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In Germany and Austria it's somewhere between 50% and 60%, according to TV and newspaper reports.
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Too much danger that a new virus strain will come along and all big events will have to be cancelled within a few days.
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ribbelchips
They started playing old blues songs (which led to B&L) because they kind of had a writers-block, right? So I think the quality of the songs they wrote or recorded just don't meet their own standards. They are well aware of the fact that this album probably will be there last and with ABB being nearly 17 years old, so they likely will feel the pressure of releasing a good album. The last thing we (and they) want is an album filled with songs like England's Lost or Gotta get a Grip, for sure. So they take the time to finetune it.. but Charlies death surely was a reality check that when you're almost 80 years old, Time is not on your side anymore...
I don't expect that much anymore. If they really did have some great songs, they woud've released 'em like they did with Ghost Town or Doom & Gloom. I do expect some kind of 60 anniversary release in 2022. Maybe a 40 licks kinda release with their 682nd greatest hits compilation, along with a bonus disc with the new material. Consisting of 7-8 songs. Not enough for a real album...
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They started playing old blues songs (which led to B&L) because they kind of had a writers-block, right? So I think the quality of the songs they wrote or recorded just don't meet their own standards. They are well aware of the fact that this album probably will be there last and with ABB being nearly 17 years old, so they likely will feel the pressure of releasing a good album. The last thing we (and they) want is an album filled with songs like England's Lost or Gotta get a Grip, for sure. So they take the time to finetune it.. but Charlies death surely was a reality check that when you're almost 80 years old, Time is not on your side anymore...
I don't expect that much anymore. If they really did have some great songs, they woud've released 'em like they did with Ghost Town or Doom & Gloom. I do expect some kind of 60 anniversary release in 2022. Maybe a 40 licks kinda release with their 682nd greatest hits compilation, along with a bonus disc with the new material. Consisting of 7-8 songs. Not enough for a real album...
They've all been pretty much saying the same thing since 2016, which consists of "We've got 6 or 7 new songs", "We're writing new songs", then "It's still way early" and "It sounds really good but there's a long way to go". Just lip service to whoever asks.
At one point, and I can't locate it, Mick did say that the new LP they're working on will be the last one.
If it's between 7 and 9 songs and just over 30 minutes long, cool. If it's between 9 and 12 and just under 45 minutes long, cool. If it's over that... ehhhh, those days are over.
If they indeed finish it and include Living In A Ghost Town on it... that just says everything left off is crap.
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ribbelchips
They started playing old blues songs (which led to B&L) because they kind of had a writers-block, right? So I think the quality of the songs they wrote or recorded just don't meet their own standards. They are well aware of the fact that this album probably will be there last and with ABB being nearly 17 years old, so they likely will feel the pressure of releasing a good album. The last thing we (and they) want is an album filled with songs like England's Lost or Gotta get a Grip, for sure. So they take the time to finetune it.. but Charlies death surely was a reality check that when you're almost 80 years old, Time is not on your side anymore...
I don't expect that much anymore. If they really did have some great songs, they woud've released 'em like they did with Ghost Town or Doom & Gloom. I do expect some kind of 60 anniversary release in 2022. Maybe a 40 licks kinda release with their 682nd greatest hits compilation, along with a bonus disc with the new material. Consisting of 7-8 songs. Not enough for a real album...
They've all been pretty much saying the same thing since 2016, which consists of "We've got 6 or 7 new songs", "We're writing new songs", then "It's still way early" and "It sounds really good but there's a long way to go". Just lip service to whoever asks.
At one point, and I can't locate it, Mick did say that the new LP they're working on will be the last one.
If it's between 7 and 9 songs and just over 30 minutes long, cool. If it's between 9 and 12 and just under 45 minutes long, cool. If it's over that... ehhhh, those days are over.
If they indeed finish it and include Living In A Ghost Town on it... that just says everything left off is crap.
Not necessarily. It might mean that left out material simply does not suit the included songs, even if it is as good.
