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jlowe
Still not sure why no one seems to consider the option of say 7-8 originals and 3-4 covers for the next album.
Are The Stones and its core fans so conservative that they wouldn't accept that?
Eric Clapton has never been a prolific songwriter (though obviously put out more than Mick and Keith in the last 14 years). So he does a mix.
Doesn't lessen the overall feel and quality of the album at all. He even throws in some contemporary work rather than just sticking to blues standards.
Surely Muck and Keith can't be so obsessed with composer royalties after all this time.
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jlowe
Still not sure why no one seems to consider the option of say 7-8 originals and 3-4 covers for the next album.
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chatoyancy
Mr. Billen, I am a woman. The project is on Stones time, as they say. I'm very happy they are recording. I can't be objective about their music. I am too involved. On the other hand, I prefer Mick's powerful harmonica to his lightweight shmaltz, and I tell him so every chance I get. I've known them a long time. There's still a future. Time is on our side.
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Jane (...Hmmmmm? .. there is only one Jane I know from The Stones current camp). You have a way with words Ms. Chatoyancy. We may be on Stones time .. but The Stones are on borrowed time, Madam. We've heard about this album for three or four years and they have been working on it for three or four years .. Still no concrete news.
Would be nice if there was an indication on when they plan on releasing the puppy (from them .. not meaning you). Lots of touring .. lots of movie things .. etc. lots of everything over the last 15 years.. but not much focus on a new studio product of original material?
If they still want to have the title as a viable act .. and not pure nostalgia / Vegas style greatest hits touring outfit .. they should put out new, original music more versus three albums over the last 25 years (other older acts do) ... You seem to tell them a piece of your mind .. so if you feel like it .. you can tell them that and that 'we' said so ... With respect.
Respectfully Ian who is the “we” you reference, you and Hairball? On the other hand great to read chatoyancy’s album progression...
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Rockman
Oh dear Ian your faith is waning ……
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Ian Billen
I'm amazed at how many of us spoke against the Stones and criticized them for starting to become nothing more than a greatest hit's package and you're tying to imply it was only me and Hairball(?)
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Ian Billen
I'm amazed at how many of us spoke against the Stones and criticized them for starting to become nothing more than a greatest hit's package and you're tying to imply it was only me and Hairball(?)
Becoming? Don't fool yourself Ian - they've been a 'greatest hits package' for many years now in a live setting. I've not only learned to accept it, but have come to fully expect it. Yes they added a new blues cover to their set, and before that they played Doom and Gloom or One More Shot...and occasionally they'll throw in a 'rarity' like Dancing with Mr. D. (lol), but really...a majority of the setlists are 'greatest hits' that are decades old, and it's been that way for some time now. While a new album will be nice some day, I don't think it will change their 'greatest hits package' status as they would probably only play one tune from it anyways, or maybe two at the most. Even Mick has accepted the status and it's probably part of the reason he's in no hurry to release new Stones material - here's what he said back in 2013::
"It would be nice to have a new album, but people don't like the new album when you play it on stage.
They glumly look at you. OK, it will be over in a minute. It's not a good excuse, but it's the truth and has to be said".
Given the fact there's no new album before the upcoming tour - not even a new single - it will be more of the same nostalgia, ie a 'greatest hits package' give or take a blues cover and/or some 'rarity' ala Fool to Cry (lol).
But again, even if they had a new album, only one or maybe two new songs would be played from it. Best to accept it all, and enjoy it for what it is. Personally, I look forward to hearing some of those 'greatest hits' again, but would be thrilled if the setlists were made up of tunes they've never played - both new and old. But the reality is they have nothing left to prove and are basically resting on their laurels by basking in past glories and coasting to the delight of many in attendance. Some day they will put out a new album, but don't think that will have any impact on their status as a 'greatest hits package'.
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Oh dear Ian your faith is waning ……
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Ian Billen
I'm amazed at how many of us spoke against the Stones and criticized them for starting to become nothing more than a greatest hit's package and you're tying to imply it was only me and Hairball(?)
