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I look forward to seeing this film and refuse to be side stepped by the Mandy Smith period (which considering Bill is now 82 was a very small period of his life).
And for the sake of his family, that social media show some respect.

Let those who are without sin....etc.

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In time I am sure this will get round to The Rolling Stones and other 60's and 70's bands in a more legacy damaging way.

There's plenty to crucify them about and much of it is not exactly hidden.

Regardless...

I love The Rolling Stones.

That's my worry, we are getting to a time where anything deemed incorrect will be censored, i can see a day in the not too distant future where it will be wrong for anyone to play this music based on the morel high ground of the likes of twitter facebook and Instagram.
We already have Mick changing the lyrics on certain songs, i wonder where it all ends up, the Stones are sexist sort of thing so must be censored etc etc.

People need to step up. Once again a small minority of loud lefties run things and decide what others can watch. The right wing needs a spokesman that we all stand behind. Boycott anyone that caters to the left wing mob. That will end this crap.

Now, I am a "leftie" myself, but I always thought right-wing politics could be respectable, democratic, and decent. I think there was a time when it was. But it's interesting to see how, on many places, (i.e., the "social media") a certain group of self-acclaimed "right-wing" people have no problem at all in defending things that any decent person (regardless of being left or right) would criticize. I will not give a long list of examples here, but stick to the matter at hand: a man in his fourties starting a sexual relationship with a 13-year old is a pedofile. I don't care if it's Picasso, Charlie Chaplin or Bill Wyman. It's a sick thing. Defending it or turning a blind eye to it, is simply wrong. And I am hoping - indeed - that all the right-wing people on this world will stand up one day and defend a decent point of view on female rights (and in this case: children's rights), as they should and as they once did.

Now, I know I am bordering over the edge of what's allowed on this forum but I am not the one who started dragging politics into this subject. The subject is - I repeat - not political at all but very simple: is it right for a man in his 40s to get physical with a 13 year old girl? The answer should be obvious.

The modern right will defend ANYTHING as long as they think they're "owning the libs".

Their entire movement has devolved into trolling the left. Conservative principles don't even factor in. It doesn't matter what the subject is...as long as they can provoke an outraged response from the left, they feel they've done their jobs (as evidenced by stanlove's angry and erratic posts here). It's quite pathetic.

So yeah, they'll defend grown men sleeping with young teenagers. Real men just take what they want and damn the consequences, don't you know?

Complete crap. You just made some stuff up to try and make a point. When it comes to your ilk I can never decide if you really don't understand things or you do and just kind of lie. Either way it is not very impressive.

Nowhere have I said it was okay for a grown man to have sex with a 13 year old. But here you are basically accusing me of it.

Bill Wyman has never been charged with a crime and I think it should be up to individual people if they want to see this. That was not allowed because a small group of power hungry loudmouths decided that they should have the power to decide. Nobody is forcing anyone to go see it.

I also noticed that you ignored that this happened many years ago when things were different. Everyone knew at the time what was going on with Wyman and Smith and nobody said anything. That should prove to you that things were different. I saw an old movie the other day where two guys in their 40's were talking about having sex with 15 year old's. It was a different time.

Keithriff99 is right. Spot on.

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Perks has been very open about his sexual affairs. It's all there in "Stone Alone". It's not something he has tried to hide. He seems to be proud about all his numerous sexual encounters.
He counted them like a chartered accountant.He even joked about his marriage with Mandy Smith. No one made any fuzz then.
But now, 30 years later, with the Meetoo movement in full swing it all comes back. There you go.

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Just to set the record straight:

1) for what we all know, Bill Wyman did NOT have sex with Mandy Smith until she was 14

[www.dailymail.co.uk]

2) age of consent varies from country to country. In Italy it is 14. So if I (50 years old) had sex with a 14 years old girl, I would not commit a crime.


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Mandy's Mother dated and then Married Bill's son Steve..
He was under age too...I believe...

