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I just had a crazy idea for the new album, which, presumably, will be their last. They went back to their roots with B&L, so why don’t they go back again and this time have Loog produce the album!?!???! He can do one of his famous write ups to accompany it and have them stretch themselves in a way that isn’t Rubin-esque.

Thoughts??

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VoodooLounge13
I just had a crazy idea for the new album, which, presumably, will be their last. They went back to their roots with B&L, so why don’t they go back again and this time have Loog produce the album!?!???! He can do one of his famous write ups to accompany it and have them stretch themselves in a way that isn’t Rubin-esque.

Thoughts??

That's interesting.

However, seeing that it will be their last new LP, based on Mick, if Daniel Lanois were to work with the Stones, the new LP wouldn't be ready for another 10 years.

And that's a more likely case than them working with Loog again.

But one never knows, right?

Eh... we do know, actually, and it's only Don Was. Afterall, seeing that's he's produced their previous 4 studio albums, why change now, even after 28 years (recording time)?

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doitywoik
One way to honour Charlie's legacy would be for them to seriously think about finally releasing at least some songs from the new album sessions. These were possibly the last sessions he played on, the last gifts he had for us.

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doitywoik
One way to honour Charlie's legacy would be for them to seriously think about finally releasing at least some songs from the new album sessions. These were possibly the last sessions he played on, the last gifts he had for us.

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Bungo
I'm sure no one will believe this but I'm gonna lay it out there anyway :

Last week I was sipping Tequila at the pool in Hotel California in Todos Santos Mexico when a chap sat down near me and with little else to do we started chatting. Long story short it turns out he is close to the recording process of the new Stones record (engineer or studio technician or something) and he goes in to saying how incredible the new songs are, "classic drug fueled Stones" I believe he described them, "right up there with Sticky Fingers or Exile". He also mentioned something about Keith not letting Mick inject any of his silly "techno pop rubbish" onto what may very well be their last studio effort.

Anyway, make of it what you will,even though some good Mexican blow, weed and Tequila were present during the conversation.

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doitywoik
One way to honour Charlie's legacy would be for them to seriously think about finally releasing at least some songs from the new album sessions. These were possibly the last sessions he played on, the last gifts he had for us.

I was thinking about that today. Regardless of if they record new songs with Jordan to add to it, if they even need to, it would be great if they released whatever they have. As originally intended.

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Bungo
I'm sure no one will believe this but I'm gonna lay it out there anyway :

Last week I was sipping Tequila at the pool in Hotel California in Todos Santos Mexico when a chap sat down near me and with little else to do we started chatting. Long story short it turns out he is close to the recording process of the new Stones record (engineer or studio technician or something) and he goes in to saying how incredible the new songs are, "classic drug fueled Stones" I believe he described them, "right up there with Sticky Fingers or Exile". He also mentioned something about Keith not letting Mick inject any of his silly "techno pop rubbish" onto what may very well be their last studio effort.

Anyway, make of it what you will,even though some good Mexican blow, weed and Tequila were present during the conversation.

This is still my prefer post about the new album

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ribbelchips

Does Charlie actually play on Ghost Town, by the way? It sounds more like a drum computer

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ribbelchips
"classic drug fueled Stones", "right up there with Sticky Fingers or Exile" and "Make it a double album release, consisting of one record with and another record without the said "silly" "techno pop rubbish"

And then you releas "Ghost Town" as the first single? Doesn't make any sense.

Does Charlie actually play on Ghost Town, by the way? It sounds more like a drum computer[/quote]

It seems a programmed drum machine.

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KRiffhard
About 300 pages ago a double album was about to be released! Then the new album was done. Then 6/7 new songs were done. Then they had "half an album of new material". Then Mick made 40 demos and Keef some "dynamite riffs". Then they "hit the wall". Then they wanted only great stuff...but 'Living in a Ghost Town' it's only a decent Mick's solo song.
Then...what happened to the new album?!!

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KRiffhard
About 300 pages ago a double album was about to be released! Then the new album was done. Then 6/7 new songs were done. Then they had "half an album of new material". Then Mick made 40 demos and Keef some "dynamite riffs". Then they "hit the wall". Then they wanted only great stuff...but 'Living in a Ghost Town' it's only a decent Mick's solo song.
Then...what happened to the new album?!!

The double album was new songs plus BLUE AND LONESOME. They broke BLUE AND LONESOME out because the new material wasn't ready. In all likelihood that last bit was rubbish. For over 20 years, Mick has come to sessions with fully-developed demos he prepares with Matt Clifford. The issue would really be Keith didn't like a lot of Mick's songs (Gotta Get a Grip, England Lost) and Mick didn't like Keith's riffs and unfinished ideas. Bringing in Steve Jordan over the past few years gives Keith someone to develop songs with and, surprisingly, Mick was sometimes present at the sessions with Steve at Germano. They're both at a point where they rely on other partners (Matt and Steve, respectively) to bring their ideas to fruition. Ronnie, who can generally be counted on to be the most honest to the press, mentioned giving them sufficient time to get their Glimmer Twins thing back. They have worked together, certainly. At some point it became apparent they would definitely never do another album other than this one (though posthumous releases are likely in the hands of Universal and Don Was). The original goal of 2016 became 2017, then 2018, 2019, and now hopefully 2022. It was to be called NO FILTER but that may be scrapped. If they're ready to finally let go, and I can't imagine losing Charlie and the pending 60th Anniversary won't be enough of an impetus, we should see some sort of release next year. It won't be everything. It won't live up to our unrealistic expectations though many will declare it is a return to form and that they think it is a classic for at least the first few months. At the end of the day, it's The Last Time as a playing band. Everything else will be more reheated leftovers.

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KRiffhard
About 300 pages ago a double album was about to be released! Then the new album was done. Then 6/7 new songs were done. Then they had "half an album of new material". Then Mick made 40 demos and Keef some "dynamite riffs". Then they "hit the wall". Then they wanted only great stuff...but 'Living in a Ghost Town' it's only a decent Mick's solo song.
Then...what happened to the new album?!!

The double album was new songs plus BLUE AND LONESOME. They broke BLUE AND LONESOME out because the new material wasn't ready. In all likelihood that last bit was rubbish. For over 20 years, Mick has come to sessions with fully-developed demos he prepares with Matt Clifford. The issue would really be Keith didn't like a lot of Mick's songs (Gotta Get a Grip, England Lost) and Mick didn't like Keith's riffs and unfinished ideas. Bringing in Steve Jordan over the past few years gives Keith someone to develop songs with and, surprisingly, Mick was sometimes present at the sessions with Steve at Germano. They're both at a point where they rely on other partners (Matt and Steve, respectively) to bring their ideas to fruition. Ronnie, who can generally be counted on to be the most honest to the press, mentioned giving them sufficient time to get their Glimmer Twins thing back. They have worked together, certainly. At some point it became apparent they would definitely never do another album other than this one (though posthumous releases are likely in the hands of Universal and Don Was). The original goal of 2016 became 2017, then 2018, 2019, and now hopefully 2022. It was to be called NO FILTER but that may be scrapped. If they're ready to finally let go, and I can't imagine losing Charlie and the pending 60th Anniversary won't be enough of an impetus, we should see some sort of release next year. It won't be everything. It won't live up to our unrealistic expectations though many will declare it is a return to form and that they think it is a classic for at least the first few months. At the end of the day, it's The Last Time as a playing band. Everything else will be more reheated leftovers.

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wonderboy
Interesting point about the songwriting credits.