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Keith's comment to Mojo about the new album...same old, same old !
The whole page 23 with Keith in Mojo 5-2022:
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Rocky Dijon
I share the frustration of many. Mick and Keith are almost 80 years old. They tour almost every year. They should spend 3-4 months straight in the studio for 12 hours or more a day 5 or 6 days a week like they used to. There's no excuse for very old men who could have retired 15 years ago to not be more productive. They're just plain lazy. I'm going to post variations on this until I get what I want and then when I do get it, I won't like it.
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gotdablouse
Keith's comment to Mojo about the new album...same old, same old
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NilsHolgersson
So it's in early stages
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gotdablouse
Keith's comment to Mojo about the new album...same old, same old
Same with Uncut magazine (May 2022):
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gotdablouse
Keith's comment to Mojo about the new album...same old, same old !
You can't force magic. That's why some albums are good and some are bad. You don't just turn on song writing and turn it off... Maybe they don't have anything left.Quote
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gotdablouse
Keith's comment to Mojo about the new album...same old, same old
Same with Uncut magazine (May 2022):
They make is sound so hard. What else do they have to do? How long can it take? You've either got some good songs to finish up or you don't. I'm beginning to think they don't want to. Making an album seems onerous to them. Frankly I think they're a little frightened to tarnish their reputation at this point. Maybe they can no longer pull it off as a group. They're old men trying to make young men music. Easy Sleazy is the kind of high energy song they can't do anymore. It's okay. Only us old time idiots are pining for a new disc/cd/download, whatever tech they've invented, by the time a new Stones album drops.
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drwattsYou can't force magic. That's why some albums are good and some are bad. You don't just turn on song writing and turn it off... Maybe they don't have anything left.Quote
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gotdablouse
Keith's comment to Mojo about the new album...same old, same old
Same with Uncut magazine (May 2022):
They make is sound so hard. What else do they have to do? How long can it take? You've either got some good songs to finish up or you don't. I'm beginning to think they don't want to. Making an album seems onerous to them. Frankly I think they're a little frightened to tarnish their reputation at this point. Maybe they can no longer pull it off as a group. They're old men trying to make young men music. Easy Sleazy is the kind of high energy song they can't do anymore. It's okay. Only us old time idiots are pining for a new disc/cd/download, whatever tech they've invented, by the time a new Stones album drops.
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Hairball
Go back to your little cave drunk little man.
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Hairball
Long live the *Stones.
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georgelicks
At this rate, they should release a new compilation, SIXTY, with their Top 57-58 streaming songs and a couple of new songs to play something new on tour, at least they can cash in with it.
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KRiffhard
The Jamaican sessions give some hope...but who knows if one day we'll know what really happened with the new material, from the famous "hit a wall" sessions to now.
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Rocky Dijon
The mention of a new album in the press isn't to frustrate diehard fans who buy every release. It's to help generate a buzz for a reissue or a tour or simply maintain public awareness of the band.
Can you imagine them answering the inevitable question with "we tried, but couldn't agree on the material" or "we decided it wasn't up to the standard we wanted" or "we just don't really feel motivated to treat it as anything but a hobby." They can't do that.
Expecting transparency is ridiculous. They're speaking to the press as they've always done as a means to an end. Reality is they sporadically release new material. The days of being an active recording artist ended with A BIGGER BANG as their Universal contract indicates. Expecting something other than what is contractual to their label is unrealistic. We get the occasional album when and if they feel like it and the label agrees. The actual contract is for reissues and archival material. New studio recordings, if any, are bonus only.
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Keith's comment to Mojo about the new album...same old, same old
Same with Uncut magazine (May 2022):
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GerardHennessy
Why is expecting transparency ridiculous? That is a really unnecessary put-down of a fellow Stones fan.
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Rocky Dijon
The mention of a new album in the press isn't to frustrate diehard fans who buy every release. It's to help generate a buzz for a reissue or a tour or simply maintain public awareness of the band.
Can you imagine them answering the inevitable question with "we tried, but couldn't agree on the material" or "we decided it wasn't up to the standard we wanted" or "we just don't really feel motivated to treat it as anything but a hobby." They can't do that.
Expecting transparency is ridiculous. They're speaking to the press as they've always done as a means to an end. Reality is they sporadically release new material. The days of being an active recording artist ended with A BIGGER BANG as their Universal contract indicates. Expecting something other than what is contractual to their label is unrealistic. We get the occasional album when and if they feel like it and the label agrees. The actual contract is for reissues and archival material. New studio recordings, if any, are bonus only.
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Rocky Dijon
The mention of a new album in the press isn't to frustrate diehard fans who buy every release. It's to help generate a buzz for a reissue or a tour or simply maintain public awareness of the band.
Can you imagine them answering the inevitable question with "we tried, but couldn't agree on the material" or "we decided it wasn't up to the standard we wanted" or "we just don't really feel motivated to treat it as anything but a hobby." They can't do that.
Expecting transparency is ridiculous. They're speaking to the press as they've always done as a means to an end. Reality is they sporadically release new material. The days of being an active recording artist ended with A BIGGER BANG as their Universal contract indicates. Expecting something other than what is contractual to their label is unrealistic. We get the occasional album when and if they feel like it and the label agrees. The actual contract is for reissues and archival material. New studio recordings, if any, are bonus only.
Why is expecting transparency ridiculous? That is a really unnecessary put-down of a fellow Stones fan.
Just to emphasise - I am NOT expecting a new album. And made that point quite clearly. Rather I'm saying they might cease to hint at an album that, in all probability will never emerge. Why tease us with it? Why keep dangling the faint possibility in front of us? Lets face it. They don't need to produce an album to sell tickets. On the contrary the booming ticket sales for their shows prove that few of those who attend have any interest in a new album, Or indeed any album, apart, possibly, from Hot Rocks.
And, if they are asked about new material they do not need to make apocalyptic statements like 'We tried and failed' or 'It just ain't there anymore' in order to answer honestly. They could quite easily speak very constructively about releasing something from the vaults. Perhaps supplemented with a new single. There is an entire organisation working for them that specialises in communicating with the masses. And there are numerous ways in which a truthful answer could be presented constructively, and in a manner that reflects positively on the band.
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Doxa
But why should they say anything else than what they have done? They are making an album, and no matter how zillion years it would take, they are doing it. A work in process, so to say. Like Rocky Dijon, and many else, have pointed out, the significance of new music is pretty irrelevant to the act like the Stones. They really do need to release anything in order to be The Rolling Stones. It is not 20th Century any longer. For some fans it looks like that is pretty hard to understand that (they want the band to be like they were in their youth, and like nothing has really changed). The world, and the Stones with it, has changed, my friends. And we all get old, you know.
- Doxa
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Rocky Dijon
One of the great mysteries of this site is why people can't agree to disagree. Hairball (for instance) expresses himself and people are up in arms and call him negative or a troll. He's neither, he's just opinionated and not afraid to go against the crowd. If he has the time and desire to restate the same opinions all day long, that's his business. I offer my two cents and someone whose posts I enjoy reading thinks I'm putting him down because we don't agree. Doxa says what he thinks and gets told if he feels that way, he should ask Bjornulf to close the thread. Why is everyone so thin-skinned? It's a board for fans to express opinions. It's not a matter of belonging to one camp or another.