If anything they’ll be well oiled for the tour...

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They are going into the studio next week,
Interview with Keith from last night ( he is in the UK )

From 1.40

[www.bbc.co.uk]

Many thanks Lien!!! Great news

A 1:50 about the sound of the new album Keith basically puts Don Was on the same level as Jimmy Miller, huh...worrying !

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A 1:50 about the sound of the new album Keith basically puts Don Was on the same level as Jimmy Miller, huh...worrying !

I thought he was talking about the sound of Blue and Lonesome...



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forthcoming....sounds like he's actually excited about what's coming up next week in the studio...cautiously optimistic is how I'd describe it...

Sounds good. Earlier than the 'late February' rumours then.
One assumes it's to work on the new album....and not some other project?

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A 1:50 about the sound of the new album Keith basically puts Don Was on the same level as Jimmy Miller, huh...worrying !

maybe Keef hit the bottle again and is getting things wrong???
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"I've heard snippets of the album, yes, it's amazing. It's different - I can't say different how, cause I wouldn't want to ruin it - but it's good"

That refers still to the pre-brickwall state I guess.

The brickwall remark from Don Was is a statement he made about the very first session for the album over three years ago. They ran through some of the new material and "hit a wall." Keith didn't like the sound of British Grove either or said so as an excuse for why it wasn't working. Keith suggested they play "Blue and Lonesome" and over several dates, the band cut the blues album from a list of songs Mick put together. That's it. The hitting a wall was just at the start. There have been so many sessions since then at British Grove, at Germano Studios, at Twin Studios, at various home studio sessions with multiple producers from Don Was to Steve Jordan to Carl Falk to Matt Clifford.

People can pay attention to the soundbites and believe it's been early days for three years now. You can believe Ronnie and Charlie don't have a clue what's going on with guys they tour with every year and attend business meetings with. Alternatively, you can look at the number of sessions and the producers involved and recognize they're either stockpiling tracks for future release or running over the same 20 songs in multiple arrangements and mixes until the stakeholders agree.

As for Keith's very coherent phone interview where he finally dropped the laughing pirate shtick, what I notice is the narrative now is that he and Mick wrote a bunch of songs in 2018 and the band is cutting them this coming week in London. No mention of BLUE AND LONESOME coming out of the sessions for the same album three years ago. The timeline has moved forward to what is considered reasonable.

Is it possible they'll claim they miraculously had the fastest Stones session in years and now have something to release before the tour? Sure. Could it turn into another remark during the tour that "it's a work-in-progress and we were in the studio before the tour and we'll go back after it finishes and we'll see what happens?" Also very probable. They know what they're doing. They're not going to tell us the whole truth and maybe not even most of the truth. That's their call. I'm just trying to do this jigsaw puzzle before it rains any more.

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Great piece, thanks Lien, and Shaun Keaveny did a good job.

By meeting in studios on a semi regular basis, it keeps these men in their 70’s tight connected nimble and ready. That’s why they still put on kick asss shows.

As for new recordings, oh I think there is some new treats, but mum is the word.
Cards are close to the chest.

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Great piece, thanks Lien, and Shaun Keaveny did a good job.

By meeting in studios on a semi regular basis, it keeps these men in their 70’s tight connected nimble and ready. That’s why they still put on kick asss shows.

As for new recordings, oh I think there is some new treats, but mum is the word.
Cards are close to the chest.

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"I've heard snippets of the album, yes, it's amazing. It's different - I can't say different how, cause I wouldn't want to ruin it - but it's good"

That refers still to the pre-brickwall state I guess.

The brickwall remark from Don Was is a statement he made about the very first session for the album over three years ago. They ran through some of the new material and "hit a wall." Keith didn't like the sound of British Grove either or said so as an excuse for why it wasn't working. Keith suggested they play "Blue and Lonesome" and over several dates, the band cut the blues album from a list of songs Mick put together. That's it. The hitting a wall was just at the start. There have been so many sessions since then at British Grove, at Germano Studios, at Twin Studios, at various home studio sessions with multiple producers from Don Was to Steve Jordan to Carl Falk to Matt Clifford.

People can pay attention to the soundbites and believe it's been early days for three years now. You can believe Ronnie and Charlie don't have a clue what's going on with guys they tour with every year and attend business meetings with. Alternatively, you can look at the number of sessions and the producers involved and recognize they're either stockpiling tracks for future release or running over the same 20 songs in multiple arrangements and mixes until the stakeholders agree.

As for Keith's very coherent phone interview where he finally dropped the laughing pirate shtick, what I notice is the narrative now is that he and Mick wrote a bunch of songs in 2018 and the band is cutting them this coming week in London. No mention of BLUE AND LONESOME coming out of the sessions for the same album three years ago. The timeline has moved forward to what is considered reasonable.

Is it possible they'll claim they miraculously had the fastest Stones session in years and now have something to release before the tour? Sure. Could it turn into another remark during the tour that "it's a work-in-progress and we were in the studio before the tour and we'll go back after it finishes and we'll see what happens?" Also very probable. They know what they're doing. They're not going to tell us the whole truth and maybe not even most of the truth. That's their call. I'm just trying to do this jigsaw puzzle before it rains any more.

3 years... maybe a total of 30 days when it's done. So yeah, "quick." 'Aighhh, right, mannnn, I mean, harrrrrgh, it took us a month of recording over three years to make this record, and we just keep getting better and better.'

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A 1:50 about the sound of the new album Keith basically puts Don Was on the same level as Jimmy Miller, huh...worrying !

No he didn't - he said in terms of almost being in the band and the comfort they have with him. He never compared him as a producer.

Gaslight, this insistence on being precise and logical is going to strip this site of its hysteria if you aren't careful.