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ribbelchips
They started playing old blues songs (which led to B&L) because they kind of had a writers-block, right? So I think the quality of the songs they wrote or recorded just don't meet their own standards. They are well aware of the fact that this album probably will be there last and with ABB being nearly 17 years old, so they likely will feel the pressure of releasing a good album. The last thing we (and they) want is an album filled with songs like England's Lost or Gotta get a Grip, for sure. So they take the time to finetune it.. but Charlies death surely was a reality check that when you're almost 80 years old, Time is not on your side anymore...
I don't expect that much anymore. If they really did have some great songs, they woud've released 'em like they did with Ghost Town or Doom & Gloom. I do expect some kind of 60 anniversary release in 2022. Maybe a 40 licks kinda release with their 682nd greatest hits compilation, along with a bonus disc with the new material. Consisting of 7-8 songs. Not enough for a real album...
They've all been pretty much saying the same thing since 2016, which consists of "We've got 6 or 7 new songs", "We're writing new songs", then "It's still way early" and "It sounds really good but there's a long way to go". Just lip service to whoever asks.
At one point, and I can't locate it, Mick did say that the new LP they're working on will be the last one.
If it's between 7 and 9 songs and just over 30 minutes long, cool. If it's between 9 and 12 and just under 45 minutes long, cool. If it's over that... ehhhh, those days are over.
If they indeed finish it and include Living In A Ghost Town on it... that just says everything left off is crap.
Not necessarily. It might mean that left out material simply does not suit the included songs, even if it is as good.
They've kind of done that before. Arguably some of the VOODOO B-sides were better than some LP tracks. But, as we know, musically some better tunes were left off VOODOO compared to what made the LP. Totally subjective, of course.
Through The Lonely Nights... even Everything Is Turning To Gold.
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I don’t see why you can’t release whatever you have done, and fill it out with a few rock & blues covers to honor their influences. Would any fan complain about a 10 song album? Most fans are used to downloading songs these days.
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ribbelchips
They started playing old blues songs (which led to B&L) because they kind of had a writers-block, right? So I think the quality of the songs they wrote or recorded just don't meet their own standards. They are well aware of the fact that this album probably will be there last and with ABB being nearly 17 years old, so they likely will feel the pressure of releasing a good album. The last thing we (and they) want is an album filled with songs like England's Lost or Gotta get a Grip, for sure. So they take the time to finetune it.. but Charlies death surely was a reality check that when you're almost 80 years old, Time is not on your side anymore...
I don't expect that much anymore. If they really did have some great songs, they woud've released 'em like they did with Ghost Town or Doom & Gloom. I do expect some kind of 60 anniversary release in 2022. Maybe a 40 licks kinda release with their 682nd greatest hits compilation, along with a bonus disc with the new material. Consisting of 7-8 songs. Not enough for a real album...
They've all been pretty much saying the same thing since 2016, which consists of "We've got 6 or 7 new songs", "We're writing new songs", then "It's still way early" and "It sounds really good but there's a long way to go". Just lip service to whoever asks.
At one point, and I can't locate it, Mick did say that the new LP they're working on will be the last one.
If it's between 7 and 9 songs and just over 30 minutes long, cool. If it's between 9 and 12 and just under 45 minutes long, cool. If it's over that... ehhhh, those days are over.
If they indeed finish it and include Living In A Ghost Town on it... that just says everything left off is crap.
Not necessarily. It might mean that left out material simply does not suit the included songs, even if it is as good.
They've kind of done that before. Arguably some of the VOODOO B-sides were better than some LP tracks. But, as we know, musically some better tunes were left off VOODOO compared to what made the LP. Totally subjective, of course.
Through The Lonely Nights... even Everything Is Turning To Gold.
If the Stones really manage to finish and release one album more, meant as their great final studio album, according to stated ambition, the existence of other songs maybe as good or almost as good, but that have been left out in that manner, somehow might lead to the release of another studio album later on.
