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The '2 went from being the coolest band there was; here in 87 everyone either had Joshua Tree or was saving to purchase it; to the perceived lamest act around these days. Not sure exactly how that happened. From 87 to 93 really and the incredible Zoo TV era they really were sh*t hot. Zoo TV was the live show all of their peers even mythologised at the time.

Bono has a lot to do with their perception today; the very conservative output 2000 to present day obviously knocked them a bit also. The U2 of the millenium is as safe as you can get; the edge completely eradicated from their music - pun intended.

I think it all ended after MacPisstoe appeared on the stage. They never recovered from that costume change or something. Coincidence?

Have to agree that they were amazing for a spell. I saw the Joshua Tree, Zoo TV and Pop tours and then again when "Elevation" was the hit.

Zoo TV was an absolutely mind-bending concert. While they are all earnest as hell, and Bono has become the mouthpiece of earnestness, they could rock (though they cannot be accused of having any roll at all).

They really haven't done anything to capture the magic since that peak period, but that run of War, Unforgettable Fire, Joshua Tree, and Achtung Baby are as good as any four records by most any band. (I'm omitting the turd of Rattle and Hum before the reinvention, of course).

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Have to agree that they were amazing for a spell. I saw the Joshua Tree, Zoo TV and Pop tours and then again when "Elevation" was the hit.

Zoo TV was an absolutely mind-bending concert. While they are all earnest as hell, and Bono has become the mouthpiece of earnestness, they could rock (though they cannot be accused of having any roll at all).

They really haven't done anything to capture the magic since that peak period, but that run of War, Unforgettable Fire, Joshua Tree, and Achtung Baby are as good as any four records by most any band. (I'm omitting the turd of Rattle and Hum before the reinvention, of course).

T@3

I'd add POP, and then 'All that you cant leave' as kind of a recap to that string. And also in omitting that dreadful Rattle & Hum album

As long as Apple does not spam it into people's iTunes accounts they can do whatever they want.

What on earth was wrong with Rattle and Hum? It was just an extension of the Joshua Tree era and tour.. There's a lot if great stuff on there! And the film was a lot of fun back in the day. I loved the MacPhisto gag, and loved the 'Pop' album... I feel each album has gotten somewhat weaker since, but I still enjoy what they produce. It's hard to be a creative force for so many years. Nothing they've done is crap, in my opinion, but it's been a while since I've been really taken by a U2 album. The live show is still a special experience and worth a go every time.

RATTLE AND HUM was just something to capitalize on the JOSHUA TREE tour. Sure it has some good tunes on it but it's just not very good, it's scattered. It made sense at the time but it hasn't aged well: why would anyone want to listen to Helter Skelter or All Along The Watchtower?

They were lost in their ignorance but more so their own myth and stardom - and believing it. Perhaps not a difficult thing to have happen considering the success of THE JOSHUA TREE and their bigger status as a live act with demand. ACHTUNG BABY and ZOO TV (and ZOOROPA) brought forth a different kind of seriousness - one that wasn't so much about itself but outside of themselves with a different sound and purposely ridiculous and funny lyrics (as well as serious and perhaps deep lyrics without the pomposity of previous albums) that were pretty good. They took that too far with POP, which is why there was the Coke Classic element of The Sweetest Thing and ALL THAT YOU CAN'T LEAVE BEHIND being so good.


Rattle and Hum is by far the least-focused record U2 ever made, and it's little wonder that they retreated for three years after its release to rethink their whole approach.

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RATTLE AND HUM was just something to capitalize on the JOSHUA TREE tour. Sure it has some good tunes on it but it's just not very good, it's scattered. It made sense at the time but it hasn't aged well: why would anyone want to listen to Helter Skelter or All Along The Watchtower?

"Anybody ever heard of a group called 'U2'? [no reaction from the crowd] Well, it don't matter. Anyway, they recorded this song ... but they recorded it with THE WRONG WORDS. Here are the CORRECT words."

Bob Dylan before "All Along the Watchtower", Evanston, November 4, 1991

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U2 has tried to be innovative throughout the years. Sometimes they failed (in my opinion). But if they're saying "special shows" I'm inclined to believe they're going to pull off something great, maybe club shows, special tickets, full album gigs or whatever they can come up with. I'm excited to see what's going to happen.