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I doubt the me too movement care about men or what they go through in prison for instance.
My mind just went back to the original story about Bill and Mandy, she was allowed to go nightclubs where she met Bill and looked much older than her age, maybe Bill was smitten before he knew her age, still no excuse.

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I doubt the me too movement care about men or what they go through in prison for instance.
My mind just went back to the original story about Bill and Mandy, she was allowed to go nightclubs where she met Bill and looked much older than her age, maybe Bill was smitten before he knew her age, still no excuse.

Wyman's issue falls more in line with that of Elvis's or Jerry Lee Lewis's and a number of other stars who had relations with young girls they later married. Scandalous and perhaps immoral depending on your view, but not the same as the predatory type of individuals who've rightfully lost their careers etc. over it,

As for the movement being unconcerned about male on male abuses, ask Kevin Spacey or Terry Crews and many others, I'm sure they'd disagree.

Lastly, a big FU for your earlier comment that used "libtards" as a slur, which is highly offensive on a few levels.
I am surprised it didn't get you banned as bringing political and low level slurs like that into the threads is prohibited.
Wouldn't advocate for it, as most of your posts are somewhat amusing, but why not keep the conversations civil?

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I doubt the me too movement care about men or what they go through in prison for instance.
My mind just went back to the original story about Bill and Mandy, she was allowed to go nightclubs where she met Bill and looked much older than her age, maybe Bill was smitten before he knew her age, still no excuse.

Wyman's issue falls more in line with that of Elvis's or Jerry Lee Lewis's and a number of other stars who had relations with young girls they later married. Scandalous and perhaps immoral depending on your view, but not the same as the predatory type of individuals who've rightfully lost their careers etc. over it,

As for the movement being unconcerned about male on male abuses, ask Kevin Spacey or Terry Crews and many others, I'm sure they'd disagree.

Lastly, a big FU for your earlier comment that used "libtards" as a slur, which is highly offensive on a few levels.
I am surprised it didn't get you banned as bringing political and low level slurs like that into the threads is prohibited.
Wouldn't advocate for it, as most of your posts are somewhat amusing, but why not keep the conversations civil?

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If the 'METOO' movement want to do something useful why don't they look into human trafficking and try to do something towards stopping misery of epidemic proportions.

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Mandy's Mother dated and then Married Bill's son Steve..
He was under age too...I believe...

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The MeToo movement stands against sexual harassment and sexual assault.

Mandy Smith never made a statement agains Bill AFAIK.
Her mother never filed against Bill.


Bill has not been proven guilty of anything and has not even been judged?
Even if people understandably disagree with what he did in thoses days, I do not understand why his name could be associated to the #metoo movement.

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Perks has been very open about his sexual affairs. It's all there in "Stone Alone". It's not something he has tried to hide. He seems to be proud about all his numerous sexual encounters.
He counted them like a chartered accountant.He even joked about his marriage with Mandy Smith. No one made any fuzz then.
But now, 30 years later, with the Meetoo movement in full swing it all comes back. There you go.

I haven't read Stone Alone for a long time but I don't recall Mandy being mentioned.
I thought the book 'ended'in 1969?

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Is there a confusion (conflation?) of movements/campaigns here?

Doesn't "metoo" refer to unwanted sexual harassment in (usually) the work place and quasi-social situations?

The problem(s) he had/has were not of that nature.

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Is there a confusion (conflation?) of movements/campaigns here?

Doesn't "metoo" refer to unwanted sexual harassment in (usually) the work place and quasi-social situations?

The problem(s) he had/has were not of that nature.

You're right. I'll change it.

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Is there a confusion (conflation?) of movements/campaigns here?

Doesn't "metoo" refer to unwanted sexual harassment in (usually) the work place and quasi-social situations?

The problem(s) he had/has were not of that nature.

You're right. I'll change it.

How may I edit the topic?

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I have no idea how to parse that last post.

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I have no idea how to parse that last post.

I'm just pulling your leg mate.
Not sure how to change a title thread as i never start threads, sorry i can't help you, i wouldn't worry about it, it's kept us all busy and BV has been kind enough to let it run.