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They started playing old blues songs (which led to B&L) because they kind of had a writers-block, right? So I think the quality of the songs they wrote or recorded just don't meet their own standards. They are well aware of the fact that this album probably will be there last and with ABB being nearly 17 years old, so they likely will feel the pressure of releasing a good album. The last thing we (and they) want is an album filled with songs like England's Lost or Gotta get a Grip, for sure. So they take the time to finetune it.. but Charlies death surely was a reality check that when you're almost 80 years old, Time is not on your side anymore...
I don't expect that much anymore. If they really did have some great songs, they woud've released 'em like they did with Ghost Town or Doom & Gloom. I do expect some kind of 60 anniversary release in 2022. Maybe a 40 licks kinda release with their 682nd greatest hits compilation, along with a bonus disc with the new material. Consisting of 7-8 songs. Not enough for a real album...
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ribbelchips
They started playing old blues songs (which led to B&L) because they kind of had a writers-block, right? So I think the quality of the songs they wrote or recorded just don't meet their own standards. They are well aware of the fact that this album probably will be there last and with ABB being nearly 17 years old, so they likely will feel the pressure of releasing a good album. The last thing we (and they) want is an album filled with songs like England's Lost or Gotta get a Grip, for sure. So they take the time to finetune it.. but Charlies death surely was a reality check that when you're almost 80 years old, Time is not on your side anymore...
I don't expect that much anymore. If they really did have some great songs, they woud've released 'em like they did with Ghost Town or Doom & Gloom. I do expect some kind of 60 anniversary release in 2022. Maybe a 40 licks kinda release with their 682nd greatest hits compilation, along with a bonus disc with the new material. Consisting of 7-8 songs. Not enough for a real album...
There is no pressure. They could release an album of them farting for an hour and it wont taint their legacy one bit. They're almost 80. No one in their right mind expects a great album from anyone at that age.
They could also release the best album of their career and hardly anyone will care about it a month later.
The days of a Rolling Stones album being a major cultural event ended decades ago. Rock 'n' roll is an irrelevance in 2021.
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ribbelchips
Mick is a perfectionist. I doubt he will release a Rolling Stones album that does not meet certain self-imposed quality standards. You may be nearly 80 years old and the range of your voice may have decreased or you aren't able to play certain guitar solo's anymore because of arthritis, your ears and a lifelong experience in the industry will tell you if a record is good or if it's crap. So year, there is some pressure. Maybe not from a record company or from newspapers and pop-magazines anymore, but I'm pretty sure the boys will put pressure on themselves..
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They started playing old blues songs (which led to B&L) because they kind of had a writers-block, right? So I think the quality of the songs they wrote or recorded just don't meet their own standards. They are well aware of the fact that this album probably will be there last and with ABB being nearly 17 years old, so they likely will feel the pressure of releasing a good album. The last thing we (and they) want is an album filled with songs like England's Lost or Gotta get a Grip, for sure. So they take the time to finetune it.. but Charlies death surely was a reality check that when you're almost 80 years old, Time is not on your side anymore...
I don't expect that much anymore. If they really did have some great songs, they woud've released 'em like they did with Ghost Town or Doom & Gloom. I do expect some kind of 60 anniversary release in 2022. Maybe a 40 licks kinda release with their 682nd greatest hits compilation, along with a bonus disc with the new material. Consisting of 7-8 songs. Not enough for a real album...
There is no pressure. They could release an album of them farting for an hour and it wont taint their legacy one bit. They're almost 80. No one in their right mind expects a great album from anyone at that age.
They could also release the best album of their career and hardly anyone will care about it a month later.