Trump inauguration ceremony show in January....

Remember, Bono was on very good condition with Bush, etc.

Bono worked with the Bush Administration on funding HIV prevention and treatment in Africa. Bono said that he withheld criticism of the Bush Administration (on the Iraq war, for instance) in an effort to curry favor with them on Africa aid.

In fact, most experts say that increased and effective aid to Africa was one of the few genuine bright spots on Bush's legacy.

Trying to work with the current President-elect on ANY issue that helps people anywhere on the planet will be a futile effort.

U2 became huge in Italy with Sunday Bloody Sunday. I was a teen then. In public I had to hate them (it was cool to bash U2 even back then), but after the first Live Aid concert I had to admit to my self that the band had something.

First record I bought was Joshua Tree. Still regard it as a masterpiece.

I also bought Rattle and Hum, and for some time loved it. But it didn't age well.

I hated Achtung Baby at first, seemed a rehash of Bowie's Heroes. But this one aged well and eventually my appreciation for it grew a lot.

Nothing ever since really interested me. Saw them once live, and wasn't impressed.

C

U2 just ain't no absurd "Greatest Hits at Horrible Prices"-thing yet. But this will change probably if they carrying on 15 more years.

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U2 has tried to be innovative throughout the years. Sometimes they failed (in my opinion). But if they're saying "special shows" I'm inclined to believe they're going to pull off something great, maybe club shows, special tickets, full album gigs or whatever they can come up with. I'm excited to see what's going to happen.

Trump inauguration ceremony show in January....

Remember, Bono was on very good condition with Bush, etc.

Bono worked with the Bush Administration on funding HIV prevention and treatment in Africa. Bono said that he withheld criticism of the Bush Administration (on the Iraq war, for instance) in an effort to curry favor with them on Africa aid.

In fact, most experts say that increased and effective aid to Africa was one of the few genuine bright spots on Bush's legacy.

Trying to work with the current President-elect on ANY issue that helps people anywhere on the planet will be a futile effort.

Bono will do it, great photo op.

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U2 has tried to be innovative throughout the years. Sometimes they failed (in my opinion). But if they're saying "special shows" I'm inclined to believe they're going to pull off something great, maybe club shows, special tickets, full album gigs or whatever they can come up with. I'm excited to see what's going to happen.

Trump inauguration ceremony show in January....

Remember, Bono was on very good condition with Bush, etc.

Bono worked with the Bush Administration on funding HIV prevention and treatment in Africa. Bono said that he withheld criticism of the Bush Administration (on the Iraq war, for instance) in an effort to curry favor with them on Africa aid.

In fact, most experts say that increased and effective aid to Africa was one of the few genuine bright spots on Bush's legacy.

Trying to work with the current President-elect on ANY issue that helps people anywhere on the planet will be a futile effort.

Bono will do it, great photo op.

I can hear him now..."Can't we all just get along...it's a small world after all...love the one your with...imagine all the people...give peace a chance..."

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What on earth was wrong with Rattle and Hum? It was just an extension of the Joshua Tree era and tour.. There's a lot if great stuff on there! And the film was a lot of fun back in the day. I loved the MacPhisto gag, and loved the 'Pop' album... I feel each album has gotten somewhat weaker since, but I still enjoy what they produce. It's hard to be a creative force for so many years. Nothing they've done is crap, in my opinion, but it's been a while since I've been really taken by a U2 album. The live show is still a special experience and worth a go every time.

It's got some great things on it, but it's all over the place and lacks coherency. I like some of it, though I would say it's the album from that period that I play the least.

I tell you what. I take back my calling it "a turd," as that is unfair. I was just trying to separate it from what was an otherwise strong set of records.

In truth, any fan would much rather have Rattle and Hum than NOT have Rattle and Hum. Just like I would rather have all the songs on Voodoo Lounge and Bridges than have a "better" 10 song album replace each.

T@3

U2 ain't got that swing and can't even boogie or roll with their own rock.

Lyrics were interesting for a while (1980-1991 or so), but many a people wrote better books about life.