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3 years... maybe a total of 30 days when it's done. So yeah, "quick." 'Aighhh, right, mannnn, I mean, harrrrrgh, it took us a month of recording over three years to make this record, and we just keep getting better and better.'

30 Days in the Hole....just not consecutive days...and with their back against the wall (or their heads banging against it)

Whatever the case, this latest news bodes well for the possibility of a new single prior to the tour.
If so, hopefully it's a decent tune and not something they choose because it has "hit single" written on it...thinking ABB with it's first single Streets of Love..aarrgghh...

Keith sounds happy and healthy - looking forward to Talk is Cheap Deluxe and the upcoming tour!

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gotdablouse
A 1:50 about the sound of the new album Keith basically puts Don Was on the same level as Jimmy Miller, huh...worrying !

maybe Keef hit the bottle again and is getting things wrong???
jeroen

Possibly as he also says at the beginning that when he started the Winos in 1987 it reminded him of when he'd started the Stones...15 years before ! Having said that he did sound better in that interview than he's sounded for years, decades even !

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3 years... maybe a total of 30 days when it's done. So yeah, "quick." 'Aighhh, right, mannnn, I mean, harrrrrgh, it took us a month of recording over three years to make this record, and we just keep getting better and better.'

30 Days in the Hole....just not consecutive days...and with their back against the wall (or their heads banging against it)

Whatever the case, this latest news bodes well for the possibility of a new single prior to the tour.
If so, hopefully it's a decent tune and not something they choose because it has "hit single" written on it...thinking ABB with it's first single Streets of Love..aarrgghh...

Keith sounds happy and healthy - looking forward to Talk is Cheap Deluxe and the upcoming tour!

Paul Macca's latest album was recorded over a 2 to 3 year period with 4 producers, I believe.
Seems strange to me...but if thats the way these guys want to work?
(He like The Stones probably pays for the recording costs, rather than the label.)
Whether it's a more creative way of working is a moot point.

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3 years... maybe a total of 30 days when it's done. So yeah, "quick." 'Aighhh, right, mannnn, I mean, harrrrrgh, it took us a month of recording over three years to make this record, and we just keep getting better and better.'

30 Days in the Hole....just not consecutive days...and with their back against the wall (or their heads banging against it)

Whatever the case, this latest news bodes well for the possibility of a new single prior to the tour.
If so, hopefully it's a decent tune and not something they choose because it has "hit single" written on it...thinking ABB with it's first single Streets of Love..aarrgghh...

Keith sounds happy and healthy - looking forward to Talk is Cheap Deluxe and the upcoming tour!

Paul Macca's latest album was recorded over a 2 to 3 year period with 4 producers, I believe.
Seems strange to me...but if thats the way these guys want to work?
(He like The Stones probably pays for the recording costs, rather than the label.)
Whether it's a more creative way of working is a moot point.

Yes seems a strange way to record an album - especially for a band (Mick and Keith writing and recording bits and pieces separately, etc.).
The actual credits for everyone involved will be like an encyclopedia.

As for Paul's latest, not sure the method worked well as the album received mixed reviews w/many of his fans dismissing it altogether.

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A 1:50 about the sound of the new album Keith basically puts Don Was on the same level as Jimmy Miller, huh...worrying !

maybe Keef hit the bottle again and is getting things wrong???
jeroen

Possibly as he also says at the beginning that when he started the Winos in 1987 it reminded him of when he'd started the Stones...15 years before ! Having said that he did sound better in that interview than he's sounded for years, decades even !

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Jeroen

"As for Keith's very coherent phone interview where he finally dropped the laughing pirate shtick."

Remarkably coherent. Also interesting that he's preparing for the recording session.

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Gaslight, this insistence on being precise and logical is going to strip this site of its hysteria if you aren't careful.

This is in no way a Def Leppard site.

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Lien
They are going into the studio next week,
Interview with Keith from last night ( he is in the UK )

From 1.40

[www.bbc.co.uk]

Thanks, Lien.

YEAH thanks Lien …… good ta hear … Thanks again...



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gotdablouse
A 1:50 about the sound of the new album Keith basically puts Don Was on the same level as Jimmy Miller, huh...worrying !

No he didn't - he said in terms of almost being in the band and the comfort they have with him. He never compared him as a producer.

Seems like as producer, “I feel with Don Was the way I felt with Jimmy Miller”.

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This is in no way a Def Leppard site.

Unless we look at the importance of Joe Elliott's cocaine use to the making of Ronnie's SLIDE ON THIS album.

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Sounds good. Earlier than the 'late February' rumours then.
One assumes it's to work on the new album....and not some other project?

The session was likely moved up because of Don Was' conflict with his upcoming tour dates.

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Possibly as he also says at the beginning that when he started the Winos in 1987 it reminded him of when he'd started the Stones...

Of course, only Waddy and the Winos name started in 1987. Steve Jordan, Charley Drayton, and Ivan Neville were The Biff Hilter (forgive my dyslexia, censorship does that to me) Trio during the DIRTY WORK sessions two years before that.

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Seems like as producer, “I feel with Don Was the way I felt with Jimmy Miller”.

Perhaps he was groping...

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Seems like as producer, “I feel with Don Was the way I felt with Jimmy Miller”.

Perhaps he was groping...

I thought of it more as standing by Don Was/ Keith feels loyal and respectful to him.

Coherent Keith... no pirate Keith in site... all good indications

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Seems like as producer, “I feel with Don Was the way I felt with Jimmy Miller”.

Perhaps he was groping...

I thought of it more as standing by Don Was/ Keith feels loyal and respectful to him.

I was just making a play on the word "feel." I know Don is very close with Keith and Keith has always been loyal to friends until he feels betrayed.