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Re: Goat's Head Soup opinions
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: March 4, 2019 18:13

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Re: Goat's Head Soup opinions
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: March 4, 2019 18:14


                       
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Re: Goat's Head Soup opinions
Posted by: loog droog ()
Date: March 4, 2019 18:24

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Toru A
freshly excavated.




Interesting to see Paul Rodgers talking to Charlie. Was Free recording in Jamaica that year?

Re: Goat's Head Soup opinions
Posted by: Toru A ()
Date: March 5, 2019 00:58

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loog droog
Interesting to see Paul Rodgers talking to Charlie. Was Free recording in Jamaica that year?

Paul Rodgers and Simon Kirke were staying there for the recording.

Re: Goat's Head Soup opinions
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: March 6, 2019 03:06




Re: Goat's Head Soup opinions
Posted by: TravelinMan ()
Date: March 6, 2019 07:15

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Toru A
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loog droog
Interesting to see Paul Rodgers talking to Charlie. Was Free recording in Jamaica that year?

Paul Rodgers and Simon Kirke were staying there for the recording.

Wasn’t Bad Company trying to recruit Mick Taylor around this time?

I wish he would have taken that gig.

Re: Goat's Head Soup opinions
Posted by: Toru A ()
Date: March 6, 2019 12:24

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TravelinMan
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Toru A
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loog droog
Interesting to see Paul Rodgers talking to Charlie. Was Free recording in Jamaica that year?

Paul Rodgers and Simon Kirke were staying there for the recording.

Wasn’t Bad Company trying to recruit Mick Taylor around this time?

I wish he would have taken that gig.

According to the article, Charlie excused in the middle of the interview because he had to talk with Paul and Simon.

I Just Wanna See You Smile - Paul Rodgers - 1972 in Jamaica
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Re: Goat's Head Soup opinions
Posted by: boogaloojef ()
Date: March 6, 2019 19:58

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TravelinMan
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Toru A
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loog droog
Interesting to see Paul Rodgers talking to Charlie. Was Free recording in Jamaica that year?

Paul Rodgers and Simon Kirke were staying there for the recording.

Wasn’t Bad Company trying to recruit Mick Taylor around this time?

I wish he would have taken that gig.

Rodgers and Kirke supposedly called Taylor to tour with Free after Paul Kossoff's health worsened and he was unable and but Taylor declined. Free had to use Wendell Richardson instead.

Re: Goat's Head Soup opinions
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: March 9, 2019 02:12


Jamaica 1972



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Re: Goat's Head Soup opinions
Posted by: Toru A ()
Date: March 9, 2019 14:40



Carly Simon holding Stones in Jamaica.

Re: Goat's Head Soup opinions
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: March 16, 2019 12:37

Mr. D makes it to the new Stones Best OF compilation "HONK":

Tracklist:

LP 1:

1. Start Me Up - Tattoo You, 1981
2. Brown Sugar - Sticky Fingers, 1971
3. Rocks Off - Exile on Main St., 1972
4. Miss You - Some Girls, 1978
5. Tumbling Dice - Exile on Main St., 1972
6. Just Your Fool - Blue & Lonesome, 2016

1. Wild Horses - Sticky Fingers, 1971
2. Fool To Cry - Black and Blue, 1976
3. Angie - Goats Head Soup, 1973
4. Beast of Burden - Some Girls, 1978
5. Hot Stuff - Black and Blue, 1976
6. Its Only Rock 'n' Roll (But I Like It) - It's Only Rock 'n Roll, 1974

LP 2:

1. Rock And A Hard Place - Steel Wheels, 1989
2. Doom And Gloom - Grrr…, 2012
3. Love Is Strong - Voodoo Lounge, 1994
4. Mixed Emotions - Steel Wheels, 1989
5. Don't Stop - Forty Licks, 2002
6. Ride 'Em on Down - Blue & Lonesome, 2016

