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KRiffhard
2016
[www.list.co.uk]
Tyrone Wood said: "I've heard snippets of the album, yes, it's amazing. It's different - I can't say different how, cause I wouldn't want to ruin it - but it's good."
"It was just before Christmas that we started doing a new album. Then we went and did shows in South America, so we're still very much on. I can't say much but there are a lot of different things on this album" MJ
"That’s in the can – although it might be a surprise to people, and I can’t say any more than that right now" KR
It seems to me that in 2016 this new album was basically ready.
Then who knows what happened.
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Hairball
"If we go out on tour, we gotta do a record. It shows you are an actual functioning rock band.
I don't want to be one of those bands that just does hits".
- Mick Jagger, 2005
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Irix
From [www.RollingStone.de] :
Keith Richards played a lot of bass for new Stones songs
Editors · 16.03.2022
The Rolling Stones guitarist Keith Richards and frontman Mick Jagger recently announced that they were working on new material for the band. Now Richards has revealed that he played a lot of bass on the new songs.
A week in Jamaica had been so good for their songwriting that Richards isn't even sure how many songs were even written during the trip: "More than I can count, it was a productive week," said the band's guitarist - and, as of late, bassist.
Richard's switch to bass gave the Rolling Stones' sound "another side". He himself was very positive about it and reported that the material sounded "quite interesting and at the same time typical Stones".
Jamaica as inspiration for the Rolling Stones
The two 78-year-olds have since agreed that Jamaica is "good for the sound". The Stones' album "Goat Head Soup", which the band recorded on the Caribbean island between 1972 and 1973, also speaks for this.
The guitarist also told the Daily Star that he was looking forward to finally going on a European tour soon. "It has to be once a year - there's just nothing that comes close to that feeling of being on stage," Richards said.
Steve Jordan, who will join the tour on drums following the death of drummer Charlie Watts, has also contributed to the band's new material. Richards revealed that it was eight or nine tracks that were co-written with Jordan. "The new dynamics created by Steve's addition are going to be exciting," he said. The tempo of the trio's songwriting was already "overwhelming": otherwise it wouldn't happen so quickly, he said.
[www.RollingStone.de]
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ProfessorWolf
co-written with Jordan?
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retired_dog
Keith on bass, Mick on guitar - looks like an early songwriting/demo session for the next album after the new album...
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GerardHennessy
Why is expecting transparency ridiculous? That is a really unnecessary put-down of a fellow Stones fan.
My remark above has nothing to do with my fellow Stones fans and everything to do with the band and the media. You weren't targeted. It was about an attitude a great many people here express. That fact that I don't agree in this instance doesn't make it a put-down or make me right and someone else wrong. It means I have a different opinion. If you agree, great. If you don't, that's fine, too. It was meant as a different point of view, not a condemnation or ruling.
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HotStuff92
I can't understand the need to be so overly critical of a 60-year old band of 80-year old men not being as productive as they once were. They were at a respectable retirement age when they released (and toured behind) A Bigger Bang, and yet they still continue to at least tour and put out a very occasional single every once in awhile. They don't owe anyone anything, and if they are more interested in touring and celebrating their legacy in what is clearly the twilight of their career, they've more than earned the right to do so.
It's no secret that Mick and Keith don't see eye-to-eye on a creative level, and haven't for a very long time. I suspect there can still be quite a bit of tension, which was more than implied by the "hitting a wall" quote from a few years back. I can certainly understand wanting to avoid that kind of stress, especially at this point in their lives, which is why I feel comparisons to other more productive artists from their era to be faulty. A new Rolling Stones album is not the same as a new album by Neil Young, McCartney, Dylan, etc. I find it unlikely that anyone recording with these artists are going to have any opposition to the songs being recorded. Meanwhile with the Stones, if Mick has a new song idea that Keith doesn't like, it's unlikely to go anywhere (and vice-versa).
Not to mention, a new Rolling Stones album is not going to be a very big deal in the grand scheme of things. They are not culturally relevant, and that applies to all artists from the classic rock era, even the highly prolific ones like Neil Young. Only die-hards and maybe general classic rock fans will take notice of a new release by a legacy artist. As far as relatively recent releases by legacy artists go, I feel Dylan's Rough And Rowdy Ways and Springsteen's Western Stars are about the only albums that can hold any candle to their classic material. But these albums only cater to a diminishing audience of already established fans; if any new or younger fans want to look into these artists, they are more likely to check out Blonde On Blonde or Born to Run on Spotify (or a greatest hits playlist) than seek out the newer material. And while the argument certainly exists that the Stones are artists, and they should create for the sake of it, regardless of how much it will sell...I think you'd have to be pretty delusional to think this isn't a contributing factor to why new music isn't their top priority. Regardless of how good (or bad) a new album could be, it won't add (or detract) from their legacy in the slightest.
All that being said, I definitely understand the frustration of being dragged along for a few years now, regarding new material. But most complaints and criticisms just seem silly and unfounded to me. Plus I have a suspicion that many of the people who are so worked up about the lack of new music, likely also think the Stones haven't put out a good album since Tattoo You. And when/if a new album finally gets released these people are inevitably going to hate it anyway...
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GerardHennessy
Well, I certainly am NOT one of those who think The Stones have done nothing good, album-wise, since Tattoo You. While some albums have not been as good as others, every one of them has had at least 2-3 good tracks that I go back to again and again. And a number have been way better than that. I really like Blue & Lonesome, A Bigger Bang and Bridges to Babylon. Steel Wheels has its moments, Voodoo Lounge likewise. And Dirty Work is my secret guilty pleasure.
I have never been critical of the band for not bringing out a new album. You are quite right. It probably would not sell especially well, would be criticised and condescended to in the press, and may well be far more bother than its worth to the band themselves. My moan, and its a small one in truth, is that I wish they would stop hinting and insinuating that a new album is on the way.
Call me old. Call me foolish. Call me idiotic. But I get excited, despite my best efforts, when I keep hearing snippets, and whispers about something stirring out there. If it is not going to happen, then just put those of us who care out of our misery. And in my case, get back to my vast collection of Stones recordings, official and unofficial, and stop daydreaming about one last, glorious hurrah!
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24FPS
That 2016 album was great. Their best since Exile.
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retired_dog
Keith on bass, Mick on guitar - looks like an early songwriting/demo session for the next album after the new album...
Hehe, so there's the new album, the shelved album before the new album, and then the album after the new album ... sounds like an interesting agenda ... (or inter-resting?)
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ukcal
No mention of Don Was - thank god. Maybe Steve Jordan can do what Ronnie did on Some girls!! Steve did co-write and produce a couple of Robert Cray albums, with Cray saying Steve made him work hard to produce great songs.
Now I'm expecting Talk is Cheap 2 with MJ on Lead vocals
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Exclusive: Stones Plan to Record With New Drummer Steve Jordan
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bye bye johnny
Exclusive: Stones Plan to Record With New Drummer Steve Jordan
Exclusive by the Rolling Stone ? From [VirginRadio.co.uk] , [www.Music-News.com] - 16-Mar-2022 - [iorr.org] :
"The band have been recording with touring drummer Steve Jordan. Richards said: It’ll be interesting to find out the dynamics now that Steve’s in the band. It’s sort of metamorphosing into something else. I was working with Mick last week, and Steve, and we came up with some, eight or nine new pieces of material."