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It's still a bit over-compressed and "loud" in the mastering though.

With better judged mastering, the recording would have revealed much more light and shade with more natural dynamics. [i.e some softer bits between the loud bits ]

A BIT over-compressed??? It’s terrible. One of the worst sounding albums of good music of all time. An absolute shame. I stand by my theory that to the band members ears, after years of playing live on stage every night, that their ears are shot, and THEY think this type of mastering sounds not only right, but great. Dreadful. I love the album but can barely play it.

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It's still a bit over-compressed and "loud" in the mastering though.

With better judged mastering, the recording would have revealed much more light and shade with more natural dynamics. [i.e some softer bits between the loud bits ]

A BIT over-compressed??? It’s terrible. One of the worst sounding albums of good music of all time. An absolute shame. I stand by my theory that to the band members ears, after years of playing live on stage every night, that their ears are shot, and THEY think this type of mastering sounds not only right, but great. Dreadful. I love the album but can barely play it.

You're talking about the cd or digital download, I presume?

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It's still a bit over-compressed and "loud" in the mastering though.

With better judged mastering, the recording would have revealed much more light and shade with more natural dynamics. [i.e some softer bits between the loud bits ]

A BIT over-compressed??? It’s terrible. One of the worst sounding albums of good music of all time. An absolute shame. I stand by my theory that to the band members ears, after years of playing live on stage every night, that their ears are shot, and THEY think this type of mastering sounds not only right, but great. Dreadful. I love the album but can barely play it.

You're talking about the cd or digital download, I presume?

Both the CD and Vinyl. The vinyl sounds “clipped” and the CDs distorted. Which the vinyl is as well. Horrible sounding good music. Who’d a thunk The Stones could score that quinnela?

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It's still a bit over-compressed and "loud" in the mastering though.

With better judged mastering, the recording would have revealed much more light and shade with more natural dynamics. [i.e some softer bits between the loud bits ]

A BIT over-compressed??? It’s terrible. One of the worst sounding albums of good music of all time. An absolute shame. I stand by my theory that to the band members ears, after years of playing live on stage every night, that their ears are shot, and THEY think this type of mastering sounds not only right, but great. Dreadful. I love the album but can barely play it.

You're talking about the cd or digital download, I presume?

Both the CD and Vinyl. The vinyl sounds “clipped” and the CDs distorted. Which the vinyl is as well. Horrible sounding good music. Who’d a thunk The Stones could score that quinnela?

There is a big difference between the cd and the vinyl, imo. The latter is far more dynamic-sounding. Is it the best-sounding Stones-album ever? No. But put on ABB, and you'll find remarkable progress

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What album are you guys talking about here?

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I will lap up every single note, chord, riff and line of this new album. Beyond excited for it, it's been way too long. I LOVE latter-day Stones and consider albums like Babylon, Bang and Voodoo amongst their very best. If this is to be their final recorded output I expect it will be an album to treasure.

I wish I was like you, easily amused...........

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What album are you guys talking about here?

Blue & Lonesome - [iorr.org] .

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What album are you guys talking about here?

Blue & Lonesome - [iorr.org] .

Blue and Lonesome is fine. It might be the last great Stones album we get. It's certainly the last great, all Charlie album. (Unless they decide not to go with any SJ cuts on the new one. Which I doubt. I think they're making the point now that they've moved on into Post-Jones/Taylor/Wyman/Watts territory.)

I was looking at when this first post was made, December 2016. And we still don't have an album. I would say they're rushing it out for Christmas, (Which is why we haven't heard of any new Vault releases) but who knows. It's already November and they're not exactly speedy.

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Very difficult to know if they will release the new album for Christmas.

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What album are you guys talking about here?

Blue & Lonesome - [iorr.org] .

Blue and Lonesome is fine. It might be the last great Stones album we get. It's certainly the last great, all Charlie album. (Unless they decide not to go with any SJ cuts on the new one. Which I doubt. I think they're making the point now that they've moved on into Post-Jones/Taylor/Wyman/Watts territory.)

I was looking at when this first post was made, December 2016. And we still don't have an album. I would say they're rushing it out for Christmas, (Which is why we haven't heard of any new Vault releases) but who knows. It's already November and they're not exactly speedy.

Very difficult to know if they will release the new album for Christmas. There is always a danger the deluge of bilge that gets released this time of year may drown it at birth. Of course dyed-in-the-wool Stones fans will buy it. But that, on its own, will not guarantee any kind of extended chart life. Chances are it will sell enough copies (or downloads or streams) in its first week to get a high chart placing. Though whether it will reach No.1 is doubtful. I think it will make the top five but not reach the top. And it will sink out of sight on week two.

