in the end too much of that band was Lou that its like when I saw Denny Laine do Band On The Run. Fun but hardly a major deal.
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I'm sure it would be good, although admittedly I'd be way more interested in him doing Paris 1919 like he did there a few years ago and I missed it. This, without Lou Reed, seems kinda pointless. Again, still cool and probably good, but in the end too much of that band was Lou that its like when I saw Denny Laine do Band On The Run. Fun but hardly a major deal.
Interesting comparison, but it's not really a similar situation. What's interesting to me about those first two Velvets albums is that they represent a jumping off point from which Reed and Cale took off in different directions, each pursuing through their solo work a vision of what they each thought the Velvet Underground should have been, if it had been able to continue into the 70s and beyond. They were very much equal partners in the original band, and Cale had an important solo career, whereas Denny Laine was basically just a hired hand, working for someone whose best music was already behind him.
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I guess I'm going all in on this. Just spent $85 on a BAM membership (even though I live 700 miles away) just so I can get early access to the best seats. Looking forward to reading any and all reports from the show in Liverpool tonight.
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Anyone manage to get tickets before the BAM website crashed this morning?
We're experiencing technical issues with BAM.org and our phone system.
Next Wave subscription sales have been suspended while we work to resolve this ASAP, and will message here when fixed. Apologies for the inconvenience.
There was one horror story on their Facebook page this morning written by someone who was about to hit the "buy" button on front row seats for both nights and lost them.
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tatters
Website is up and running again and you can get tickets if you have a BAM membership (minimum membership level is $85). Even then, you have to buy a "subscription" (minimum subscription = 4 shows). My thought was that I would get tix to all 3 Cale dates, and then buy a cheap balcony seat for some 4th show that I had no intention of attending, thus satisfying the requirements of the subscription.
Problem is, the 2 Velvet Underground performances are only counted as one show, an you can only include 1 of them in your subscription. So, long story short, I got decent seats to the VU show on Nov. 17, decent seats to the career-spanning John Cale 75th birthday show on Nov. 18 (I may give those to a friend), and crappy seats to 2 other shows I probably won't even be able to give away.
$480, including the BAM membership I will only ever use just this once .... and I still have to book the hotel.
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RollingFreak
Cale doing it alone, to me, is pretty similar to Denny Laine doing Band On The Run.
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No word on whether or not Moe Tucker will make an appearance, but she makes one here, and it's a tantalizing preview of what we're likely to hear next month in Brooklyn.
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frenki09
It also reminds me of the Pink Floyd one-off a few years back (Live 8). I can count on one hand how many times the camera showed Rick W.
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yorkshirestone
I'm off to Liverpool for uk leg of this Fri night
I'm in Michigan, but will definitely at least try to make it to BAM in November. It's the same venue where I attended two performances of Songs for Drella back in '89.
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frenki09
Does anyone know if there's any recording of these shows or any other performance of Songs for Drella?
In my opinion Songs for Drella is a true masterpiece. A classic album that should be on any list of the best albums of all time.
The only complete live performance of it was released on LD and VHS. Anything else out there?
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It also reminds me of the Pink Floyd one-off a few years back (Live 8). I can count on one hand how many times the camera showed Rick W.
Yeah, that was incredibly annoying at the time. Still bothers me, even moreso cause he died and it was like he was not even there, at least based on the pro-shots. Oh well, at least we know he was but he should have gotten more due.
As for Cale, its still a very cool night and event but I really ain't that interested in seeing him do VU. Maybe others agree with me and thats why its not sold out, when in NY it really should be. I just think without Lou and Sterling you're missing too much, and as good as Moe is and as thankful as I am that she's still alive, she's in her early 70s and looks 90. I don't see her contributing except in a very minimal participation like that video, and even then that means little. But it is cool for those interested. Cale just doesn't seem to have that much of a draw. You announce he's playing all of Paris 1919 that I unfortunately missed at this venue like 5 years ago and I'd be there in a second. Otherwise, I really have no interest in seeing him, even if it is doing VU stuff. But I know I've already said that. Just surprised its not sold out. Maybe not advertised well?
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It also reminds me of the Pink Floyd one-off a few years back (Live 8). I can count on one hand how many times the camera showed Rick W.
Yeah, that was incredibly annoying at the time. Still bothers me, even moreso cause he died and it was like he was not even there, at least based on the pro-shots. Oh well, at least we know he was but he should have gotten more due.
As for Cale, its still a very cool night and event but I really ain't that interested in seeing him do VU. Maybe others agree with me and thats why its not sold out, when in NY it really should be. I just think without Lou and Sterling you're missing too much, and as good as Moe is and as thankful as I am that she's still alive, she's in her early 70s and looks 90. I don't see her contributing except in a very minimal participation like that video, and even then that means little. But it is cool for those interested. Cale just doesn't seem to have that much of a draw. You announce he's playing all of Paris 1919 that I unfortunately missed at this venue like 5 years ago and I'd be there in a second. Otherwise, I really have no interest in seeing him, even if it is doing VU stuff. But I know I've already said that. Just surprised its not sold out. Maybe not advertised well?
The fact that you can hardly see Rick still bothers me too. It's soooo sad. Can you imagine how he felt when he watched the footage?! I am not sure how Wyman felt when he saw the cover of the Rarities compilation where he was digitally removed although he played on many of the tracks. I always wondered why the others went along with this. I would love to see Mick or Charlie confronted with this question. Or Nick Mason confronted with the question why Rick was not in the Live 8 broadcast... If it was not their fault it would have been nice from the other 3 to publicly comment on this.
And about Moe... Yes, she looks soooo old. It was really nice to see her even her contribution was very little. I am not sure why Cale wants to do VU stuff now. I agree that without Sterling and Reed it's a bit strange. Still I am glad he does what he does, because he is still VERY GOOD and focused! Glad the VU reunion happened in the 90's! It must had been amazing to see the 4 of them on stage together!