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Hairball
I don't have much of a problem with any of this dvd except some of the same minor complaints that have already mentioned above.
My only problem is Ronnie's solo in CYHMK...almost complete overkill that lacks a lot subtlety and nuance.
It starts of decent enough, but then turns into a freight train blasting through a field of tulips...he literally shreds the vibe.
Then Karl steps back in and sort of reels Ronnie back in to a listenable groove, but the damage had been done.[/quote
Look you saw Mick Taylor
do it at the LA forum and now you’re ruined for
life. Price you pay.
(Edit, Staples Center, 2013, Midnight Rambler. East Coast got the CYHMK, seen the videos. It was a dumb joke. And Ron Wood kills it here, btw)
;-/
As for ‘documentary’ I barely heard anything from these guys. Ronnie was hilarious sincerely ?’s who IS it on SF cover,
and, well, after Mick unfolded himself into the chair laughing,
I confess I don’t remember what he said after that -
IDK, I am not a video concert viewer, 90% audio only,
so the order not important -
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Hairball
I don't have much of a problem with any of this dvd except some of the same minor complaints that have already mentioned above.
My only problem is Ronnie's solo in CYHMK...almost complete overkill that lacks a lot subtlety and nuance.
It starts of decent enough, but then turns into a freight train blasting through a field of tulips...he literally shreds the vibe.
Then Karl steps back in and sort of reels Ronnie back in to a listenable groove, but the damage had been done.
do it at the LA forum and now you’re ruined for
life. Price you pay.
;-/
As for ‘documentary’ I barely heard anything from these guys. Ronnie was hilarious sincerely ?’s who IS it on SF cover,
and, well, after Mick unfolded himself into the chair laughing,
I confess I don’t remember what he said after that -
IDK, I am not a video concert viewer, 90% audio only,
so the order not important -
Is there a Live Stones album without overdubbed? I think no and I think overdubbed is fine if it does not overthrow the original.Quote
hockenheim95
I think Jumping Jack Flash vocals are overdubbed. Mick seems like he has a problem during the song...
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hockenheim95
I think Jumping Jack Flash vocals are overdubbed. Mick seems like he has a problem during the song...
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bitusa2012
As I had thought, Amazon sent me a CD/DVD package instead of the ordered LP/DVD set.
I asked that they rectify and after to-ing and fro-ing they agreed.
Another CD/DVD set arrived.
After to-ing and fro-ing again they tell me they have refunded all costs to me, I can keep both CD/DVD sets, BUT no LP/DVD set is in stock so they cant fulfill my original order.
There ARE "resellers" available thru Amazon.co.uk, which is where I rodered, but NONE IN Amazon's actual stock.
Bugga
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bitusa2012
As I had thought, Amazon sent me a CD/DVD package instead of the ordered LP/DVD set.
I asked that they rectify and after to-ing and fro-ing they agreed.
Another CD/DVD set arrived.
After to-ing and fro-ing again they tell me they have refunded all costs to me, I can keep both CD/DVD sets, BUT no LP/DVD set is in stock so they cant fulfill my original order.
There ARE "resellers" available thru Amazon.co.uk, which is where I rodered, but NONE IN Amazon's actual stock.
Bugga
are you in the usa? do you have a spare cd/dvd set you would like to sell?
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bitusa2012
As I had thought, Amazon sent me a CD/DVD package instead of the ordered LP/DVD set.
I asked that they rectify and after to-ing and fro-ing they agreed.
Another CD/DVD set arrived.
After to-ing and fro-ing again they tell me they have refunded all costs to me, I can keep both CD/DVD sets, BUT no LP/DVD set is in stock so they cant fulfill my original order.
There ARE "resellers" available thru Amazon.co.uk, which is where I rodered, but NONE IN Amazon's actual stock.
Bugga
are you in the usa? do you have a spare cd/dvd set you would like to sell?
I am in Australia!
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bitusa2012
As I had thought, Amazon sent me a CD/DVD package instead of the ordered LP/DVD set.
I asked that they rectify and after to-ing and fro-ing they agreed.
Another CD/DVD set arrived.
After to-ing and fro-ing again they tell me they have refunded all costs to me, I can keep both CD/DVD sets, BUT no LP/DVD set is in stock so they cant fulfill my original order.
