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Since the age question is a recurring theme here, let’s see what other active musicians in their age group made of lockdown, e.g. John McLaughlin, who at 79,5 years is a tad older than your average Stone. Johnny Mac just released a new album, “Liberation Time”, recorded long-distance during lockdown with various other musicians, and not his worst. JMac says (liner notes), “By the end of September 2020, I like so many millions of people, had become deeply frustrated (…) The result of this frustration was an explosion of music in my mind, which lead to this recording.”

McLaughlin, at 80, has certainly done and achieved enough in his musical life to call it a day, but here’s an active and creative musician who still has it in him, so why would he stop? And mind you, his previous album was released only in 2020, not much more than a year ago.

In other terms, being around or close to 80 in itself is not a reason for not recording new music. Of course you can be a productive electric musician even at that age, and even put out good records.

Thus, as far as it concerns the boys’ age I see no reason to doubt they could record (or finish) another album, and even a reasonable one. Let’s just hope that MailOnline article is based on actual information and not just perpetuating the usual chatter.

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doitywoik
Since the age question is a recurring theme here, let’s see what other active musicians in their age group made of lockdown, e.g. John McLaughlin, who at 79,5 years is a tad older than your average Stone. Johnny Mac just released a new album, “Liberation Time”, recorded long-distance during lockdown with various other musicians, and not his worst. JMac says (liner notes), “By the end of September 2020, I like so many millions of people, had become deeply frustrated (…) The result of this frustration was an explosion of music in my mind, which lead to this recording.”

McLaughlin, at 80, has certainly done and achieved enough in his musical life to call it a day, but here’s an active and creative musician who still has it in him, so why would he stop? And mind you, his previous album was released only in 2020, not much more than a year ago.

In other terms, being around or close to 80 in itself is not a reason for not recording new music. Of course you can be a productive electric musician even at that age, and even put out good records.

Thus, as far as it concerns the boys’ age I see no reason to doubt they could record (or finish) another album, and even a reasonable one. Let’s just hope that MailOnline article is based on actual information and not just perpetuating the usual chatter.

Fair play to John McLaughlin. And he is not alone in putting out material in his 80's. John Mayall has also been producing material beyond that milestone. John Lee Hooker produced some of his best work at that age as well. And there are more.

I am not advancing age alone as a reason for not producing material. There is overall health. There is the critical scrutiny that anything the band produces will be subjected to. There is the need to get all four members together in some way - even electronically. There are probably differing perspectives on what should and should not be included. And there are the workloads that Mick, Keith and Ronnie particularly, are carrying. I suggest they are all even busier than those we are comparing them to.

But I'm not wanting to be dismissive of any counter arguments here. And the blunt truth is that neither I, nor anyone else, really knows what the obstacles are. I must also confess to being protective of the band. Throughout my entire life they have provided the soundtrack to everything. I was eleven when I first heard the swaggering impertinence of All Over Now and I was instantly hooked. I'm now almost 60 years older, not an awful lot wiser, but still dancing to The Stones in my head.

I will always be grateful for that. Every single day!

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The whole DailyMail article (8-Jul-2021, 21:29 BST) -- [iorr.org] :


Mick Jagger broke lockdown rules to watch England game at Wembley after flying in from France

Rolling Stones frontman Mick Jagger flouted lockdown rules after jetting in from France to watch England's Euro 2020 semi-final win over Denmark. The legendary singer, 77, landed on Tuesday and is legally required to quarantine for ten days having arrived from a country on the UK's Amber list. However, Mick was snapped at Wembley just 24 hours later joining 60,000 football fans last night to watch the Three Lions secure their place in Sunday's final. He could face a fine of up to £10,000 for breaking the UK's Covid rules.

A source close to the singer told MailOnline Mick had planned his visit to London for weeks to finish off the new Stones' album but he couldn't ignore the opportunity to watch England's most important football match in recent history – despite the controversy it may cause. The source said: 'Mick is a huge football fan and just wanted to be at Wembley. He had Covid tests before his flight and on arrival, plus after the game so he believed he was being careful in that respect.'

'Mick was always due in London around this time to work on the new Stones album, it just happened to clash with the fact England had such a big game on – and he just couldn't miss it.' Mick was snapped wearing a black facemask arriving at his VIP box at Wembley. Several fans stopped him for autographs as he made his way to his private section, which he had booked out, unbeknown he failed to quarantine upon his arrival to the UK. MailOnline have contacted his representatives for comment.

Mick has properties in London, New York, Mustique and the Loire Valley in central France, where he lives for the majority of the year. He's owned the 16th century castle called La Fourchette, located in a tiny village called Poce-sur-Cisse, for nearly 30 years, having splashed out £2.2million for it. A keen fitness fan, he goes for mounting biking nearby and also fishes on the banks of the Loire river. He shares the property with ballerina girlfriend Melanie Hamrick, 34, and their four-year-old son Deveraux.

Mick could have cut his quarantine requirement in half by taking part in the Test to Release scheme, which ends on Day 5 should a paid-for private Covid-19 test come back negative. But the lure of watching the Three Lions in such a vital game appeared too much of a temptation. Mick regularly watches football wherever he is based, especially England and his beloved Arsenal. The source added: 'Whether he's on a tour bus or in a hotel, Mick ensures satellite dishes are erected so he can see all the games. He rarely misses an Arsenal match, no matter how inconsistent they are.'