Becoming? Don't fool yourself Ian - they've been a 'greatest hits package' for many years now in a live setting. I've not only learned to accept it, but have come to fully expect it. Yes they added a new blues cover to their set, and before that they played Doom and Gloom or One More Shot...and occasionally they'll throw in a 'rarity' like Dancing with Mr. D. (lol), but really...a majority of the setlists are 'greatest hits' that are decades old, and it's been that way for some time now. While a new album will be nice some day, I don't think it will change their 'greatest hits package' status as they would probably only play one tune from it anyways, or maybe two at the most. Even Mick has accepted the status and it's probably part of the reason he's in no hurry to release new Stones material - here's what he said back in 2013::
"It would be nice to have a new album, but people don't like the new album when you play it on stage.
They glumly look at you. OK, it will be over in a minute. It's not a good excuse, but it's the truth and has to be said".
Given the fact there's no new album before the upcoming tour - not even a new single - it will be more of the same nostalgia, ie a 'greatest hits package' give or take a blues cover and/or some 'rarity' ala Fool to Cry (lol).
But again, even if they had a new album, only one or maybe two new songs would be played from it. Best to accept it all, and enjoy it for what it is. Personally, I look forward to hearing some of those 'greatest hits' again, but would be thrilled if the setlists were made up of tunes they've never played - both new and old. But the reality is they have nothing left to prove and are basically resting on their laurels by basking in past glories and coasting to the delight of many in attendance. Some day they will put out a new album, but don't think that will have any impact on their status as a 'greatest hits package'.
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I realize they have been on a warhorse / greatest hits package schmeil since 97 BUT with a new album and two new tunes per show .. I consider them playing new songs .. I'd be ok with that. A new album is all I want. Play a couple songs from it a show and to me .. for a 50 year old act with an unmatched catalog of several eras and many releases (and classics) ...that's perfectly understandable. I don't need them to necessarily play four songs from it a show .. two is ok .. AS long as we get a new album and a couple songs are included in the set. That is fine by me (considering who they are and the massive amount of their stuff ..and considering the 12-14 songs they almost HAVE to play every show).
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jlowe
Still not sure why no one seems to consider the option of say 7-8 originals and 3-4 covers for the next album.
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IanBillen
Until I hear a season (doesn't have to be a month) .. just a season and a year from them I will gripe.
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For over 300 pages you been carrying the torch, Ian. Don't give up now. You're like Ali at the '96 Olympics: battered, but proud, and ultimately in triumph, LOL. You will win in the end.
The only common denom-inator in this mountain. You might get a name who hangs with you for 50 pages or so, and then gives up. But like I said a while back: when the album finally does come out, it better read a "Thanks to Ian Billen" in those credits.
PS on a completely different note: why insist on chatoyancy's identity?
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jlowe
Still not sure why no one seems to consider the option of say 7-8 originals and 3-4 covers for the next album.
Are you sure it has never been considered here? I was pretty convinced we already had considered every possible option including its opposite.
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IanBillen
Until I hear a season (doesn't have to be a month) .. just a season and a year from them I will gripe.
Isn't that what's happening all the time anyway? It's always "next season next year" - than can be projected infinitely into the future ...
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runrudolph
Yeah i thought it was Jane. Maybe its one of Keefs daughters.
Does not matter really..or does it.
Jeroen
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runrudolph
Maybe about his upcoming marriage.
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Ian Billen
I don't see how Hairball can be ok with projecting a 2021-2022 release (and he is actually serious lol) .. and willing to be fine with it if need be. That's crazy. I tell ya ...He has the patience of a Saint ... bless his soul.
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rbp
They could play a couple of songs off the new album on tour even if they haven't been released yet. That would be cool and a big surprise for fans.
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CJFP
Ok, Keith just posted on his Instagram! He is in an apartment and out the window is what I think is LA!
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runrudolph
Maybe about his upcoming marriage.
Jeroen
Do you think a 75 year old man is going to show up @ church in a tuxedo?
Kids, work, legally binding papers,
He seems married already.
Off limits to me, anyhow don’t mind me slightly depressed, it’s my b-day think Eliz Jagger shares same one, just a gal thing.