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JJHMick
Regarding that money issue:
Bill stated in an interview for a German magazine that Mick Taylor wanted be paid out when he left. And he sure must have received a lot of money!
Bill also said (quote) "I was cleverer than Mick" and more furture conscious and only left the band as a musician and a shareholder.
So, whenever f.e. Angie is played on the radio Mick J and Keith get the composer's and the artist's fare and Charlie AND Bill the artist's fare. Wasn't Marianne Faithfull saying something like I lived on the sales of Sticky Fingers (thus including her lyrics for Sister Morphine) for years?!
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MisterDDDD
Mick was all cavalier b.s. to paraphrase; 'oh it's not like that's a hard instrument; i could play bass anybody could play bass; it's not like playing bass in the Stones is a hard job'
and other such distracting nonsensical posturing, knowing at heart he had somehow cut a huge whole out of the essence of that band.
I remember that! Although according to Bill, Mick Jagger did in fact lobby him pretty hard personally to stay, so there's that...
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SweetThing.yes I'm sure he did when it was too late he was quick to the photoshopper however.Quote
hopkinsyes so when meant most needed his famed business Acumen and prowess...when it really counted most and directly affected the absolutecredibility, impact and power of his own Miracle creation... He was asleep at the wheel. He couldn't negotiate it. He created and unfriendly in personal and environment with his most rooted and Miracle Rhythm Section. Oops sorry I'm messing up this post..using sketchy mobile.Will fix when home. Summer disabilities challenges...minor but aggravating injury last week....Please excuse for now........Quote
MisterDDDD
Mick was all cavalier b.s. to paraphrase; 'oh it's not like that's a hard instrument; i could play bass anybody could play bass; it's not like playing bass in the Stones is a hard job'
and other such distracting nonsensical posturing, knowing at heart he had somehow cut a huge whole out of the essence of that band.
I remember that! Although according to Bill, Mick Jagger did in fact lobby him pretty hard personally to stay, so there's that...
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TheflyingDutchman
I always thought Taylor was the quiet one. Not on stage of course.
Exactly. I always thought of (& heared reference to) MT as 'the quiet one ';
Bill was (the) 'stone-face(-d)'.
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MisterDDDD
Bill definitely was the quiet one.
But both share the unbelievably poor $$ decision to quit the band right before they got into big (& bigger) money..
Bill claims to not have a regret about retiring from The Stones. I think he stayed quite a bit longer than he had wanted to frankly.
Well at least he has said as much. I believe him;
Taylor wanted out too; he thinks, or has said that he thinks getting out of there might have saved his actual very life.
I think Bill, in most every significant, important and indelible way, will NEVER really 'leave' The Rolling Stones.
A foundational member bringing that kind of original unique presence that defined this very band, as much as the other members, minimally.
He made 20 out of their 24 albums. The four he missed were not definitional Rolling Stones albums, tho there are some tracks I do honestly love since he's gone. Not a whole hell of a lot of them though. And nothing that would not have been better had he been there....imfo.
Somehow I don't see Bill, saying to himself
"God what was I thinking!!!?? I could have done Bridges to Babylon!!!"
I think HE thinks that 25 or 30 or so years was quite enough.
He was on that big SW tour; he knew there would be big bucks spectacle and loads of cash to stay. It didn't come as a regretful shock.
He made history. He IS a fascinating and deeply essential part OF rock and roll.
He brought his OWN style; even his own stance.Certainly his personality and presence, He's imo always been pretty honest and up front when asked most anything about them; so I think a docu with more intensive interviews and such would be fascinating historical document, or could be....
The Glims were just too detached and entitled and arrogant to really understand the big hole that Bill would leave....Keith realized it when it was finally going down and pretty much begged, past cajoling but Bill was on the way out.
Mick was all cavalier b.s. to paraphrase; 'oh it's not like that's a hard instrument; i could play bass anybody could play bass; it's not like playing bass in the Stones is a hard job'
and other such distracting nonsensical posturing, knowing at heart he had somehow cut a huge whole out of the essence of that band.
Keith was miserable when it sunk it what had happened when Bill was actually finally out; he was not coming back...
they were working him; thinking he'd stay; he'd always been there. He wasn't window dressing; he was driving that train....
To understand how great Bill is in one easy step; think of the dynamic classic Keith bass guitar that drives the studio sftd,
one of the greatest most important and perfect studio cuts of all time in rock and roll....
...now listen to Bill do sftd on ya yas.
Case closed.
Bill owns that spot. Bill is the once, future and always bass player for The Rolling Stones, no matta what they tell ya or sell ya...
Love to see Bill's docu; I am so happy I saw him with them several times.
I've never seen them without him and am not likely to actually...
Almost every important essential thing they did, they did when Bill was a full on Rolling Stone...
I do not think he regrets leaving and i do not think he is hurting for cash or comfort.
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runrudolph
I think that says it all.
Noor
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runrudolph
i think Bill really , with Charlie, makes/ made the organic sound for the Stones.
forget about Micks Voice, Keef n Ronnies/Mick/Brian guitars, Ians piano.
When Bill left, the Swagger left. The rough, the sex , the dirt left.
Ofcourse, after WW 3, after the DW album , everything changed.
with Steel Wheels, the Las Vegas Period started.
The Anger, the Darkness went.
Keef n Mick lost their flow, their inspiration.
But when Bill left, everything left..
the band has never been the same since Bill left
Still Love them to bits. love the band.
Seen them 38 times since 1976.
But..
the waiting is for Keef's Talk is cheap, deluxe.
I think that says it all.
Noor
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runrudolph
I think that says it all.
Noor
You don't have to answer, Jeroen, but how did you change all your posts to runrudolph and why are you now signing your name as Noor? If it's personal, I'll happily delete this question, but this is one of the more fascinating things to have happened around here since something that is probably unmentionable.
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Rocky Dijon
Well, Jeroen, I think that's a first where an iorrian was able to change a username instead of simply creating a new identity and starting over so congratulations on blazing a trail.
I am very sorry about your Noor. My dog and our cats mean more to me than just about anyone I'll ever know. They are family in the truest sense of the word. I initially thought you were signing off as Noor Alfallah which seemed interesting to say the least.
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Cristiano Radtke
Bill conducted a Q&A at the Worldwebforum 2019 in Zürich today. According to their website, Bill is currently promoting his current project, “The Quiet One”.
[www.instagram.com]
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Elmo Lewis
With Bill, great rock and roll band
Without him, great rock band
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Cristiano Radtke
Bill conducted a Q&A at the Worldwebforum 2019 in Zürich today. According to their website, Bill is currently promoting his current project, “The Quiet One”.
[www.instagram.com]
Still leering at chicks in the crowd!