It dawned on me that after In Gods Country from '87 (their last decent tune imo), the title track from the soundtrack of the movie In the Name of the Father is a pretty good tune.
Technically not a U2 song ( a Bono/Gavin Friday collaboration), and probably not something I'd listen to on it's own, but it works well during the tense opening scenes of that great movie.
Truth be told, I've only listened to it while watching the movie....until now. Decent atmospheric tune, but just makes me want to see the movie again.
For the most part, the entire soundtrack is good with Hendrix, Dylan, and Thin Lizzy among others.

Bono & Gavin Friday - In The Name Of The Father (1993)




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U2 has tried to be innovative throughout the years. Sometimes they failed (in my opinion). But if they're saying "special shows" I'm inclined to believe they're going to pull off something great, maybe club shows, special tickets, full album gigs or whatever they can come up with. I'm excited to see what's going to happen.

Trump inauguration ceremony show in January....

Remember, Bono was on very good condition with Bush, etc.

Bono worked with the Bush Administration on funding HIV prevention and treatment in Africa. Bono said that he withheld criticism of the Bush Administration (on the Iraq war, for instance) in an effort to curry favor with them on Africa aid.

In fact, most experts say that increased and effective aid to Africa was one of the few genuine bright spots on Bush's legacy.

Trying to work with the current President-elect on ANY issue that helps people anywhere on the planet will be a futile effort.

I think Elton John had some very nice things to say about Bush as well on this subject. Not everything is black and white, you don't have to like or hate everything about anyone to agree or disagree on certain points. Give credit where credit is due; and criticism as well.

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U2 just ain't no absurd "Greatest Hits at Horrible Prices" - thing yet. But this will change probably if they carrying on 15 more years.

Great name for a tour ........

Apologies if repeating: U2 play Twickenham UK Jul 8

July 29, Amsterdam arena. Would like to go..am afraid it will interfere with the Stones gigs.
Jeroen

May 12 in Seattle. I'm going. Unfortunately, Mumford & Son are opening. I can see a late arrival for this one!

wow that is a really long tour, I caught it in 1987



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Hi sorry to bother you has anyone got the prices for London. I really enjoyed seeing them and their tickets are very good value for money><

OK now, could the Stones please announce their own tour dates ASAP?

I am sure many of us would like to see both bands and we need to know which city to be in and when.

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OK now, could the Stones please announce their own tour dates ASAP?

I am sure many of us would like to see both bands and we need to know which city to be in and when.

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Here are all data, if not posted before:

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sjouke

Sat Jul 8 London UK Twickenham Stadium
Wed Jul 12 Berlin DE Olympic Stadium
Sat Jul 15 Rome IT Olympic Stadium
Tue Jul 18 Barcelona ES Olympic Stadium
Sat Jul 22 Dublin IE Croke Park
Tue Jul 25 Paris FR Stade De France
Sat Jul 29 Amsterdam NL Amsterdam Arena
Tue Aug 1 Brussels BE Stade Roi-Baudoin

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Sat Jul 8 London UK Twickenham Stadium
Wed Jul 12 Berlin DE Olympic Stadium
Sat Jul 15 Rome IT Olympic Stadium
Tue Jul 18 Barcelona ES Olympic Stadium
Sat Jul 22 Dublin IE Croke Park
Tue Jul 25 Paris FR Stade De France
Sat Jul 29 Amsterdam NL Amsterdam Arena
Tue Aug 1 Brussels BE Stade Roi-Baudoin

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Sat Jul 8 London UK Twickenham Stadium
Wed Jul 12 Berlin DE Olympic Stadium
Sat Jul 15 Rome IT Olympic Stadium
Tue Jul 18 Barcelona ES Olympic Stadium
Sat Jul 22 Dublin IE Croke Park
Tue Jul 25 Paris FR Stade De France
Sat Jul 29 Amsterdam NL Amsterdam Arena
Tue Aug 1 Brussels BE Stade Roi-Baudoin

Times 2

You reckon they'll do 2 shows at each of these venues if demand is sufficient ? That's how they've done their tours in the past.

any word or help with the presale

I will be seeing them in Dallas

No Detroit show. May try to catch them at Soldier Field.