The days of a Rolling Stones album being a major cultural event ended decades ago. Rock 'n' roll is an irrelevance in 2021.
that is so true and to me it is obvious that all this caution (compared with prolific acts the almost/same age like neil young or bob dylan) comes also from the fact that they are the first to believe in this illusion: the relevance of a new rock and roll album, of a new rolling stones album
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...we'll see, in 2026
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Doxa
Another option is an old romantic notion that 'to be an artist one should create something just for the sake of it', but I don't think the Stones have ever been pure artists in that romantic sense (unlike, say, people like Dylan, Young, Cohen, etc. are more like - the people they've been compared from time to time here). They've always been pretty pragmatic: whatever they do it must mean something, to have impact, some sort of relevance, a function. They don't do that to please their muse, but they do it for the people. Like they are not inspired to play on clubs or ballrooms for a handful of people, they are not inspired create music that people don't listen to (that pragmatically is meaningless).
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Gazza
The band has three songwriters. they've been working on this record for over 6 years. And have released one album of new material in the last 24. Or, if you like, 22 new songs in all of that time.
Thats not being a 'perfectionist' as there is no precedence for them taking ridiculous amounts of time to finish a record before. Its a reflection of having a lack of inspiration.
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I am not that firm that they believe on any illusion. I think their obvious non-interest or lack of inspiration derives from the knowledge that whatever the album will be like - masterpiece or pure crap - it will not have any relevance or impact (like Gazza described). Probably they have realized this ages ago. Another option is an old romantic notion that 'to be an artist one should create something just for the sake of it', but I don't think the Stones have ever been pure artists in that romantic sense (unlike, say, people like Dylan, Young, Cohen, etc. are more like - the people they've been compared from time to time here). They've always been pretty pragmatic: whatever they do it must mean something, to have impact, some sort of relevance, a function. They don't do that to please their muse, but they do it for the people. Like they are not inspired to play on clubs or ballrooms for a handful of people, they are not inspired create music that people don't listen to (that pragmatically is meaningless).
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They started playing old blues songs (which led to B&L) because they kind of had a writers-block, right? So I think the quality of the songs they wrote or recorded just don't meet their own standards. They are well aware of the fact that this album probably will be there last and with ABB being nearly 17 years old, so they likely will feel the pressure of releasing a good album. The last thing we (and they) want is an album filled with songs like England's Lost or Gotta get a Grip, for sure. So they take the time to finetune it.. but Charlies death surely was a reality check that when you're almost 80 years old, Time is not on your side anymore...
I don't expect that much anymore. If they really did have some great songs, they woud've released 'em like they did with Ghost Town or Doom & Gloom. I do expect some kind of 60 anniversary release in 2022. Maybe a 40 licks kinda release with their 682nd greatest hits compilation, along with a bonus disc with the new material. Consisting of 7-8 songs. Not enough for a real album...
There is no pressure. They could release an album of them farting for an hour and it wont taint their legacy one bit. They're almost 80. No one in their right mind expects a great album from anyone at that age.
They could also release the best album of their career and hardly anyone will care about it a month later.
The days of a Rolling Stones album being a major cultural event ended decades ago. Rock 'n' roll is an irrelevance in 2021.
that is so true and to me it is obvious that all this caution (compared with prolific acts the almost/same age like neil young or bob dylan) comes also from the fact that they are the first to believe in this illusion: the relevance of a new rock and roll album, of a new rolling stones album
I am not that firm that they believe on any illusion. I think their obvious non-interest or lack of inspiration derives from the knowledge that whatever the album will be like - masterpiece or pure crap - it will not have any relevance or impact (like Gazza described). Probably they have realized this ages ago. Another option is an old romantic notion that 'to be an artist one should create something just for the sake of it', but I don't think the Stones have ever been pure artists in that romantic sense (unlike, say, people like Dylan, Young, Cohen, etc. are more like - the people they've been compared from time to time here). They've always been pretty pragmatic: whatever they do it must mean something, to have impact, some sort of relevance, a function. They don't do that to please their muse, but they do it for the people. Like they are not inspired to play on clubs or ballrooms for a handful of people, they are not inspired create music that people don't listen to (that pragmatically is meaningless).
- Doxa
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I think their obvious non-interest or lack of inspiration derives from the knowledge that whatever the album will be like - masterpiece or pure crap - it will not have any relevance or impact (like Gazza described). Probably they have realized this ages ago.
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The band has three songwriters.