1. Bitch - Sticky Fingers, 1971
2. Harlem Shuffle - Dirty Work, 1986
3. Hate to See You Go - Blue & Lonesome, 2016
4. Rough Justice - A Bigger Bang, 2005
5. Happy - Exile on Main St., 1972
6. Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker) - Goats Head Soup, 1973
7. One More Shot - Grrr…, 2012

LP 3:

1. Respectable - Some Girls, 1978
2. You Got Me Rocking - Voodoo Lounge, 1994
3. Rain Fall Down - A Bigger Bang, 2005
4. Dancing With Mr. D - Goats Head Soup, 1973
5. Undercover (of the Night) - Undercover, 1983
6. Emotional Rescue - Emotional Rescue, 1980

1. Waiting On A Friend - Tattoo You, 1981
2. Saint Of Me - Bridges To Babylon , 1997
3. Out of Control - Bridges To Babylon , 1997
4. Streets of Love - A Bigger Bang, 2005
5. Out Of Tears - Voodoo Lounge, 1994

LP 4:

1. Get Off My Cloud (Live at Principality Stadium 06/15/18), Unreleased
2. Dancing With Mr. D (Live at Gelredome, Arnhem 10.15.17), Unreleased
3. Beast of Burden (Live at Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas 06.27.15) [feat Ed Sheeran], Unreleased
4. She's A Rainbow (Live at U Arena, Paris 10.25.17), Unreleased
5. Wild Horses (Live at London Stadium 05/22/18) [feat Florence Welch], Unreleased

6. Let's Spend The Night Together (Live at Manchester Evening News Arena 05.06.18), Unreleased
7. Dead Flowers (Live at Wells Fargo Center, Philadelphia 06.18.13) [feat Brad Paisley], Unreleased
8. Shine A Light (Live at ArenA, Amsterdam 09.30.17), Unreleased
9. Under My Thumb (Live at London Stadium 05.22.18), Unreleased
10. Bitch (Live at The Honda Center, Anaheim 05.18.13) [feat Dave Grohl], Unreleased



[therollingstonesshop.com]




Re: Goat's Head Soup opinions
Posted by: Toru A ()
Date: March 17, 2019 04:31



Re: Goat's Head Soup opinions
Posted by: hopkins ()
Date: March 17, 2019 05:15

This from wiki, a hit and miss site
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"Critical reaction to the album was varied at the time. Bud Scoppa called the album "one of the year's richest musical experiences"[3][22] in Rolling Stone, while Lester Bangs derided the effort in Creem, saying, "There is a sadness about the Stones now, because they amount to such an enormous 'So what?' The sadness comes when you measure not just one album, but the whole sense they're putting across now against what they once meant..."[3]

Goats Head Soup is now generally considered to have marked the end of the Stones' "golden age", with Stephen Thomas Erlewine saying, "Sliding out of perhaps the greatest winning streak in rock history, the Stones slipped into decadence and rock star excess with Goats Head Soup... This is where the Stones' image began to eclipse their accomplishments, as Mick ascended to jet-setting celebrity and Keith slowly sunk deeper into addiction, and it's possible hearing them moving in both directions on Goats Head Soup, at times in the same song."[23] '"
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I always enjoy hearing from Lester RIP;
he's always entertaining and shooting his mouth off with such passion.
i'm of course not near always agreed but i dig his input.

my faves are silver train and star star.
i love Angie but you know; I've heard it a bit too many times.
It's super though, imo. a triumph of sort to me; even tho i like the hard blues boogie best;
some of Keith's best lyrics IMO.

can't say enough about 'silver train.'
Tho many consider it filler, i do not.
that's the Key number for me here.

i'll avoid making the grand statements of assessment cuz i don't really know which era someone joins in
and has a very deep experience with this band.