There ARE "resellers" available thru Amazon.co.uk, which is where I rodered, but NONE IN Amazon's actual stock.
Bugga
are you in the usa? do you have a spare cd/dvd set you would like to sell?
I am in Australia!
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Wild Slivovitz
I think it's an excellent release from start to finish. Jagger's performance is very powerful. I also enjoyed the interviews between songs, they make this release stand out from all the other regular concert videos out there.
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hockenheim95
I think Jumping Jack Flash vocals are overdubbed. Mick seems like he has a problem during the song...
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hockenheim95
I think Jumping Jack Flash vocals are overdubbed. Mick seems like he has a problem during the song...
Agreed to that -
However, and only for the sake of "knowing", I'd like to suggest sharing input on possible overdubs for this recording again...
I haven't (and can't either, right now) watched this DVD in close detail; but has anybody else noticed that thing about the lead vocals on JJF too?
Any other moments during the show you got an 'OD*-Alert'?
* 'OD' means overdub...
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slowhand
Is there a general consensus on the best audio version of this show? CD, Blu-ray 2.0 audio or original download?
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RobertJohnson
Great setlist, great moments on stage, yes, but a lousy, muffled sound on CD and download. Inbelievable how bad it sounds.
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Spud
Yep , the vinyl isn't at all bad .
[Better sound on vinyl than many other Vaults releases to be fair.
Some of which are a bit one dimensional and lacking in dynamics ]
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RobertJohnson
Great setlist, great moments on stage, yes, but a lousy, muffled sound on CD and download. Inbelievable how bad it sounds.
That's strange, as the vinyl sounds excellent...
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RobertJohnson
Great setlist, great moments on stage, yes, but a lousy, muffled sound on CD and download. Inbelievable how bad it sounds.
That's strange, as the vinyl sounds excellent...
I've got the DVD/CD-package from Amazon. I heard only the CD so far hoping that the DVD sounds better. And checked the download quality by Apple Music. I concede that it sounds a little better using AirPods.
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RobertJohnson
Great setlist, great moments on stage, yes, but a lousy, muffled sound on CD and download. Inbelievable how bad it sounds.
That's strange, as the vinyl sounds excellent...
I've got the DVD/CD-package from Amazon. I heard only the CD so far hoping that the DVD sounds better. And checked the download quality by Apple Music. I concede that it sounds a little better using AirPods.
What is it exactly that you find bad about the sound?
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RobertJohnson
Great setlist, great moments on stage, yes, but a lousy, muffled sound on CD and download. Inbelievable how bad it sounds.
That's strange, as the vinyl sounds excellent...
I've got the DVD/CD-package from Amazon. I heard only the CD so far hoping that the DVD sounds better. And checked the download quality by Apple Music. I concede that it sounds a little better using AirPods.
What is it exactly that you find bad about the sound?
Particularly the first tracks, the non-Sticky Fingers, are completely muffled, e.g. "Whip" I can't hardly differentiate between Ronnie and Keith. I general the record lacks analytical depth. I don't know exactly to say it in English.
I think the CD mix itself it pretty good but it sounds squashed (->brickwalled) like hell. No transients so if you look at the waveform it's all one big sausage. Not the first time Marcussen ruined a great Mix from clearmountain. Don't have the LP, but I bet that for Vinyl they used the same mix but did a seperate mastering.Quote
DandelionPowdermanHmm, seems weird. They are heavily panned on each side on the vinyl version. Shouldn't really be any reason for selling different mixes here?Quote
RobertJohnson
Particularly the first tracks, the non-Sticky Fingers, are completely muffled, e.g. "Whip" I can't hardly differentiate between Ronnie and Keith. I general the record lacks analytical depth. I don't know exactly to say it in English.
Stephen Marcussen has ruined the CD/Download sound of many recent live releases.. Havana Moon, Totally Stripped, Live at leeds & roundhouse from the SF Super Deluxe and most From The Vault releases. A shame since Bob Clearmountain always does a stellar mixing job. Wish they would let Kevin Gray do it again, he did a great job on Some Girls live in Texas.Quote
hockenheim95
I can't listen to this and Hyde Park because of the mastering. They sound so bad. The Blu Ray versions are great.