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Hairball
Maybe they could start selling updated empty covers for all of their albums.
$20 each - collect them all!
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VoodooLounge13
Laugh all ya want, I know there are completists on here who will buy this, and I’m just trying to figure out how to get it over to the States.
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Laugh all ya want, I know there are completists on here who will buy this, and I’m just trying to figure out how to get it over to the States.
Probably with the help of a Japanese proxy-buyer or the help of a Japanese RS-fan if the Japanese Universal-Music-Store doesn't sell it directly abroad.
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NilsHolgersson
Maybe they could make a movie out of it. The Stones trying to record their new album in an old mansion and then the souls of Anita and L'Wren and all the other deceased groupies start to haunt them
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Rocky Dijon
Less than six months ago Mick, Keith, Steve, and Matt were cutting tracks in Jamaica. In May, Keith stated, "We already had some stuff cut with Charlie. It should be coming next year." They had a wholly new single two years ago. They released an album's worth of outtakes last year much of which was reworked by Mick, Ronnie, and Matt. Yet still this thread is one big "they've hit a wall" because the nearly 80 year old men don't work hard enough to please us. IORRian logic, check your sanity at the door.
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MelBelli
At this point, they have become a way for Mick to stay busy with The Rolling Stones without having to deal with Keith.
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At this point, they have become a way for Mick to stay busy with The Rolling Stones without having to deal with Keith.
Agreed, so was Mick putting together his "highly polished demos" with Matt before bringing them to Keith. Most artists would be insulted to be given a paint by numbers set. Keith working with Steve to see what he can add to Mick and Matt's work isn't the most productive way to maintain a songwriting partnership but if Keith doesn't like many of Mick's songs and Keith's unfinished ideas don't spark anything in Mick, there isn't much they can do about it. It's been that way for much of the last forty years.
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MelBelli
At this point, they have become a way for Mick to stay busy with The Rolling Stones without having to deal with Keith.
Agreed, so was Mick putting together his "highly polished demos" with Matt before bringing them to Keith. Most artists would be insulted to be given a paint by numbers set. Keith working with Steve to see what he can add to Mick and Matt's work isn't the most productive way to maintain a songwriting partnership but if Keith doesn't like many of Mick's songs and Keith's unfinished ideas don't spark anything in Mick, there isn't much they can do about it. It's been that way for much of the last forty years.
...this is the real problem.
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MelBelli
At this point, they have become a way for Mick to stay busy with The Rolling Stones without having to deal with Keith.
Agreed, so was Mick putting together his "highly polished demos" with Matt before bringing them to Keith. Most artists would be insulted to be given a paint by numbers set. Keith working with Steve to see what he can add to Mick and Matt's work isn't the most productive way to maintain a songwriting partnership but if Keith doesn't like many of Mick's songs and Keith's unfinished ideas don't spark anything in Mick, there isn't much they can do about it. It's been that way for much of the last forty years.
...this is the real problem.
No, the "real problem" imo is the question how they can add anything substantial to their already existing extensive catalog when at the same time they must have realized that they don't really need new material to be a successful band.
Furthermore, I doubt that the lack of new music even constitutes "a real problem" for them, certainly not commercially, but likely not even mentally - it's just one for us diehards who can never be satisfied anyway - we grab one release and shortly thereafter thirst for the next one like junkies. Any new album wouldn't change this situation. We will grab the new album next year and shortly thereafter demand the next one.
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Rockman
How we know this ???????????
let us in on the loop .........
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MelBelli
At this point, they have become a way for Mick to stay busy with The Rolling Stones without having to deal with Keith.
Agreed, so was Mick putting together his "highly polished demos" with Matt before bringing them to Keith. Most artists would be insulted to be given a paint by numbers set. Keith working with Steve to see what he can add to Mick and Matt's work isn't the most productive way to maintain a songwriting partnership but if Keith doesn't like many of Mick's songs and Keith's unfinished ideas don't spark anything in Mick, there isn't much they can do about it. It's been that way for much of the last forty years.
...this is the real problem.
No, the "real problem" imo is the question how they can add anything substantial to their already existing extensive catalog when at the same time they must have realized that they don't really need new material to be a successful band.
Furthermore, I doubt that the lack of new music even constitutes "a real problem" for them, certainly not commercially, but likely not even mentally - it's just one for us diehards who can never be satisfied anyway - we grab one release and shortly thereafter thirst for the next one like junkies. Any new album wouldn't change this situation. We will grab the new album next year and shortly thereafter demand the next one.