I was really disappointed by the weak showing made by Tattoo You. All of one week on the chart at No.7 and then nothing. Meanwhile Hot Rocks is still knocking about on the fringes of the UK Chart and is in and out of the US Top 200 at regular intervals, where it is now closing in on a 400 week overall chart score.

Shows that the big market out there is still for the warhorses...[/quote

They didn't market it the way they did Exile...I think that's a huge part of the difference. Same with Some Girls.

At least they had some great new songs and videos with the GHS extras, not sure how that sold in comparison. It matters to have the marketing in place when flogging repackaged catalogue albums...a killer single off the 'extras' album wouldn'ta hurt either!

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It's still a bit over-compressed and "loud" in the mastering though.

With better judged mastering, the recording would have revealed much more light and shade with more natural dynamics. [i.e some softer bits between the loud bits ]

A BIT over-compressed??? It’s terrible. One of the worst sounding albums of good music of all time. An absolute shame. I stand by my theory that to the band members ears, after years of playing live on stage every night, that their ears are shot, and THEY think this type of mastering sounds not only right, but great. Dreadful. I love the album but can barely play it.

You're talking about the cd or digital download, I presume?

Both the CD and Vinyl. The vinyl sounds “clipped” and the CDs distorted. Which the vinyl is as well. Horrible sounding good music. Who’d a thunk The Stones could score that quinnela?

There is a big difference between the cd and the vinyl, imo. The latter is far more dynamic-sounding. Is it the best-sounding Stones-album ever? No. But put on ABB, and you'll find remarkable progress

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Skippy, I haven't followed The Cult for decades, and my ability to judge their ups and downs is pretty limited, but I trust your word here. They have done a great job in terms of quality vs. quantity.

But the Stones too with their previous album. It was funny how short BLUE & LONESOME felt like when it was released. It was 'ouch, did it end already? Okay, I start from the beginning again'. Which I did, again and again. Funnily, as I know checked, it actually lasts over 40 minutes, a pretty normal lenght in the old days, but now like a 'mini album' ..

Anyway, I realised that I haven't had listened a brandnew album like that for ages. Not even the previous Stones albums. I still recall the first times listening especially VOODOO LOUNGE and A BIGGER BANG and after the first burst of novelty had gone, those albums started sound endless, and listening the whole thing started to be like a helluva job ('do this ever end?'). And after the last cut I felt like relieved and didn't feel like going back again at all. Since that it was just checking out some individual tracks.

As far as these recent Stones albums nowadays go, I don't listen them that often, but when I do, it is funny how many times I am surprised when I took a singular song out of its context: 'hmm, it wasn' t so indifferent at all. Actually it is pretty good'. But if I try to listen them more, even the whole album, I find myself being bored pretty quickly. But BLUE & LONESOME is different. When I listen it I almost always end up listening the whole album. It like asks listening the whole lot. The album flows so naturally, the songs are like supporting each other, and together they make a helluva musical statement. And it leaves you asking more...

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Skippy, I haven't followed The Cult for decades, and my ability to judge their ups and downs is pretty limited, but I trust your word here. They have done a great job in terms of quality vs. quantity.

But the Stones too with their previous album. It was funny how short BLUE & LONESOME felt like when it was released. It was 'ouch, did it end already? Okay, I start from the beginning again'. Which I did, again and again. Funnily, as I know checked, it actually lasts over 40 minutes, a pretty normal lenght in the old days, but now like a 'mini album' ..

Anyway, I realised that I haven't had listened a brandnew album like that for ages. Not even the previous Stones albums. I still recall the first times listening especially VOODOO LOUNGE and A BIGGER BANG and after the first burst of novelty had gone, those albums started sound endless, and listening the whole thing started to be like a helluva job ('do this ever end?'). And after the last cut I felt like relieved and didn't feel like going back again at all. Since that it was just checking out some individual tracks.

As far as these recent Stones albums nowadays go, I don't listen them that often, but when I do, it is funny how many times I am surprised when I took a singular song out of its context: 'hmm, it wasn' t so indifferent at all. Actually it is pretty good'. But if I try to listen them more, even the whole album, I find myself being bored pretty quickly. But BLUE & LONESOME is different. When I listen it I almost always end up listening the whole album. It like asks listening the whole lot. The album flows so naturally, the songs are like supporting each other, and together they make a helluva musical statement. And it leaves you asking more...