'100 years ago' is nice;
i also like 'star star' a lot and don't subscribe to other fans here I respect,
who think it more color by numbers stones. when they rock it out, i'm in. period.


that being said, i'm Not into 'heartbreaker'--
i was when it first came out tho.
it didn't hold on me; a lot of their super early stuff still does but this didn't. personally speaking.

coming down again is super, Winter a Mick Taylor epic beauty.
kleermaker put an extended version on You tube i adore. ty.

not much into the rest of it.
the lead number has groove but it was a letdown for me when i got the record,
and never was one of my faves to this day.
'Soup' is not a 'golden era' that preceded it,
imo; and many others feel that way i guess.

i like several on IORR LP too.
that's another day; but those two did seem to have the same relative 'hit or miss' ratio track to track generally.
my opinions and feelings about certain of their stuff HAS changed and evolved over time,
but usually my first instincts, for me anyway,
hold true as far as the dedication with which I'll approach an album.

Re: Goat's Head Soup opinions
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: March 17, 2019 17:01

WOW! Thanks, Toru A! You are 'the man' when it comes to 1973 Jamaica shots and thanks for kindly sharing them with us. I never knew these existed. You are 'blowing my mind.'

Re: Goat's Head Soup opinions
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: March 18, 2019 00:56

I think Mick and Keith have a bit of love for GHS. Aside from the obvious success of Angie making every comp except SUCKING IN THE SEVENTIES (or any other GHS track), it's had pretty good representation on some hits comps.

MADE IN THE SHADE and REWIND (US) - ... Heartbreaker
TIME WAITS FOR NO ONE - ... Dancing With Mr D, Star Star

Re: Goat's Head Soup opinions
Posted by: Toru A ()
Date: March 18, 2019 10:28

According to the report:
When we entered Dynamic Studio at 9:00 pm on December 9, they just started rehearsing along with Mick's guide vocal recorded on a big tape recorder.
I felt his vocal on the tape was like another person's.
The song was a Chuck Berry type rock 'n' roll.



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Re: Goat's Head Soup opinions
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: March 18, 2019 12:36

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Toru A

The song was a Chuck Berry type rock 'n' roll.

Star Star?

Re: Goat's Head Soup opinions
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: March 18, 2019 20:53

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dcba
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Toru A

The song was a Chuck Berry type rock 'n' roll.

Star Star?

Star Star may be Chuck Berry type rock 'n' roll, but it has this Stones at their best stamp all over it. Incredible dynamics, listen to how the song develops from an almost tentative start to an almost maniac ending (for example, no bass guitar at the start - ok, they used this trick already on Honky Tonk Women, but this is so effective!) and compare this to a rather flat because "in your face" from start to finish Rough Justice.



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Re: GHS Stones Most Biggest Letdown?
Posted by: The Joker ()
Date: March 18, 2019 23:35

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tioms
And what's wrong with " HOT STUFF"? Diana Ross called it a very good song.
Remember the disco at that time.

Maybe she was talking about her own " HOT STUFF"
smoking smiley

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Re: Goat's Head Soup opinions
Posted by: 35love ()
Date: March 18, 2019 23:46

Lester Bangs derided the effort in Creem, saying, "There is a sadness about the Stones now, because they amount to such an enormous 'So what?' The sadness comes when you measure not just one album, but the whole sense they're putting across now against what they once meant..."[3]
(copied)

45 years later same thing who woulda thunk it!


‘Will It Go Round in Circles’
Song by Billy Preston
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Re: GHS Stones Most Biggest Letdown?
Posted by: Deltics ()
Date: March 18, 2019 23:53

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The Joker
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tioms
And what's wrong with " HOT STUFF"? Diana Ross called it a very good song.
Remember the disco at that time.

Maybe she was talking about her own " HOT STUFF"
smoking smiley

[www.youtube.com]

That's Donna Summer not Diana Ross!


"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"

Re: Goat's Head Soup opinions
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: March 19, 2019 03:15

For me, there are just a few Stones albums that get better over time that aren't The Big Four or The Big Six.

GHS is one of them. Love it more and more every year.