The Rolling Stones are currently finishing off their latest album in London, which is set to be released later this year. Mick is working on material with band-mates Ronnie Wood, 74, and Charlie Watts, 80, in the UK, while Keith Richards, 77, contributes from his home in the US. They are also planning to release another album of remastered 'basement tracks' never previously released from around the time of their Tattoo You 1981 release.

The band's sold out tour of America is currently waiting to be rescheduled after Covid-19 forced the 15 dates to be postponed -- [www.DailyMail.co.uk] .

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that article says ''in london FINISHING the new stones album planned to be released by the end of this year" AND that Mick is working on ''basement tracks from the Tattoo You era"

If the Daily Mail says it's true, then by all means it must be true!

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that article says ''in london FINISHING the new stones album planned to be released by the end of this year" AND that Mick is working on ''basement tracks from the Tattoo You era"

If the Daily Mail says it's true, then by all means it must be true!

What cracks me up is that Tattoo you was released in 1981......but was a composite of mid-70's recordings.......so what era are we really talking about?

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Since the age question is a recurring theme here, let’s see what other active musicians in their age group made of lockdown, e.g. John McLaughlin, who at 79,5 years is a tad older than your average Stone. Johnny Mac just released a new album, “Liberation Time”, recorded long-distance during lockdown with various other musicians, and not his worst. JMac says (liner notes), “By the end of September 2020, I like so many millions of people, had become deeply frustrated (…) The result of this frustration was an explosion of music in my mind, which lead to this recording.”

McLaughlin, at 80, has certainly done and achieved enough in his musical life to call it a day, but here’s an active and creative musician who still has it in him, so why would he stop? And mind you, his previous album was released only in 2020, not much more than a year ago.

In other terms, being around or close to 80 in itself is not a reason for not recording new music. Of course you can be a productive electric musician even at that age, and even put out good records.

Thus, as far as it concerns the boys’ age I see no reason to doubt they could record (or finish) another album, and even a reasonable one. Let’s just hope that MailOnline article is based on actual information and not just perpetuating the usual chatter.

Fair play to John McLaughlin. And he is not alone in putting out material in his 80's. John Mayall has also been producing material beyond that milestone. John Lee Hooker produced some of his best work at that age as well. And there are more.

I am not advancing age alone as a reason for not producing material. There is overall health. There is the critical scrutiny that anything the band produces will be subjected to. There is the need to get all four members together in some way - even electronically. There are probably differing perspectives on what should and should not be included. And there are the workloads that Mick, Keith and Ronnie particularly, are carrying. I suggest they are all even busier than those we are comparing them to.

But I'm not wanting to be dismissive of any counter arguments here. And the blunt truth is that neither I, nor anyone else, really knows what the obstacles are. I must also confess to being protective of the band. Throughout my entire life they have provided the soundtrack to everything. I was eleven when I first heard the swaggering impertinence of All Over Now and I was instantly hooked. I'm now almost 60 years older, not an awful lot wiser, but still dancing to The Stones in my head.

I will always be grateful for that. Every single day!

The difference between an 80 year old artist assembling a band of young musicians and recording a album, or going on the road, and putting this band of 80 or almost year old musicians back together is blindingly obvious, isn't it?

That neil Young or Dylan or Mclaughlin or Mccartney can do those things has nothing to do with the Stones, does it?

Solo artist. Band. Two different things.

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Hey guys so apparently the Stones plan to get together by August 14th [iorr.org]
Does anyone think if this date is for studio work or rehearsals for the Tour?

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Hey guys so apparently the Stones plan to get together by August 14th [iorr.org]
Does anyone think if this date is for studio work or rehearsals for the Tour?

Tattoo You Deluxe edition is the Stones release for 2021 in October, that's confirmed in Universal.

No word for the new album this year, no way they would release both things in less than 3 months.

The August 14th date is for rehearsals, the band must be very rusty after 2 years off the road.

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New Studio-Album & Tour of Europe would be the best presents for their 60th Anniversary in 2022.

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New Studio-Album & Tour of Europe would be the best presents for their 60th Anniversary in 2022.

Woah! Yay. I'm with you on this one!!

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With sales these days why not a new album this year being released before XMAS if it’s done? Tattoo reissue even if really good will be a distant memory by November. Next year they’ll bombard us I bet with Exile’s 50th and another greatest hits package.

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New Studio-Album & Tour of Europe would be the best presents for their 60th Anniversary in 2022.

Woah! Yay. I'm with you on this one!!

Yes!

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With sales these days why not a new album this year being released before XMAS if it’s done? Tattoo reissue even if really good will be a distant memory by November. Next year they’ll bombard us I bet with Exile’s 50th and another greatest hits package.

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O speculation yet on how many songs might be on the new album. Living In A Ghost Town would be one cut, no?

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O speculation yet on how many songs might be on the new album. Living In A Ghost Town would be one cut, no?

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Let's not forget the 60th Anniversary Compilation!!! 60 tracks of Greatest Hits. "Last Licks"

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Let's not forget the 60th Anniversary Compilation!!! 60 tracks of Greatest Hits. "Last Licks"

Let's forget the 60th Anniversary Compilation!!! 60 tracks of Greatest Hits. "Last Licks"