- Doxa

That's the beauty of a shorter ie regular length LP - forget format - quality! VOODOO is insanely long. So is BRIDGES and so is BANG. Slimmed down they make pretty damn good albums. Thank you playlists. None of those are as interesting or diverse as EXILE or THE WALL or THE BEATLES or PHYSICAL GRAFFITI in my mind. But it's beyond that point because the original intent of those double albums was more is great and that's not the case where as in the 1960s and 70s more was interesting, they were statements, not format driven.

BLUE, though, wow, that was a nice punch in the face.

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Skippy, I haven't followed The Cult for decades, and my ability to judge their ups and downs is pretty limited, but I trust your word here. They have done a great job in terms of quality vs. quantity.

But the Stones too with their previous album. It was funny how short BLUE & LONESOME felt like when it was released. It was 'ouch, did it end already? Okay, I start from the beginning again'. Which I did, again and again. Funnily, as I know checked, it actually lasts over 40 minutes, a pretty normal lenght in the old days, but now like a 'mini album' ..

Anyway, I realised that I haven't had listened a brandnew album like that for ages. Not even the previous Stones albums. I still recall the first times listening especially VOODOO LOUNGE and A BIGGER BANG and after the first burst of novelty had gone, those albums started sound endless, and listening the whole thing started to be like a helluva job ('do this ever end?'). And after the last cut I felt like relieved and didn't feel like going back again at all. Since that it was just checking out some individual tracks.

As far as these recent Stones albums nowadays go, I don't listen them that often, but when I do, it is funny how many times I am surprised when I took a singular song out of its context: 'hmm, it wasn' t so indifferent at all. Actually it is pretty good'. But if I try to listen them more, even the whole album, I find myself being bored pretty quickly. But BLUE & LONESOME is different. When I listen it I almost always end up listening the whole album. It like asks listening the whole lot. The album flows so naturally, the songs are like supporting each other, and together they make a helluva musical statement. And it leaves you asking more...

- Doxa

That's the beauty of a shorter ie regular length LP - forget format - quality! VOODOO is insanely long. So is BRIDGES and so is BANG. Slimmed down they make pretty damn good albums. Thank you playlists. None of those are as interesting or diverse as EXILE or THE WALL or THE BEATLES or PHYSICAL GRAFFITI in my mind. But it's beyond that point because the original intent of those double albums was more is great and that's not the case where as in the 1960s and 70s more was interesting, they were statements, not format driven.

BLUE, though, wow, that was a nice punch in the face.

However, we all know that there is no agreement about which songs could be left out in such a hypothetical case. And how much well-informed you are, GasLightStreet, I for one would not in any way have wanted you to make that choice. I am pretty certain that you would not have had me do that either, if you were made aware of my taste within Stones-related music.

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It's still a bit over-compressed and "loud" in the mastering though.

With better judged mastering, the recording would have revealed much more light and shade with more natural dynamics. [i.e some softer bits between the loud bits ]

A BIT over-compressed??? It’s terrible. One of the worst sounding albums of good music of all time. An absolute shame. I stand by my theory that to the band members ears, after years of playing live on stage every night, that their ears are shot, and THEY think this type of mastering sounds not only right, but great. Dreadful. I love the album but can barely play it.

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Anyone know who “Some Guy” is on RocksOff? Has over 15000 posts, so no fly by nighter

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Anyone know who “Some Guy” is on RocksOff?

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Bugga. I remember that. I bit on that too! Sorry guys

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Anyone know who “Some Guy” is on RocksOff? Has over 15000 posts, so no fly by nighter

But maybe a daydreamer: he predicted also a new Single for 14-Oct-2022 - [iorr.org] .

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Recording or overdubbing or have they proceeded to mixing???

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Recording or overdubbing or have they proceeded to mixing???

Ronnie said mid-October 2022: "We are going to LA in a few weeks to carry it on and finish it off" .... sounds rather like a recording-session in December.

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Don Was will play the last show of the wolf bros fall tour tonight in Denver so i guess he will later join them and they'll keep working to finish the new album next week too. We'll see

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Don Was will play the last show of the wolf bros fall tour tonight in Denver so i guess he will later join them and they'll keep working to finish the new album next week too. We'll see

It appears Don Was will continue to tour as part of 'The Last Waltz Tour 2022', through December 4. > Don Was.

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We'll see

Yep. I could imagine that "carry it on and finish it off" takes 4 weeks, for instance mid-November until mid-December.