They haven't added anything substantial to their catalog after TATTOO YOU when they signed with EMI and Columbia Records or their 1991-2005 EMI/Virgin Records deal (both consumed by UMG in 2012). Their UMG deal in 2008 included 3 new albums.
Apparently the 3 new albums of that deal were SHINE A LIGHT, BLUE AND LONESOME and MOCAMBO, all released on Polydor.
Then again, substantial is subjective, right? Not that the however many hits comps that have come out since REWIND determine what is substantial but one might say Harlem Shuffle, Mixed Emotions, Love Is Strong, Anybody Seen My Baby, Don't Stop, Rough Justice, Doom And Gloom, Just Your Fool and Living In A Ghost Town have been "substantial".
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GasLightStreet
Keith Richards (July 2016): Progress on a new Stones album
The Stones are working on one, yeah - at the moment, as we speak. We cut a few new things and we're going in (the studio) again later this year.
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"As we speak" has got to be the most ridiculous statement of the Twentyhundreds.
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MelBelli
At this point, they have become a way for Mick to stay busy with The Rolling Stones without having to deal with Keith.
Agreed, so was Mick putting together his "highly polished demos" with Matt before bringing them to Keith. Most artists would be insulted to be given a paint by numbers set. Keith working with Steve to see what he can add to Mick and Matt's work isn't the most productive way to maintain a songwriting partnership but if Keith doesn't like many of Mick's songs and Keith's unfinished ideas don't spark anything in Mick, there isn't much they can do about it. It's been that way for much of the last forty years.
...this is the real problem.
No, the "real problem" imo is the question how they can add anything substantial to their already existing extensive catalog when at the same time they must have realized that they don't really need new material to be a successful band.
Furthermore, I doubt that the lack of new music even constitutes "a real problem" for them, certainly not commercially, but likely not even mentally - it's just one for us diehards who can never be satisfied anyway - we grab one release and shortly thereafter thirst for the next one like junkies. Any new album wouldn't change this situation. We will grab the new album next year and shortly thereafter demand the next one.
They haven't added anything substantial to their catalog after TATTOO YOU when they signed with EMI and Columbia Records or their 1991-2005 EMI/Virgin Records deal (both consumed by UMG in 2012). Their UMG deal in 2008 included 3 new albums.
Apparently the 3 new albums of that deal were SHINE A LIGHT, BLUE AND LONESOME and MOCAMBO, all released on Polydor.
Then again, substantial is subjective, right? Not that the however many hits comps that have come out since REWIND determine what is substantial but one might say Harlem Shuffle, Mixed Emotions, Love Is Strong, Anybody Seen My Baby, Don't Stop, Rough Justice, Doom And Gloom, Just Your Fool and Living In A Ghost Town have been "substantial".
Of course, substantial is subjective. I for one would include some songs from your list, but not all, for sure not Don't Stop or Rough Justice which sound like poor rehashes of old glory, nice, but without the edge of past efforts. For me, also things like Continental Drift, Out Of Control, Saint Of Me, Laugh I Nearly Died and others are substantial additions to their catalog. Certain songs, but almost no complete albums since Tattoo You.
For them, it's probably the question of "what could we do what we haven't done already - and, in particular, what we haven't done already much better in the past?" on the background that they don't need new material to be commercially (tremendously!) successful, that there's no contractual pressure whatsoever to deliver new material, that they're old and have lots of other things to do than hanging around in the studio for days and nights just to wait for the arrival of the "perfect riff", that they've got nothing left to prove anyway and, last, but not least, no matter how good the new material would turn out, financial returns would be minimal compared to their other streams of income, in particular live shows.
With all this in mind, it's a miracle that they try at all - and I understand Jagger perfectly well when he says that for their last album, good is just not good enough this time, he wants it to be great.
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GasLightStreet
There's next to zero money made on streaming and buying records via download. It's a horrendous model that somehow continues to thrive. It hasn't hit the movie industry near any way similar.
Yet.
However, Netflix is dying. They've done it to themselves. Too many other options and less interest in general.
The record industry? BUY THIS BOX SET AND GET A FREE STICKER! VINYL!
Short investment for a short time return at the highest value that has nothing to do with artist legacy, just the product of the moment.
How long is a piece of string? How many artists can fill 5000+ venues?
We are witnessing the end of an era regarding album releases and tours by acts that have huge attendance.
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There's next to zero money made on streaming and buying records via download.
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We are witnessing the end of an era regarding album releases and tours by acts that have huge attendance.