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peoplewitheyes
Is it right that Keith urged Mick to put out LIAGT?
I thought Mick called all the shots, and that his cards were on the table?
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Father Ted
Is it worth the effort now to produce a new album when the likelihood is that only one new song will be played live, sporadically, on the next tour before disappearing into the waste bin of forgotten tracks?
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retired_dog
what Dylan, Young, Springsteen do (in fact releasing albums that in reality don't add much to what they already did during their heydays and consequently get usually forgotten shortly after their release dates)...
Yep - and that includes the Stones, though sadly it's been 15 years since they released an album of originals that really didn't add much to what they did in their heyday, and most have forgotten about - including many fans.
It would be easier to understand the lack of creativity/productivity if they didn't continuously talk about releasing a new album during interviews, yet this thread clearly shows they've been talking about it for years now.
But the other bands and artists who actually do release new music on a a regular basis usually DON'T talk about it in every interview they give while misleading their fans in the process - that's the difference.
Action speaks louder than words, and talk is cheap indeed. Again, maybe with the positive reception to Ghost Town, they'll possibly get a bit more motivated and release another new and original single.
No matter how good or bad it could be, it's gotta better time spent than doctoring up forgotten/throwaway junk like Scarlett and All the Rage - both completely useless in the big picture.
Maybe it's because they're constantly getting asked about new material? In this business you rarely get brutally honest answers like "Look, we're happy that we're still able to do shows, and successful ones at that, but new material? No, there's little inspiration whatsoever because there's not much we could add to what we've already done! Too much effort for just too little revenue. And for the shows we don't need new material anyway because there's more than enough stuff we could play from our back catalog!"
But apparently they have recorded at least something over the course of the past years. How much really, remains to be seen. I'd say their 60th Anniversary is the date to look forward to.
To think they're all basically lying to the press whenever they've been asked about a new album sounds a bit cynical, though I suppose there could be some truth to that.
But then there's all the documented time they've actually spent in a studio working on the new album - either all together, or alone as Keith was just doing. Seems for the past five years or so, the goal has been to finish a new album just as they've been saying in all the interviews - Charlie actually thought it should have been finished a long time ago saying "where's the new album"?. They even squeezed out an entire album of blues covers in order to clean the slate and start fresh! Yet for some reason they can't get it done. Mick has now become a "perfectionist" for some oddball reason, but the troubles, delays, and detours started way back when they hit the wall. Then there were disagreements over song selection (Getta Grip). Then Universal called all of the material "uneven". Then it was back to the old drawing board. It's all here in this lengthy thread! But you're saying this is all a charade they've been putting on, even twisting the truth when talking to the press? Remember - they've spent loads of time in the studio over the last five or so years, and the only reason for doing that would be to complete and release a new album - just as they've been saying all along. Through all of this turmoil though, they were miraculously able to release Ghost Town thanks to Keith's urging and insistence, so maybe that's a hint towards the future...more singles sporadically released on a whim. `Not sure what will happen for the 60th anniversary, but not gonna hold my breath for a new album - a new single will do, and maybe a re-release of another old album.
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retired_dog
But still, people like you take everything they say, every interview quote that's appearing along the line all too literally and start pages-long discussions as if everything they say is a god-like announcement, apparently in particular quotes from Keith
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Irix
The new Stones Studio-Album: "The perfect collection of 10 Tracks"
Don Was (1-Aug-2019): “We continue to start songs and it’s such a varied group of songs. We probably have 40 and depending on the 10 we choose to finish, the character of the album will be determined; right now, it could go any way. And there’s some really good stuff in there. And there’s a sense that making a ‘good album’ is not good enough - it’s gotta be great. So, I think when we feel we’ve got 10 things that are great an album will come out.” -- [iorr.org]
Mick (23-Apr-2020): “Long time ago. Last original Stones. Yeah, it was so long. And I think one of the problems I personally have with it is that it’s suddenly that you want it to be really good. So I don’t just want it to be a good album, I want it to be great. You know? Yes, I’m very hard on myself. If I write something or if I write something with Keith Richards or whatever, it’s going to be great. It can’t just be good." -- [iorr.org] .
Keith (11-Nov-2020): "Mick and I fling a few ideas across the Atlantic, occasionally. Apart from that, I did get one session in with Don Was to do some overdubs about three weeks ago. It was a daring adventure, going into the city. But we’re stuck halfway through. We’ve got maybe five, six tracks. One of which was “Living in a Ghost Town”. -- [iorr.org]
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Gazza
It seems to be going backwards.
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CousinC
I wonder about the stuff recorded after ABB.
Didn't Charlie say he thought the album was ready years ago?
Seems they started all over again.
But there has to be some more material in the can.
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Gazza
It seems to be going backwards.
Looks like from the 40 Tracks since 2012 currently are only 5 Tracks 'usable' for the new, 'great' Studio-Album of 10 Tracks. That's why Keith says: "We’re stuck halfway through".
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Rockman
They roll in an orbit of their own ....
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But still, people like you take everything they say, every interview quote that's appearing along the line all too literally and start pages-long discussions as if everything they say is a god-like announcement, apparently in particular quotes from Keith
This is simply untrue - I've called Keith out many times for talking bullshit...
"Album sounds great"...."coming along nicely"...."working on it"..."ready next year maybe"..."we're just getting started"..."I've written thousands of tunes"... "we have four or five completed"...or "six or seven"...
But aside from those twisted truths, the gist of it all is that they continuously claim to be working on a new album.
In an interview published just last week Keith mentioned going at it alone w/Don Was for overdubs, calling it a "daring adventure...going into the city"...was this also a fabrication?
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Rockman
relax ... It's The Rolling Stones .....
They've always done things their way .....
They roll in an orbit of their own ....
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DiegoGlimmerStones
Anyone knows how many sessions Stones have done since Dec 2015?
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GasLightStreet
BLUE AND BLACK, 10 track LP.
Or: The Rolling Stones No. 3, 10 track LP.
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Hairball
In reality, it's more like they've mastered the art of procrastinating....
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DiegoGlimmerStones
Anyone knows how many sessions Stones have done since Dec 2015?
See Martin Elliott's [StonesSessions.com] - (Appendix Session List).