Re: Goat's Head Soup opinions
Posted by: hopkins ()
Date: March 19, 2019 05:27

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retired_dog
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dcba
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Toru A

The song was a Chuck Berry type rock 'n' roll.

Star Star?

Star Star may be Chuck Berry type rock 'n' roll, but it has this Stones at their best stamp all over it. Incredible dynamics, listen to how the song develops from an almost tentative start to an almost maniac ending (for example, no bass guitar at the start - ok, they used this trick already on Honky Tonk Women, but this is so effective!) and compare this to a rather flat because "in your face" from start to finish Rough Justice.

cool observation wonderfully stated imo.

Re: Goat's Head Soup opinions
Date: March 19, 2019 07:07

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retired_dog
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dcba
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Toru A

The song was a Chuck Berry type rock 'n' roll.

Star Star?

Star Star may be Chuck Berry type rock 'n' roll, but it has this Stones at their best stamp all over it. Incredible dynamics, listen to how the song develops from an almost tentative start to an almost maniac ending (for example, no bass guitar at the start - ok, they used this trick already on Honky Tonk Women, but this is so effective!) and compare this to a rather flat because "in your face" from start to finish Rough Justice.

Yes that is one of my favorite Stones secret sauce happenings. Keith likes to use that no Bass at first trick. It ADDS such a boost when the Bass does arrive. Ronnie also used it but not as well. Im trying to think of the songs; somewhere on '1234' album, and also in "Ain't Rockn Roll" - he takes the Bass out for a weird solo section, and then brings it back in with a bang.
Very good point from the Dog comparing "Rough Justice" to @#$%&' and how it doesn't compare well.

Re: Goat's Head Soup opinions
Posted by: steffiestones ()
Date: March 19, 2019 09:22

What about - Winter !! surely one of the greatest Ballads

Re: GHS Stones Most Biggest Letdown?
Posted by: The Joker ()
Date: March 19, 2019 18:25

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Deltics
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The Joker
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tioms
And what's wrong with " HOT STUFF"? Diana Ross called it a very good song.
Remember the disco at that time.

Maybe she was talking about her own " HOT STUFF"
smoking smiley

[www.youtube.com]

That's Donna Summer not Diana Ross!

My bad. Deltics, I dedicated this song to you.

[www.youtube.com]

Re: Goat's Head Soup opinions
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: April 29, 2019 20:00


Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones at a press conference
to promote their album 'Goats Head Soup' in a restaurant
in Munich, Germany in September 1973.


Photo by Gijsbert Hanekroot

Re: Goat's Head Soup opinions
Posted by: duke richardson ()
Date: April 29, 2019 20:44

its a very diverse album..

should be considered a 'near-great' probably..

just for 'Coming Down Again' its a reflection of maturity and experimentation..

that photo of Keith... 'this shit is about to get on my nerves..'
cool smiley

Re: Goat's Head Soup opinions
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: May 1, 2019 13:21


THE ROLLING STONES
magazine advertisements from 1973 and 1974 for the LP
GOATS HEAD SOUP
from Japan!


On offer are two pieces of memorabilia for THE ROLLING STONES.

One is a full-page advert from 1973 to promote the album GOATS HEAD SOUP on vinyl and cassette;
the other, from 1974, was for the cassette and 8-track cartridge versions of the album, as well
as for albums by Neil Young, Carly Simon, and James Taylor, among others. The cassette/8-track ad
is printed on newspaper-like paper and there is a light bend mark on the top right.

The size of each page is about B5 (10-1/8" x 7-1/8" approx.).

Re: Goat's Head Soup opinions
Date: May 1, 2019 15:06

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GasLightStreet
I think Mick and Keith have a bit of love for GHS. Aside from the obvious success of Angie making every comp except SUCKING IN THE SEVENTIES (or any other GHS track), it's had pretty good representation on some hits comps.

MADE IN THE SHADE and REWIND (US) - ... Heartbreaker
TIME WAITS FOR NO ONE - ... Dancing With Mr D, Star Star

Isn't Angie on Rewind?

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